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  1. Yoshistar888

    Yoshistar888 Well-Known Member

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    Since I’m too lazy to do my own work I copied Chiliadonis work and modified it so it shows what I’ve seen. Sorry in advance.

    Bold for wild animals
    Underline for captive animals
    Bold and underline for both


    Order Monotremata (monotremes)
    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Order Cingulata (armadillos)
    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Order Primates (primates)
    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    [Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)]
    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Order Cetacea (whales)


    Order Monotremata (monotremes)
    Family Ornithorhynchidae (Platypus)
    Family Tachyglossidae (echidnas)


    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Family Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)

    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Family Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)

    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Family Didelphidae (American opossums)

    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Family Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)

    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Family Myrmecobiidae (Numbat)
    Family Dasyuridae (dasyurids)

    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Family Thylacomyidae (Bilby)
    Family Peramelidae (bandicoots)

    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Family Phascolarctidae (Koala)
    Family Vombatidae (wombats)
    Family Phalangeridae (brushtail possums and cuscuses)
    Family Burramyidae (pigmy possums)
    Family Pseudocheiridae (ringtail possums)
    Family Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)
    Family Acrobatidae (feathertail gliders)
    Family Tarsipedidae (Honey Possum)
    Family Hypsiprymnodontidae (Musky Rat Kangaroo)
    Family Potoroidae (rat kangaroos)
    Family Macropodidae (kangaroos, wallabies)

    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Family Tenrecidae (tenrecs)
    Family Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
    Family Chrysochloridae (golden moles)

    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Family Macroscelididae (elephant shrews)

    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Family Orycteropodidae (Aardvark)

    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Family Elephantidae (elephants)

    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Family Dugongidae (Dugong)
    Family Trichechidae (manatees)

    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Family Procaviidae (hyraxes)

    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Family Bradypodidae (three-toed sloths)
    Family Megalonychidae (two-toed sloths)
    Family Myrmecophagidae (anteaters)
    Family Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)

    Order Cingulata (armadillos)
    Family Dasypodidae (armadillos)

    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Family Cynocephalidae (colugos)

    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Family Tupaiidae (tree shrews)
    Family Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)

    Order Primates (primates)
    Family Cheirogaleidae (dwarf lemurs, mouse lemurs)
    Family Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
    Family Lemuridae (lemurs)
    Family Lepilemuridae (sportive lemurs)
    Family Indriidae (woolly lemurs, sifakas)
    Family Lorisidae (lorises)
    Family Galagidae (bushbabies)
    Family Tarsiidae (tarsiers)
    Family Callitrichidae (marmosets, tamarins)
    Family Cebidae (capuchins, squirrel monkeys)
    Family Aotidae (douroucoulis)
    Family Pitheciidae (titis, uakaris, sakis)
    Family Atelidae (howlers, spider monkeys, woolly monkeys)
    Family Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
    Family Hylobatidae (gibbons)
    Family Hominidae (apes)


    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Family Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
    Family Sciuridae (squirrels)
    Family Gliridae (dormice)
    Family Anomaluridae (anomalures)
    Family Pedetidae (springhaas)
    Family Castoridae (beavers)
    Family Geomyidae (pocket gophers)
    Family Heteromyidae (kangaroo rats, pocket mice)
    Family Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
    Family Ctenodactylidae (gundis)
    Family Bathyergidae (blesmols)
    Family Hystricidae (Old World porcupines)
    Family Petromuridae (Dassie Rat)
    Family Thryonomyidae (cane rats)
    Family Erethizontidae (New World porcupines)
    Family Chinchillidae (chinchillas, viscachas)
    Family Dinomyidae (Pacarana)
    Family Caviidae (cavies) (do domestic guinea pigs count?)
    Family Dasyproctidae (agoutis)
    Family Cuniculidae (pacas)
    Family Ctenomyidae (tuco-tucos)
    Family Octodontidae (octodonts)
    Family Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
    Family Echimyidae (New World spiny rats)
    Family Myocastoridae (Coypu)
    Family Capromyidae (hutias)
    Family Dipodidae (jerboas, jumping mice)
    Family Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
    Family Spalacidae (bamboo rats, mole rats)
    Family Calomyscidae (mouse-like hamsters)
    Family Nesomyidae (Madagascan and African rats and mice)
    Family Cricetidae (voles, hamsters, New World rats and mice)
    Family Muridae (Old World rats and mice)

    I don’t know where to place naked mole rat

    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Family Ochotonidae (pikas)
    Family Leporidae (rabbits) (do domestic rabbits count)

    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Family Erinaceidae (hedgehogs, gymnures)

    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Family Solenodontidae (solenodons)
    Family Soricidae (shrews)
    Family Talpidae (moles, desmans)

