Join our zoo community

Monarto Safari Park Monarto Zoo, March 2010

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Hix, 7 Apr 2010.

  1. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands 15+ year member Premium Member

    Joined:
    20 Oct 2008
    Posts:
    4,547
    Location:
    Sydney
    I arrived at Monarto at a little after midday, a couple of hours later than I originally intended. The sky was still overcast but didn’t look like rain. Reluctantly, I set the ISO on my camera to 200.

    The Visitor’s Centre was the pretty much the same as my previous visit 2 ½ years ago, although the Bilby (or Bilbies) had been removed from the pit. A sign said that the enclosure was empty, but there were at least four Spinifex Hopping Mice running around feeding. There were still Hopping Mice and Lizards on display in glass tanks as well.

    I only had a few minutes to wait for the bus. A couple of meerkats were out, but they weren’t very active. It wasn’t a cold day, but it wasn’t particularly warm either. I took a couple of photos and then boarded the bus.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/meerkat-137020/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/example-labeling-137012/

    I don’t remember the guide’s name, but the busdriver was named Patsy. Hard to forget for two reasons – firstly, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone named Patsy before, and secondly, the Guide kept asking Patsy questions about what had happened on tours that morning: “Did you see the Wedgetail Eagle this morning, Patsy?”, “Did you see them right up by the bus before, Patsy” etc. We never heard Patsy’s responses, but whatever she said seemed to keep our guide happy. Of course, our Guide reinforcing what we were missing out on probably wasn’t the best PR, but she was one of those volunteers that treats her job like a social outing and likes to chat with everyone.

    The Guide was full of information about the animals, most of it very basic and mostly correct. Unfortunately, she was also anthropomorphic. And to make matters worse, there was some idiotic woman passenger on the bus who was quite sympathetic and emotional to the animals’ situations. When we were told about habitat destruction, and species hunted for their hides or their horns or other body parts, there would be a loud “Ohhh!”, “Ooohh, that’s awful”, or “Oh no, why would they do that?” from this woman. When two Przewalski Horses started fighting she slapped the window of the bus and shouted “Stop that!” at them, which they ignored, of course. AS the Przewalksi’s were the first thing we saw, I knew it was going to be a loooooong bus ride and wondered if I shouldn’t get off at the first stop.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/przewalskis-horse-137021/

    As I said, the Przewalski’s were the first animals visited on the tour and they had just been fed. After spending a few minutes watching them feed we left for the Black Rhinos. It wasn’t until later that evening I realised we didn’t see the Bison which should have been next. I don’t know if they were off display, if Patsy had gotten lost, or if Our Guide knew nothing about Bison so we didn’t go there to save her embarrassment. Whatever reason, we didn’t see the Bison. Or the Dromedaries which have had an enclosure built for them in the Bison paddock.

    I won’t go into details of the full bus ride, which took about an hour. Apart from the Bison we drove into or around all the other exhibits and saw most of the occupants up fairly close. I was not really impressed by the Bongo enclosure (although our guide was very excited that one of the Bongos was so close, and the idiot woman was in awe at “the most beautiful animal” she had ever seen). There were at least two addax and six eland calves, and the Spotted Hyena cubs were almost as large as the parents. After leaving the Cheetahs we drove through an enormous undeveloped grassed paddock that only housed a few emu and kangaroos (titled below as "Large expanse of nothing"). Our guide said something about this area going to have more native species soon. However, according to the map I was given, this area is dwarfed by a much larger area (the Bretag Scrub) which will be a “Future release site for native animals”.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/bongo-enclosure-137010/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/addax-young-137037/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/addax-137049/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/eland-137026/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/spotted-hyena-137032/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/spotted-hyena-137031/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/spotted-hyena-137030/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/large-expanse-nothing-137011/

    When the bus dropped us off at the Visitor’s Centre I set off on foot, first to the Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby enclosure, and then over to the new Chimpanzee exhibit. At the time of my visit (mid-March 2010) they had four males but only Sandali was outside. At first I thought he’d been separated, but a volunteer pointed out the open door to the inner area – apparently Sandali enjoyed the outdoor exhibit more than the others did.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/sandali-137039/

    The exhibit itself is quite large. It looks about half the size of Taronga’s Chimp Park (or at least, it looks like that to me, it could be a bit larger or smaller), is sloping with a stream running through the middle. There were quite a few trees in the enclosure, mainly Eucalypts, and some grasses appear to have been planted. The ground was covered in woodchips. In addition, a couple of climbing platforms had been built out of poles and ropes strung between. I was really surprised at the trees. There appeared to be no damage at all to any of them. I would have though the chimps would have stripped the leaves or broken off branches, but there was no evidence of this, and the four chimps had been in the exhibit together for some months. Maybe when they get some girls they want to impress …

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/new-chimpanzee-exhibit-137013/

    The indoor area, referred to as an exercise room, was quite spacious and high, with climbing frames, ropes, shelves and platforms, toys and browse. The floor consisted of a deep layer of wood chips. The three chimps inside were very inactive, sitting around doing nothing. Maybe they had just been fed – Sandali was outside eating a piece of corn (but was otherwise just as inactive).

