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Monkey and Lemur species in North America

Discussion in 'North America - General' started by RatioTile, 16 May 2020.

  1. RatioTile

    RatioTile Well-Known Member

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    I’m interested in photographing as many primate species as possible. For European zoos there’s Zootierliste that I’ve searched for monkeys and lemurs, but I can’t find a reliable database on the diversity of monkeys and lemurs kept in the US and Canada. I’m especially interested in knowing what species are kept of the following groups, and where:

    Guenons
    Mangabeys
    Baboons (besides olive and hamadryas)
    Macaques (especially of the Sulawesi species complex)
    Spider, howler, and wooly monkeys
    Sakis and titis
    Bamboo lemurs
    Mouse lemurs

    Thanks!
     
  2. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I can think of Cincinnati Zoo's Grey Wolf Guenons (only ones in captivity)
    Cincy also houses black howlers, and white faced sakis.
    The Virginia Zoo has White-Faced Sakis and Bolivian Grey Titis.
    Definitely Duke Lemur Center has these species. Though Cincy had a bamboo lemur recently, but it sadly has passed :( .

    That's all I can come up with at the moment.
     
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  3. Onychorhynchus coronatus

    Onychorhynchus coronatus Well-Known Member

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    For Mexico (I know it isn't Canada and the US as stated but still part of North America and maybe of interest) you have :

    Guenons : Debrazza monkey (Guadalajara zoo).

    Mangabeys : None as far as I can tell or remember.

    Baboons (Many hamydryas baboons kept) : Guinea baboon (Guadalajara zoo).

    Spiders and Howlers (No wooly monkeys) : Mexican spider monkey (Chapultepec zoo, San Juan de Aragon zoo, Morelia zoo, Guadalajara zoo, Zacango zoo , Leon zoo and many smaller collections around the country ) , Mexican howler monkey (Chapultepec zoo, San Juan de Aragon zoo, Morelia zoo, Guadalajara zoo, Zacango zoo , Leon zoo and many smaller collections around the country).

    Titis and sakis : None as far as I can tell or remember.

    Macaques : Tonkean macaque (Morelia zoo) , Lion tailed macaque (Guadalajara zoo) , Japanese macaque (Chapultepec zoo , Morelia zoo) , crab eating macaque (Chapultepec zoo, Zacango zoo , San Juan de Aragon zoo).

    Bamboo lemurs : None as far as I can tell or remember.

    Mouse lemurs : None as far as I can tell or remember.
     
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  4. RatioTile

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    What's a Grey Wolf Guenon? Is it a subspecies of Cercopithecus wolfi? Bronx Zoo has one subspecies of that monkey.
     
  5. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Ah sorry, it's the Grey's Crowned Guenon.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I have seen the following from the groups you're asking:

    Geoffroy's Spider Monkey
    Black Howler Monkey
    Common Squirrel Monkey
    White-faced Saki
    Crab-eating Macaque
    Lion-tailed Macaque
    Francois's Langur
    Guereza
    Angolan Colobus
    Wolf's Guenon
    DeBrazza's Monkey
    Allen's Swamp Monkey
    Patas Monkey
    Mandrill
    Gelada (only held by San Diego and Bronx)

    I've missed seeing Vervet, and probably missing one or two species since I'm going out of my head.
     
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  7. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    This is my list of non-ape primates in US institutions, from USDA inspections. I have NOT proofed this or anything, just wrote down species as I was looking for something else; the only thing I've done is look up the more typical common names based on latin names provided by USDA. If there is a name in parentheses, that's what it is called in their system. I can do a document search for any that you want locations for.

    Baboons: Guinea, Hamadryas, Olive

    Bushbabies & Galagos: Allen’s bushbaby, Brown Greater galago (greater bushbaby), Mohol (senegal) bushbaby, Northern Greater galago, Senegal (northern lesser) bushbaby

    Capuchins & Squirrels: Bare-eared (golden-backed) squirrel, Black-capped squirrel, Common squirrel, Tufted capuchin, Wedge-capped (weeper) capuchin, White-fronted (brown pale-fronted) capuchin, White-headed capuchin

    Colobuses: Angolan, Eastern B&W/Mantled Guereza, Western B&W/King

    Gibbons: Buff-cheeked gibbon, Lar gibbon, Mueller’s (grey) gibbon, Northern White-cheeked gibbon, Pileated gibbon, Siamang, Silvery (javan) gibbon, Western Hoolock gibbon