    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Family Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)
    Family Megadermatidae (false vampire bats)
    Family Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
    Family Craseonycteridae (Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat)
    Family Rhinolophidae (horseshoe bats)
    Family Hipposideridae (Old World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
    Family Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
    Family Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
    Family Noctilionidae (bulldog bats)
    Family Phyllostomidae (New World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)
    Family Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
    Family Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)
    Family Molossidae (free-tailed bats)
    Family Emballonuridae (sheath-tailed or sac-winged bats)
    Family Nycteridae (slit-faced bats)
    Family Vespertilionidae (vesper bats)
    Family Miniopteridae (bent-winged or long-fingered bats)

    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Family Manidae (pangolins)

    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Family Felidae (cats)
    Family Viverridae (civets, genets)
    Family Prionodontidae (Asian linsangs)
    Family Eupleridae (Madagascan mongooses)
    Family Nandiniidae (African Palm Civet)
    Family Herpestidae (mongooses)
    Family Hyaenidae (hyaenas)
    Family Canidae (dogs)
    Family Ursidae (bears)
    Family Odobenidae (Walrus)
    Family Otariidae (eared seals)
    Family Phocidae (earless seals)
    Family Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)
    Family Procyonidae (raccoons, ringtails, coatis)
    Family Ailuridae (Red Panda)
    Family Mephitidae (skunks, stink badgers)

    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    Family Equidae (horses)
    Family Tapiridae (tapirs)
    Family Rhinocerotidae (rhinoceroses)


    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Family Suidae (pigs) (do domestics count)
    Family Tayassuidae (peccaries)
    Family Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses)
    Family Camelidae (camelids)
    Family Tragulidae (mouse deer)
    Family Moschidae (musk deer)
    Family Cervidae (deer)
    Family Antilocapridae (Pronghorn)
    Family Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
    Family Bovidae (bovids)

    Where are antelopes?

    Order Cetacea (whales)
    Family Balaenidae (right whales)
    Family Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
    Family Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
    Family Eschrichtiidae (Gray Whale)
    Family Delphinidae (dolphins)
    Family Monodontidae (Narwhal, Beluga)
    Family Phocoenidae (porpoises)
    Family Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
    Family Physeteridae (Sperm Whale)
    Family Iniidae (Amazon river dolphins)
    Family Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
    Family Lipotidae (Baiji)
    Family Platanistidae (Ganges Dolphin)
    Family Ziphiidae (beaked whales)
     
  2. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I think that's what everybody did, which was the assumption I had made for replies anyway, so no need to apologise.


    I just had a look through the thread to see some figures.

    @Gondwana is in the top spot currently, with 26 Orders and 107 Families - although no list has been provided.

    Next for Orders are @lintworm @Najade @TZDugong and @ShonenJake13 who are all close behind with 25 Orders; @TeaLovingDave @Maguari and @ThylacineAlive come next with 24 Orders, and then @Chlidonias @birdsandbats and @twilighter with 23. @pipaluk has 22 and @MRJ has 16 (the latter is only counting wild animals). Nobody else has provided totals apart for @amur leopard (22 Orders and 75 Families but he keeps changing it so I don't know what he ended up with eventually).

    For the Families, after the 107 totaled by @Gondwana the next leaders are @Najade with 106; @lintworm and @Maguari with 104; @ShonenJake13 and @TeaLovingDave with 101; @ThylacineAlive with 100; @TZDugong with 99; @twilighter with 96; @pipaluk with 95; @Chlidonias with 91; and @MRJ has 45 (but is only listing wild animals). Nobody else gave figures for their Families.
     
  3. Jogy

    Jogy Well-Known Member

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    Followig my overview - especially marsupials, rodents and bats are really not easy...

    Seen only in the wild

    Seen only in captivity
    Seen in the wild and captivity

    My summary:
    Orders: 24 in captivity and 18 in the wild
    Families: 91 in captivity and 50 in the wild


    Orders:
    Order Monotremata (monotremes)

    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)

    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Order Proboscidea (elephants)

    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Order Cingulata (armadillos)

    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Order Primates (primates)
    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Order Chiroptera (bats)

    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)

    [Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)]
    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Order Cetacea (whales)


    Families:

    Order Monotremata (monotremes)
    Family Ornithorhynchidae (Platypus)
    Family Tachyglossidae (echidnas)

    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Family Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)

    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Family Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)

    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Family Didelphidae (American opossums)

    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Family Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)

    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Family Myrmecobiidae (Numbat)
    Family Dasyuridae (dasyurids)

    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Family Thylacomyidae (Bilby)
    Family Peramelidae (bandicoots)