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/new-chimpanzee-exhibit-inside-area-137014/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/new-chimpanzee-exhibit-inside-area-137015/

    I left the chimps and started walking the Ridge Track to the Giraffe feeding platform. I passed the ‘lookout’ to the Black Rhinos (which I think is appalling because the view of much of the exhibit is blocked by a couple of small trees) and arrived at the giraffes a little after the feeding and talk had begun. The keeper was standing on the back of a truck giving the talk and handfeeding a hand-reared eland. The presentation encompassed both giraffes and elands and was quite good. A nice change to the bus-ride commentary. After asking a few questions (the waterbuck are off-display due to over-aggressive behaviour) I set off on foot again.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/walking-trail-view-black-rhinos-137017/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/keeper-talk-giraffe-eland-feeding-137018/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/giraffe-137045/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/giraffe-137035/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/giraffe-137025/

    This time I walked the Boma Track to the Cheetahs. Again, I arrived after the keeper talk had started. The keeper was in the enclosure with the three hand-reared males and was getting them to do some basic behaviours so he could check their paws, teeth etc. The presentation was quite good and informative. It was entertaining to watch the keeper working one animal, while another tried to get into the food container on his belt.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/cheetah-137027/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/cheetah-137054/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/cheetah-talk-137056/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/cheetah-talk-137052/

    I walked back to the White Rhinos to wait for a bus to take me up to the Spotted Hyenas, Wild Dogs and Lions again. While waiting I saw a wild Wedgetail Eagle in flight and managed to get some photos of it, not the best because with a cloudy background and no sun the eagles appear more as silhouettes.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/wild-wedgetail-eagle-137059/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/wild-wedgetail-eagle-137058/

    The bus arrived, but it was heading back to the Visitor’s Centre. I decided not to wait any longer as it was getting late and I still had to go to Mt Barker and find some accommodation. So I jumped on the bus.

    Back at the Visitor’s Centre I bought a few souvenirs (spent more money than I should have), grabbed something to eat and drink and then left. It was around 4pm. As I got to my car in the carpark the sun broke through the clouds and shone strongly for the rest of the afternoon.

    :p

    Hix
     
  2. boof

    boof Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    16 Jan 2005
    Posts:
    1,384
    Location:
    Nyngan,nsw,australia
    oooohh, that bongo photo is the most beautiful photo I've ever seen.:p:p
     
  3. Electus Parrot

    Electus Parrot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    10 Feb 2008
    Posts:
    326
    Location:
    Adelaide, SA
    Nice review Hix.
    When I was there in spring last year we didn't visit the bison either, I think they have been off display for a while now but as you drive in there is a spot where you can park and view them.

    To anyone who in the future, visit the mallee fowl aviary which is on one of the trails. I think it is a 1.2km walk there but firstly it is good exercise and also along the way there are many species of wild birds including red-capped robins, white-plumed honeyeaters and diamond firetails. In the aviary there is a pair of mallee fowl, a pair of bush thick-knee and a brush-tailed bettong.
     
  4. brad09

    brad09 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    26 Oct 2009
    Posts:
    64
    Location:
    sydney
    thats funny that u mention the bisson of display as i was there at the beggining of last year around janurary (just before that really hot heat wave ) and they were on display then.
     
  5. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands 15+ year member Premium Member

    Joined:
    20 Oct 2008
    Posts:
    4,547
    Location:
    Sydney
    Yeah, but when I stopped on the way out I couldn't see any, only the dromedaries.

    When i wa slast at Monarto, on a day when the temperature was close to 40, I walked the Malleefowl Track specifically to see the Malleefowl enclosure. I didn't see the Malleefowl, but got some good photos of the Thick-knees (the second shot below demonstrates their camouflage). But what I was most excited about was seeing a flock of wild Diamond Firetails around the aviary.

    http://www.zoochat.com/76/bush-stone-curlew-29869/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/bush-stone-curlew-29868/
    http://www.zoochat.com/76/diamond-firetail-finch-wild-29876/

    :p

    Hix
     
  6. Ara

    Ara Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    1,117
    Location:
    Sydney (Northern Suburbs)
    Let's face it; Monarto just isn't Bongo country. They should be back at Adelaide zoo in a nice heavily planted "rainforesty" enclosure.
     