    Guenons: Blue monkey, De Brazza’s monkey, Diana monkey, Hamlyn’s monkey, Lesser Spot-nosed monkey, Mona monkey, Red-tailed monkey, Wolf’s guenon, Zanzibar Sykes monkey

    Howlers: Black, Bolivian Red, Brown, Guatemalan Black/Guatemalan Mantled

    Lemurs: Aye-Aye, Black, Black & White Ruffed, Blue-eyed Black, Collared Brown (red-collared brown), Common Brown, Crowned, Coquerel’s Sifaka, Eastern Lesser Bamboo (grey gentle), Fat-tailed Dwarf, Grey Mouse (lesser mouse), Mongoose, Red Ruffed, Red-bellied, Ring-tailed, White-fronted Brown (white-fronted)

    Lorises: Potto, Pygmy Slow loris, Red Slender (slender) loris, Sunda Slow (slow) loris

    Lutungs: Dusky leaf monkey, Francois’ langur, Javan lutung, Silvery lutung

    Macaques: Assam, Barbary (barbary ape), Bonnet, Crab-eating, Formosan Rock (Taiwan), Japanese, Lion-tailed, Pig-tailed, Rhesus, Stump-tailed, Sulawesi Crested, Tonkean

    Mangabeys: Agile, Black Crested (black), Golden-bellied, Red-capped

    Marmosets: Black-tufted (black-eared), Buffy-tufted (white-eared), Common, Geoffroy’s (white-fronted), Goeldi’s, Pygmy, Wied’s (black tufted-ear)

    Night Monkeys: Azara’s, Black-headed, Gray-bellied, Gray-handed, Nancy Ma’s, Spix’s, Three-striped

    Spider & Woolly monkeys: Black-headed spider monkey, Brown spider monkey, Brown woolly, Geoffroy’s (black-handed) spider monkey, Long-haired/White-bellied spider monkey, Peruvian (black) spider monkey, Red-faced spider monkey, Southern Muriqui (woolly spider)

    Tamarins: Black (golden-rumped), Cottontop, Emperor, Geoffroy’s, Golden Lion, Golden-headed, Pied (bare-faced), Red-handed, Saddle-back

    Titis & Sakis: Atlantic titi, Coppery titi, Red-backed Bearded saki, Red-bellied (dusky) titi, White-eared (reed) titi, White-faced saki

    Others: Allen’s Swamp monkey, Angolan Talapoin, Drill, Crested Mona monkey (crowned guenon), Gelada, Grivet, Javan Surili, Mandrill, Northern Plains Gray langur/Sacred langur, Patas monkey, Vervet
     
  8. RatioTile

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    Wow, thanks for doing that! I didn't know there were Muriquis outside Brazil. Where are they? Also, I'd like to know about the whereabouts of the following:

    Howler monkeys besides Black
    Javan Surili
    Blue Monkey
    Night Monkeys besides Azara and Three-striped
    Atlantic Titi, Coppery Titi, Red-bellied Titi (I usually only see Bolivian Gray Titi)
    Crested Mona Monkey
     
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  9. Pepe

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    The confusion is the wrong name. It is Gray's Crowned Guenon, named after a person and not a colour!
     
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    I do not think that there are Muriquis, red bellied titi's, atlantic titi's, golden backed squirrel monkeys in the US, and several other species on list can also not be found in US zoos. The USDA has probably little knowledge of monkey taxonomy!
     
  11. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Yeah the USDA lists are as good as useless. I found one of their reports a while ago and posted a link to it thinking it would be useful to people in the USA, but it turned out that the number of wrong identifications by the inspectors made it worthless. It seems like the inspectors just guess at what the animals are.

    Link to the thread I made here: Zoo species lists from USDA inspection reports
     
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  12. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    There are definitely no captive Muriquis of either the Southern or Northern species in the US or indeed anywhere outside of a handful of zoos and private breeding centres all located within Brazil.
     
  13. TinoPup

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    They're really not as bad as you've been making them out to be. I've spent the last two months going through every single recent inspection of "active" exhibitors. For felids, my species list has 2,150 entries, all of which are confirmed and almost all of which include USDA inspection reports (except for a few places that don't have them). I found a total of ONE incorrect species ID, and it was a ssp of one species being mistaken for a very similar looking other species in a nearby region.