    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Family Phascolarctidae (Koala)
    Family Vombatidae (wombats)
    Family Phalangeridae (brushtail possums and cuscuses)

    Family Burramyidae (pigmy possums)
    Family Pseudocheiridae (ringtail possums)
    Family Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)
    Family Acrobatidae (feathertail gliders)

    Family Tarsipedidae (Honey Possum)
    Family Hypsiprymnodontidae (Musky Rat Kangaroo)
    Family Potoroidae (rat kangaroos)
    Family Macropodidae (kangaroos, wallabies)

    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Family Tenrecidae (tenrecs)
    Family Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
    Family Chrysochloridae (golden moles)

    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Family Macroscelididae (elephant shrews)

    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Family Orycteropodidae (Aardvark)

    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Family Elephantidae (elephants)

    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Family Dugongidae (Dugong)
    Family Trichechidae (manatees)

    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Family Procaviidae (hyraxes)

    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Family Bradypodidae (three-toed sloths)
    Family Megalonychidae (two-toed sloths)
    Family Myrmecophagidae (anteaters)

    Family Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)

    Order Cingulata (armadillos)
    Family Dasypodidae (armadillos)

    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Family Cynocephalidae (colugos)

    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Family Tupaiidae (tree shrews)
    Family Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)

    Order Primates (primates)
    Family Cheirogaleidae (dwarf lemurs, mouse lemurs)
    Family Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
    Family Lemuridae (lemurs)

    Family Lepilemuridae (sportive lemurs)
    Family Indriidae (woolly lemurs, sifakas)
    Family Lorisidae (lorises)
    Family Galagidae (bushbabies)

    Family Tarsiidae (tarsiers)
    Family Callitrichidae (marmosets, tamarins)
    Family Cebidae (capuchins, squirrel monkeys)

    Family Aotidae (douroucoulis)
    Family Pitheciidae (titis, uakaris, sakis)
    Family Atelidae (howlers, spider monkeys, woolly monkeys)

    Family Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
    Family Hylobatidae (gibbons)
    Family Hominidae (apes)


    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Family Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
    Family Sciuridae (squirrels)
    Family Gliridae (dormice)

    Family Anomaluridae (anomalures)
    Family Pedetidae (springhaas)
    Family Castoridae (beavers)

    Family Geomyidae (pocket gophers)
    Family Heteromyidae (kangaroo rats, pocket mice)
    Family Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
    Family Ctenodactylidae (gundis)
    Family Bathyergidae (blesmols)
    Family Hystricidae (Old World porcupines)

    Family Petromuridae (Dassie Rat)
    Family Thryonomyidae (cane rats)
    Family Erethizontidae (New World porcupines)
    Family Chinchillidae (chinchillas, viscachas)

    Family Dinomyidae (Pacarana)
    Family Caviidae (cavies)
    Family Dasyproctidae (agoutis)
    Family Cuniculidae (pacas)

    Family Ctenomyidae (tuco-tucos)
    Family Octodontidae (octodonts)
    Family Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
    Family Echimyidae (New World spiny rats)
    Family Myocastoridae (Coypu)
    Family Capromyidae (hutias)
    Family Dipodidae (jerboas, jumping mice)

    Family Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
    Family Spalacidae (bamboo rats, mole rats)
    Family Calomyscidae (mouse-like hamsters)
    Family Nesomyidae (Madagascan and African rats and mice)
    Family Cricetidae (voles, hamsters, New World rats and mice)
    Family Muridae (Old World rats and mice)

    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Family Ochotonidae (pikas)
    Family Leporidae (rabbits)

    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Family Erinaceidae (hedgehogs, gymnures)

    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Family Solenodontidae (solenodons)
    Family Soricidae (shrews)
    Family Talpidae (moles, desmans)


    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Family Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)
    Family Megadermatidae (false vampire bats)
    Family Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
    Family Craseonycteridae (Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat)
    Family Rhinolophidae (horseshoe bats)
    Family Hipposideridae (Old World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
    Family Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
    Family Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
    Family Noctilionidae (bulldog bats)
    Family Phyllostomidae (New World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)
    Family Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
    Family Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)
    Family Molossidae (free-tailed bats)
    Family Emballonuridae (sheath-tailed or sac-winged bats)
    Family Nycteridae (slit-faced bats)
    Family Vespertilionidae (vesper bats)
    Family Miniopteridae (bent-winged or long-fingered bats)

    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Family Manidae (pangolins)

    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Family Felidae (cats)
    Family Viverridae (civets, genets)