  7. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands 15+ year member Premium Member

    Joined:
    20 Oct 2008
    Posts:
    4,547
    Location:
    Sydney
    Agreed. Unless Monarto goes to all the trouble of creating a rainforesty area. But I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon.

    :p

    Hix
     
  8. nanoboy

    nanoboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2011
    Posts:
    4,693
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    Visited Monarto yesterday. No need to give a full review as Hix's is great.

    I did not see the bongo at all, which is disappointing. I also learned some cool facts from the guides:

    Veiled chameleons are from Madagascar
    Scimitar horned oryx are still found in the wild
    The 'Vietnamese' rhino went extinct last year
    There are less than 30 Sumatran and Javan rhinos left

    Monarto was not my cup of tea. I hated waiting for buses. I hated the concept of no queue and everyone pushing to get on board. I missed the carnivore feed because I could not get on the bus.

    The enclosures are a long long walk from the bus stop, and the animals were usually very far away when we eventually got there - eg cheetahs were so far away we could not discern what they were.

    The rhino talk was a waste of time due to the small viewing area - just about 15 people could see. And of course, no one moved to give others a look until the rhino walked away.

    The buses, I felt, never stopped long enough for us to get good photos of or to appreciate the animals.

    All in all, I much prefer Werribee's layout - small enough to walk around, and enough time on the bus with the animals. Oh, and forget Monarto if you have mobility issues (pram, walking stick, Zimmer frame, wheelchair) because the ground is unsealed and very uneven, and the distances are long.

    I liked the fact that we drove through the carnivore enclosure though!
     
  9. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,395
    Location:
    New Zealand
    *re-introduced to nature reserves, as opposed to "still found in the wild" (minor but important difference)
    *I think you either misinterpreted what was said, or the guide mis-spoke (or misunderstood something he/she was told)
     
  10. nanoboy

    nanoboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2011
    Posts:
    4,693
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    I was being sarcastic about them being 'facts'. I forgot that you are like Sheldon Cooper and can't spot it. :D
     
  11. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,395
    Location:
    New Zealand
    oh I see, fair enough comment. I'm usually pretty good about spotting sarcasm, but in your case I just assume the worst :p

    I did, as it happens, completely overlook when reading your post that veiled chameleons are from Africa and not Madagascar (I think my mind must have been thinking panther chameleons or something). However, having said that, what is your issue with Vietnamese rhinos being declared extinct last year?
     
  12. nanoboy

    nanoboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2011
    Posts:
    4,693
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    I am typing on an iPhone, so I didn't have time to type the spiel verbatim. Basically, the Vietnamese rhino comment she made, sounded like a separate species of rhino, rather than Javan rhinos in Vietnam. The very next sentence was about 30 Javan AND Sumatran being left.

    PS* I mixed up my zoos re: chameleon. The chameleon false-fact was stated at the Adelaide Zoo - not Monarto.
     
  13. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    12 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    3,288
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Veiled chameleons come from the Arabian Peninsula.
     
  14. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,395
    Location:
    New Zealand
    that counts as Africa to me
     
  15. nanoboy

    nanoboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2011
    Posts:
    4,693
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    Yeah I forgot to correct you in my previous post: they come from Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

    And although it may count as Africa to you, it is not in Africa. I take it that you don't get exposed to much Arabs out in your parts? :p Never try to tell an Arab, even a north African one that he is african - culturally, historically, and linguistically they are Arab. "African" connotates black Africa. I was taught these differences in university by my classmates who seemed to get annoyed that we did not know the difference. :D You are far better at identifying birds than geography. :D
     
  16. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,395
    Location:
    New Zealand
    I thought we were talking about chameleons, not people? Geologically and biologically the Saudi Arabian side of the Middle East is predominantly African. If you or Arabians want to believe that it's not Africa because the people there aren't black then that is your/their bias not mine.
     
    Last edited: 9 Apr 2012
  17. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    12 Feb 2009
    Posts:
    3,288
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Fair enough mate. On that basis, Birds of paradise and Papuan hornbills come from Australia and importing them from PNG shouldn't be a problem. :p
     
  18. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,395
    Location:
    New Zealand
    but if you're going to be talking about importing then that is a political area not a zoogeographical one :p
     
  19. nanoboy

    nanoboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Mar 2011
    Posts:
    4,693
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    Haha. I knew you would find a loophole to try to prove you were right. :D
    I suspect that Israelis especially will have a problem with you calling them African. :)

    In my mind, Madagascar is part of Africa, so the guide was almost right after all then! :D
     
  20. Jabiru96

    Jabiru96 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Feb 2010
    Posts:
    2,743
    Location:
    Sydney
    0.1 giraffe 'Malaika' has died at the age of 21.

    And also a new Tasmanian Devil exhibit has opened at the 'Waterhole'.
     
    Last edited: 18 May 2012