    It isn't just inspectors "guessing". Their IDs mostly come from what the zoo employee tells them. IDs can trace back even further; for example, if a facility purchases an animal from a dealer and they're told it's X species.

    There are certainly mistakes, which is why the species posts I've been doing are confirmed in multiple places (usda + website, social media etc photo, news article, or contact with the location if a photo isn't found) and I note where I haven't, like here. I wouldn't do a list of rodent species, for example, because they're much harder to ID properly and rare mentioned on websites and media.
     
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    THESE HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. Again, the best way to do that is often to look through social media for photos. Also try contacting places and asking for confirmation and/or photos to confirm yourself.

    Bolivian red howler: Dallas World Aquarium
    Brown howler: Living Treasures II in Donegal PA, Vogel's Exotics in Brainerd MN
    Guatemalan black howler: Gladys Porter Zoo in Brownsville, TX

    Javan surili: The Wild Animal Park in Chittenango, NY

    Blue monkey: Knoxville Zoo, Pittsburgh Zoo, Kansas City Zoo, Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo

    Black-headed night monkey: Cohanzick Zoo in Bridgeton, NJ
    Gray-bellied night monkey: Bright's Zoo in Limestone TN, Memphis Zoo, Metro Richmond Zoo in VA
    Gray-handed night monkey: Mesker Park Zoo in Evansville IN, Capron Park Zoo in Attleboro MA
    Nancy Ma's night monkey: Lupa Game Farm in Ludlow MA, Audubon Nature Institute in LA
    Spix's night monkey: Animal Ambassadors in Walhalla SC

    Atlantic titi: Giraffe Ranch in Dade City FL
    Coppery titi: Denver Zoo, Metro Richmond Zoo in VA (I've seen in person), Alabama Gulf Coast Zoo, Monkey Jungle in Miami FL, Santa Ana Zoo in CA
    Red-bellied titi: LEO in CT, which has closed; they still had the animals as of last September (along with some slow loris and llamas), no idea if they'll relocate or not

    Crested mona monkey: Cincinnati

    Golden-backed squirrel monkey: Virginia Safari Park, Creation Kingdom Zoo in VA, Pymatuning Deer Park in PA, Wowee Wildlife in NY, Adirondack Game Farm in NY, Topsey Exotic Ranch in TX, formerly at LEO in CT
     
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    DWA houses Venezuelan Red Howlers.
    I can confirm these two as well.
    And if these are the Gray's Wolf Guenon/Crowned Guenon, then yes. This is confirmed.


    That's all that I would know :). Impressive list @TinoPup!
     
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    With the howler, that would be a discrepancy like the one I mentioned that I found with felid species - two very similar species from nearby regions :)

    Yep, Crested Mona is same as Crowned Guenon, and a bunch of other names.
     
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    I have seen Assam macaque at Tregembo Animal Park in North Carolina
     
  18. Chlidonias

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    Cats aren't really a good example though - there are only a handful of commonly-kept species (maybe 15 or 20?) and they are all easy to identify and most are unlikely to be listed incorrectly. Your list of monkeys clearly shows that isn't the case for other groups. From the report I posted in the other thread, from just one state there were species like Lumholtz's Tree Kangaroo and Chousingha. If you know for a fact that certain species are wrong (especially when they are so very obviously wrong), then no other species in the lists can be trusted to be accurate either. The very fact that every listed species needs to be independently verified doesn't make the list very useful from my perspective.

    Imagine if someone posted a lot of zoo lists on Zoochat but always added in a bunch of random false species, and so you had no idea which species on the list were really at the zoo without literally looking up every single species yourself on other sources. To me, that person's lists would all be as good as useless because nothing on them could be trusted to be accurate.
     
  19. ThylacineAlive

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    Bronx, Omaha, and Duke are the three holders of Grey Mouse Lemur in the US.

    1.1 Eastern Bamboo Lemur remain at Duke, but both are in their mid-20s.

    ~Thylo
     
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    For my personal knowledge, does someone could tell me what is the approximate population of golden-bellied mangabey in America, or at least which zoos have them? I know that some founders from the Eaza population are coming from Aza zoos.