    Family Prionodontidae (Asian linsangs)
    Family Eupleridae (Madagascan mongooses)
    Family Nandiniidae (African Palm Civet)
    Family Herpestidae (mongooses)
    Family Hyaenidae (hyaenas)
    Family Canidae (dogs)
    Family Ursidae (bears)
    Family Odobenidae (Walrus)
    Family Otariidae (eared seals)
    Family Phocidae (earless seals)
    Family Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)
    Family Procyonidae (raccoons, ringtails, coatis)

    Family Ailuridae (Red Panda)
    Family Mephitidae (skunks, stink badgers)


    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    Family Equidae (horses)
    Family Tapiridae (tapirs)
    Family Rhinocerotidae (rhinoceroses)

    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Family Suidae (pigs)
    Family Tayassuidae (peccaries)

    Family Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses)
    Family Camelidae (camelids)
    Family Tragulidae (mouse deer)
    Family Moschidae (musk deer)

    Family Cervidae (deer)
    Family Antilocapridae (Pronghorn)
    Family Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
    Family Bovidae (bovids)


    Order Cetacea (whales)
    Family Balaenidae (right whales)
    Family Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
    Family Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
    Family Eschrichtiidae (Gray Whale)
    Family Delphinidae (dolphins)
    Family Monodontidae (Narwhal, Beluga)

    Family Phocoenidae (porpoises)
    Family Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
    Family Physeteridae (Sperm Whale)
    Family Iniidae (Amazon river dolphins)
    Family Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
    Family Lipotidae (Baiji)
    Family Platanistidae (Ganges Dolphin)
    Family Ziphiidae (beaked whales)
     
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  4. Junklekitteb

    Junklekitteb Well-Known Member

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    Im surprised by the number of errors I've made. I have seen tapirs, rabbits and cavies in captivity. This puts me at 8 orders plus Diprodontia, and 29 families (14 wild, 27 in captivity)
     
  5. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Ooh, that one more for me!
     
  6. TZDugong

    TZDugong Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Hmm, I didn’t know this. I’ve seen Naked Mope-Rat on many different occasions, so my actual Family count should be at 100:).
     
  7. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I thought Naked Mole-Rats had been split into their own monotypic family?

    ~Thylo
     
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  8. aardvark250

    aardvark250 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I see wikipedia list them in their own family, but I can't find it on the list so I ask.
     
  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    The species has generally been placed in a subfamily (Heterocephalinae) based on genetic and anatomical differences. The elevation was basically from the argument that these amount to familial level rather than subfamilial. The paper is here (from 2014): newly recognized family from the Horn of Africa, the Heterocephalidae (Rodentia: Ctenohystrica)

    Mammals are by no means as "divided" as birds are when it comes to the taxonomy at family level, but especially amongst rodents and bats there is quite a bit of difference in how families may be split or combined. The families I used in this thread are the ones used in the Photographic Guides (and for my threads on those subjects I usually try to discuss alternative treatments of orders, families, genera, and species within them).
     
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  10. aardvark250

    aardvark250 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    So here is my list. I will invert the system, with bold being seen in captivity and underline being see in the wild. This is due to I haven’t been to wildlife seeing and this method is easier to see.


    Order Monotremata (monotremes)
    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)

    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Order Cingulata (armadillos)

    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)*
    Order Primates (primates)
    Order Rodentia (rodents)

    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)

    [Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)]
    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Order Cetacea (whales)



    *I believe I have seen a treeshrew in Ueno, but I can’t find photo evidence of me seeing it.

    Order count: 22/29+1 unsure

    Families:

    Order Monotremata (monotremes)
    Family Ornithorhynchidae (Platypus)
    Family Tachyglossidae (echidnas)

    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Family Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)

    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Family Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)

    Order Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Family Didelphidae (American opossums)

    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Family Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)

    Order Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Family Myrmecobiidae (Numbat)
    Family Dasyuridae (dasyurids)

    Order Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)
    Family Thylacomyidae (Bilby)
    Family Peramelidae (bandicoots)

    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Family Phascolarctidae (Koala)
    Family Vombatidae (wombats)
    Family Phalangeridae (brushtail possums and cuscuses)
    Family Burramyidae (pigmy possums)
    Family Pseudocheiridae (ringtail possums)
    Family Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)
    Family Acrobatidae (feathertail gliders)
    Family Tarsipedidae (Honey Possum)
    Family Hypsiprymnodontidae (Musky Rat Kangaroo)
    Family Potoroidae (rat kangaroos)
    Family Macropodidae (kangaroos, wallabies)


    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Family Tenrecidae (tenrecs)
    Family Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
    Family Chrysochloridae (golden moles)

    Order Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Family Macroscelididae (elephant shrews)

    Order Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Family Orycteropodidae (Aardvark)

    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Family Elephantidae (elephants)

    Order Sirenia (sirenians)
    Family Dugongidae (Dugong)
    Family Trichechidae (manatees)


    Order Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Family Procaviidae (hyraxes)

    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Family Bradypodidae (three-toed sloths)
    Family Megalonychidae (two-toed sloths)
    Family Myrmecophagidae (anteaters)

    Family Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)

    Order Cingulata (armadillos)
    Family Dasypodidae (armadillos)

    Order Dermoptera (colugos)
    Family Cynocephalidae (colugos)

    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Family Tupaiidae (tree shrews)*
    Family Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)

    Order Primates (primates)
    Family Cheirogaleidae (dwarf lemurs, mouse lemurs)
    Family Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
    Family Lemuridae (lemurs)
    Family Lepilemuridae (sportive lemurs)
    Family Indriidae (woolly lemurs, sifakas)
    Family Lorisidae (lorises)
    Family Galagidae (bushbabies)
    Family Tarsiidae (tarsiers)

    Family Callitrichidae (marmosets, tamarins)
    Family Cebidae (capuchins, squirrel monkeys)

    Family Aotidae (douroucoulis)
    Family Pitheciidae (titis, uakaris, sakis)
    Family Atelidae (howlers, spider monkeys, woolly monkeys)
    Family Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
    Family Hylobatidae (gibbons)
    Family Hominidae (apes)


    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Family Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
    Family Sciuridae (squirrels)
    Family Gliridae (dormice)
    Family Anomaluridae (anomalures)
    Family Pedetidae (springhaas)
    Family Castoridae (beavers)
    Family Geomyidae (pocket gophers)
    Family Heteromyidae (kangaroo rats, pocket mice)
    Family Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
    Family Ctenodactylidae (gundis)
    Family Bathyergidae (blesmols)
    Family Hystricidae (Old World porcupines)
    Family Petromuridae (Dassie Rat)
    Family Thryonomyidae (cane rats)
    Family Erethizontidae (New World porcupines)
    Family Chinchillidae (chinchillas, viscachas)

    Family Dinomyidae (Pacarana)
    Family Caviidae (cavies)
    Family Dasyproctidae (agoutis)
    Family Cuniculidae (pacas)
    Family Ctenomyidae (tuco-tucos)
    Family Octodontidae (octodonts)
    Family Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
    Family Echimyidae (New World spiny rats)
    Family Myocastoridae (Coypu)
    Family Capromyidae (hutias)
    Family Dipodidae (jerboas, jumping mice)
    Family Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
    Family Spalacidae (bamboo rats, mole rats)
    Family Calomyscidae (mouse-like hamsters)
    Family Nesomyidae (Madagascan and African rats and mice)
    Family Cricetidae (voles, hamsters, New World rats and mice)
    Family Muridae (Old World rats and mice)

    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Family Ochotonidae (pikas)
    Family Leporidae (rabbits)

    Order Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Family Erinaceidae (hedgehogs, gymnures)

    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Family Solenodontidae (solenodons)
    Family Soricidae (shrews)
    Family Talpidae (moles, desmans)


    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Family Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)
    Family Megadermatidae (false vampire bats)
    Family Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
    Family Craseonycteridae (Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat)
    Family Rhinolophidae (horseshoe bats)
    Family Hipposideridae (Old World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
    Family Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
    Family Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
    Family Noctilionidae (bulldog bats)
    Family Phyllostomidae (New World leaf-nosed bats)
    Family Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)
    Family Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
    Family Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)
    Family Molossidae (free-tailed bats)
    Family Emballonuridae (sheath-tailed or sac-winged bats)
    Family Nycteridae (slit-faced bats)
    Family Vespertilionidae (vesper bats)
    Family Miniopteridae (bent-winged or long-fingered bats)

    Order Pholidota (pangolins)
    Family Manidae (pangolins)

    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Family Felidae (cats)
    Family Viverridae (civets, genets)

    Family Prionodontidae (Asian linsangs)
    Family Eupleridae (Madagascan mongooses)
    Family Nandiniidae (African Palm Civet)
    Family Herpestidae (mongooses)
    Family Hyaenidae (hyaenas)
    Family Canidae (dogs)
    Family Ursidae (bears)
    Family Odobenidae (Walrus)
    Family Otariidae (eared seals)
    Family Phocidae (earless seals)

    Family Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)
    Family Procyonidae (raccoons, ringtails, coatis)
    Family Ailuridae (Red Panda)
    Family Mephitidae (skunks, stink badgers)


    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    Family Equidae (horses)
    Family Tapiridae (tapirs)
    Family Rhinocerotidae (rhinoceroses)


    Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)

    Order Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Family Suidae (pigs)
    Family Tayassuidae (peccaries)
    Family Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses)
    Family Camelidae (camelids)
    Family Tragulidae (mouse deer)

    Family Moschidae (musk deer)
    Family Cervidae (deer)
    Family Antilocapridae (Pronghorn)
    Family Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
    Family Bovidae (bovids)

    Order Cetacea (whales)
    Family Balaenidae (right whales)
    Family Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
    Family Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
    Family Eschrichtiidae (Gray Whale)
    Family Delphinidae (dolphins)
    Family Monodontidae (Narwhal, Beluga)
    Family Phocoenidae (porpoises)
    Family Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
    Family Physeteridae (Sperm Whale)
    Family Iniidae (Amazon river dolphins)
    Family Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
    Family Lipotidae (Baiji)
    Family Platanistidae (Ganges Dolphin)
    Family Ziphiidae (beaked whales)


    75 family seen if I count it right.
     
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  11. Najade

    Najade Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I've never used or been out with someone using night-vision. No clue how effective those things are. But that's as good a strategy as any I guess^^

    How do people go about looking for other fossorial species like golden moles, moles, mole-rats, etc? Those seem to be doable in the field as far as I know, but I haven't looked into it too much.
     
  12. lintworm

    lintworm Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Basically nobody has seen golden moles or mole-rats as far as I am aware. The only strategy I have come across is waiting at the end of a burrow (though some species must be trapped as well). Moles tend to come aboveground from time to time, especially juveniles when leaving their original territory. So I don't know what your definition of doable is, but seeing such animals seems to need an incredible amount of luck and patience. I have personally seen Naked Mole-rat activity in the wild, as in seeing one of their mounts grow, but that is as close as it gets and I am not aware of anyone seeing them without actively trapping.
     
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    Mr. Zootycoon Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I once saw a European Mole crossing a road aboveground. It was a bizarre sight but I was very happy with it. Another time I saw a mole just digging around aboveground in the leaf litter for a few minutes. So both my encounters were chance events.

    There's is one strategy that may work but it is very dependent upon local conditions. I know a guy that sometimes goes to the floodplains when the river is flooding, because then all of the moles and shrews and voles come out of their burrows to find higher ground. It is a very tricky strategy but the only one that I know of that doesn't rely on pure luck.
     
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    Najade Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    "from a safari guide in Kenya that Naked Mole-rat is pretty easy to see in Meru NP, and sometimes also in Samburu NR"

    "Golden moles are relatively easy in Kirstenbosch, Lambert’s Bay and Plettensberg Bay"

    that's from the discussion on mammalwatching.com so I assumed that it was at least possible. But as I said I haven't looked into it any further than that.
     
  15. lintworm

    lintworm Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I think everyone seeing Mole-Rats sees mounds I believe, at least the trip reports I have read...
     
  16. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    My total is 23 Orders and 100-104 Families.
     
  17. Chlidonias

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    I was going to quote that one too.

    I don't know anything about that specific example, but from my experience certain mammal-watchers seem to readily inflate "seeing an animal somewhere once" to "this is a reliable site for this species".


    I get the impression that mole rats are "easy" to see in the Ethiopian highlands though. (Not Naked Mole Rats, regular mole rats).
     
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  18. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I

    I have gone through the lists of 20 Zoochatters.

    The following Families have been seen by all 20 Zoochatters:

    Order Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Family Phascolarctidae (Koala)
    Family Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)

    Order Proboscidea (elephants)
    Family Elephantidae (elephants)

    Order Primates (primates)
    Family Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
    Family Hylobatidae (gibbons)
    Family Hominidae (apes)

    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Family Sciuridae (squirrels)
    Family Muridae (Old World rats and mice)

    Order Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)
    Family Leporidae (rabbits)

    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Family Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)

    Order Carnivora (carnivores)
    Family Felidae (cats)
    Family Herpestidae (mongooses)
    Family Canidae (dogs)
    Family Ursidae (bears)
    Family Otariidae (eared seals)
    Family Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)

    Order Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    Family Equidae (horses)
    Family Tapiridae (tapirs)

    Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)
    Family Suidae (pigs)
    Family Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
    Family Bovidae (bovids)
    Family Delphinidae (dolphins)

    None of the 20 Zoochatters claim to have seen the following Families:

    Order Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Family Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)

    Order Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Family Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)

    Order Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Family Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)

    Order Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Family Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
    Family Chrysochloridae (golden moles)

    Order Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Family Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)

    Order Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Family Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)

    Order Rodentia (rodents)
    Family Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
    Family Anomaluridae (anomalures)
    Family Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
    Family Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
    Family Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)

    Order Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Family Solenodontidae (solenodons)

    Order Chiroptera (bats)
    Family Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
    Family Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
    Family Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
    Family Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
    Family Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)

    Order Cetartiodactyla (artiodactyls and cetaceans)
    Family Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
    Family Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
    Family Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
    Family Lipotidae (Baiji)

    I know one Zoochatter who said he saw a solenodon at London Zoo in 1967. I once had a talk with a London Zoo Volunteer who claimed to have seen a thylacine at London Zoo in the late 1920s or early 1930s.
     
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    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Mammals, lists, challenges....oh you KNOW I'm gonna enjoy this!



    Following @ThylacineAlive's method: Black = captive only; Blue = wild & captive; Red = wild only

    Orders: 26/29 total, 7/29 captive only, 18/29 wild & captive, 1/29 wild only

    Monotremata (monotremes)
    Microbiotheria (Monito del Monte)
    Paucituberculata (shrew-opossums)
    Didelphimorphia (American opossums)
    Notoryctemorphia (marsupial moles)
    Dasyuromorphia (carnivorous marsupials)
    Peramelemorphia (bandicoots)

    Diprotodontia (kangaroos, possums, etc)
    Afrosoricida (tenrecs and golden moles)
    Macroscelidea (elephant shrews)
    Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
    Proboscidea (elephants)
    Sirenia (sirenians)
    Hyracoidea (hyraxes)
    Pilosa (sloths and anteaters)
    Cingulata (armadillos)

    Dermoptera (colugos)
    Scandentia (tree shrews)
    Primates (primates)
    Rodentia (rodents)
    Lagomorpha (lagomorphs)

    Erinaceomorpha (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    Soricomorpha (shrews etc)
    Chiroptera (bats)

    Pholidota (pangolins)
    Carnivora (carnivores)
    Perissodactyla (perissodactyls)
    Artiodactyla (artiodactyls)
    Cetacea (whales)


    ---

    Families: 127/156 total, 57/156 captive only, 60/156 wild & captive, 10/156 wild only

    Ornithorhynchidae (Platypus)
    Tachyglossidae (echidnas)
    ---

    Microbiotheriidae (Monito del Monte)
    ---
    Caenolestidae (shrew-opossums)
    ---
    Didelphidae (American opossums)
    ---
    Notoryctidae (marsupial moles)
    ---
    Myrmecobiidae (Numbat)
    Dasyuridae (dasyurids)

    ---
    Thylacomyidae (Bilby)
    Peramelidae (bandicoots)

    ---
    Phascolarctidae (Koala)
    Vombatidae (wombats)

    Phalangeridae (brushtail possums and cuscuses)
    Burramyidae (pigmy possums)
    Pseudocheiridae (ringtail possums)
    Petauridae (striped possums, gliders)
    Acrobatidae (feathertail gliders)

    Tarsipedidae (Honey Possum)
    Hypsiprymnodontidae (Musky Rat Kangaroo)
    Potoroidae (rat kangaroos)
    Macropodidae (kangaroos, wallabies)
    ---
    Tenrecidae (tenrecs)
    Potamogalididae (otter shrews)
    Chrysochloridae (golden moles)
    ---
    Macroscelididae (elephant shrews)
    ---
    Orycteropodidae (Aardvark)
    ---
    Elephantidae (elephants)
    ---
    Dugongidae (Dugong)
    Trichechidae (manatees)

    ---
    Procaviidae (hyraxes)
    ---
    Bradypodidae (three-toed sloths)
    Megalonychidae (two-toed sloths)
    Myrmecophagidae (anteaters)

    Cyclopedidae (silky anteaters)
    ---
    Dasypodidae (armadillos)
    ---
    Cynocephalidae (colugos)
    ---
    Tupaiidae (tree shrews)
    Ptilocercidae (Pen-tailed Tree Shrew)
    ---
    Cheirogaleidae (dwarf lemurs, mouse lemurs)
    Daubentoniidae (Aye-aye)
    Lemuridae (lemurs)

    Lepilemuridae (sportive lemurs)
    Indriidae (woolly lemurs, sifakas)
    Lorisidae (lorises)

    Galagidae (bushbabies)
    Tarsiidae (tarsiers)
    Callitrichidae (marmosets, tamarins)
    Cebidae (capuchins, squirrel monkeys)

    Aotidae (douroucoulis)
    Pitheciidae (titis, uakaris, sakis)

    Atelidae (howlers, spider monkeys, woolly monkeys)
    Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys)
    Hylobatidae (gibbons)
    Hominidae (apes)

    ---
    Aplodontiidae (Sewellel)
    Sciuridae (squirrels)
    Gliridae (dormice)
    Anomaluridae (anomalures)
    Pedetidae (springhaas)
    Castoridae (beavers)
    Geomyidae (pocket gophers)

    Heteromyidae (kangaroo rats, pocket mice)
    Diatomyidae / Laonastidae (Laotian Rock Rat)
    Ctenodactylidae (gundis)
    Bathyergidae (blesmols)
    Hystricidae (Old World porcupines)
    Petromuridae (Dassie Rat)

    Thryonomyidae (cane rats)
    Erethizontidae (New World porcupines)
    Chinchillidae (chinchillas, viscachas)
    Dinomyidae (Pacarana)

    Caviidae (cavies)
    Dasyproctidae (agoutis)

    Cuniculidae (pacas)
    Ctenomyidae (tuco-tucos)
    Octodontidae (octodonts)
    Abrocomidae (chinchilla rats)
    Echimyidae (New World spiny rats)
    Myocastoridae (Coypu)
    Capromyidae (hutias)
    Dipodidae (jerboas, jumping mice)
    Platacanthomyidae (spiny dormice)
    Spalacidae (bamboo rats, mole rats)
    Calomyscidae (mouse-like hamsters)
    Nesomyidae (Madagascan and African rats and mice)
    Cricetidae (voles, hamsters, New World rats and mice)
    Muridae (Old World rats and mice)

    ---
    Ochotonidae (pikas)
    Leporidae (rabbits)

    ---
    Erinaceidae (hedgehogs, gymnures)
    ---
    Solenodontidae (solenodons)
    Soricidae (shrews)
    Talpidae (moles, desmans)
    ---
    Pteropodidae (Old World fruit bats)
    Megadermatidae (false vampire bats)
    Rhinopomatidae (mouse-tailed bats)
    Craseonycteridae (Kitti's Hog-nosed Bat)
    Rhinolophidae (horseshoe bats)
    Hipposideridae (Old World leaf-nosed bats)
    Furipteridae (Smokey Bat and Thumbless Bat)
    Thyropteridae (disc-winged bats)
    Mormoopidae (moustached bats and ghost-faced bats)
    Noctilionidae (bulldog bats)

    Phyllostomidae (New World leaf-nosed bats)
    Mystacinidae (New Zealand Short-tailed Bat)
    Myzopodidae (Madagascan sucker-footed bats)
    Natalidae (funnel-eared bats)
    Molossidae (free-tailed bats)
    Emballonuridae (sheath-tailed or sac-winged bats)
    Nycteridae (slit-faced bats)

    Vespertilionidae (vesper bats)
    Miniopteridae (bent-winged or long-fingered bats)
    ---
    Manidae (pangolins)
    ---
    Felidae (cats)
    Viverridae (civets, genets)

    Prionodontidae (Asian linsangs)
    Eupleridae (Madagascan mongooses)
    Nandiniidae (African Palm Civet)

    Herpestidae (mongooses)
    Hyaenidae (hyaenas)
    Canidae (dogs)

    Ursidae (bears)
    Odobenidae (Walrus)

    Otariidae (eared seals)
    Phocidae (earless seals)
    Mustelidae (weasels, badgers, otters)
    Procyonidae (raccoons, ringtails, coatis)

    Ailuridae (Red Panda)
    Mephitidae (skunks, stink badgers)
    ---
    Equidae (horses)
    Tapiridae (tapirs)

    Rhinocerotidae (rhinoceroses)
    ---
    Suidae (pigs)
    Tayassuidae (peccaries)
    Hippopotamidae (hippopotamuses)

    Camelidae (camelids)
    Tragulidae (mouse deer)
    Moschidae (musk deer)

    Cervidae (deer)
    Antilocapridae (Pronghorn)
    Giraffidae (Giraffe, Okapi)
    Bovidae (bovids)

    ---
    Balaenidae (right whales)
    Cetotheriidae (Pigmy Right Whale)
    Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
    Eschrichtiidae (Gray Whale)
    Delphinidae (dolphins)
    Monodontidae (Narwhal, Beluga)
    Phocoenidae (porpoises)
    Kogiidae (pigmy sperm whales)
    Physeteridae (Sperm Whale)
    Iniidae (Amazon river dolphins)
    Pontoporiidae (La Plata Dolphin)
    Lipotidae (Baiji)
    Platanistidae (Ganges Dolphin)
    Ziphiidae (beaked whales)

    @Dassie rat you're going to have to update your last post :)
     
  20. Najade

    Najade Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I seem to remember seeing a trip report where someone had Golden Moles too. I’ll see if I can find it again.

    But in any case that’s already more leads than I had for marsupial mole^^
    The same guy said he had a few ideas for seeing mm. Would be interesting to know what comes of that or what those ideas are in the first place...