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Most exotic animals seen on the pet trade

Discussion in 'Private Collections & Pets' started by animalszoos, 19 Mar 2017.

  1. DelacoursLangur

    DelacoursLangur Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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  2. ThylacineAlive

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    Given it's a CITES I sifaka they're advertising, and sifaka are not kept in the private trade, I'd suggest it's very much illegitimate--and if it is legitimate, very much illegal.

    ~Thylo
     
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    That's a lot of money for something that isn't very uncommon.
     
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    It's more uncommon than most people realize. A few years ago I heard there were only about 30 albino American Alligators worldwide. They just seem more common because they are all on public display at different collections!
     
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  6. DelacoursLangur

    DelacoursLangur Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I think their must be someone breeding them regularly now as more and more zoos seem to be getting them. Give it a few years and they will be at every reptile expo in the states...
     
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    I remember when I read that there was a reason given for why they are so rare - I will have to see what I can find.
     
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    I just saw a pair of Edward's Pheasants for sale. I had no idea no idea they were in the private trade! And very cheap, too. A pair was listed at about $75, which is less than half the price of a single Cockatiel at my local Petco!
     
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    The same site listed a Montezuma Quail for sale - another species I had no idea was in the private trade - for $1!
     
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    softbillsforsale.net. It's run by the same people as exoticanimalsforsale, except the listings are all for birds.
     
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    I found the listing. There is a wide variety in prices on this site: $1 for Montezuma, $10 for Gambel's and $100 for Benson. I can't help wondering if and how market prices are being determined for these birds.
     
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    Didn't notice the Benson! I had no idea that species was in the US, either!
     
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    I have a pair of Edwards pheasants.

    Also those prices cant be right, Bensons and montezuma quail are still going for hundreds of dollars a pair.
     
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    I've seen lots of odd quails and pheasants listed for sale in the US. Subspecies-level Kalij, Silver, and Copper for instance. Green and Grey Junglefowl and various peacock-pheasant species as well. I've even seen some partridges and grouse listed before.

    Omaha has Benson's Quails, though they were frustratingly off-exhibit during my visit due to Burrowing Owl chicks being in the aviary.

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    A friend of mine kept and bred them for a few years. Some avicultural organisations have well-developed breeding programs with members keeping a multitude of species that few zoos have.

    Many "rare-in-zoo" species of waterfowl and gamebirds (as well as pigeons, songbirds and so on) are not only easy to acquire but also reasonably easy to breed and maintain as soon as zoos actually invest in those birds. Sadly, I've met more than one zoo person that sees every single pigeon, duck, goose, quail or pheasant as living decoration at best and fancy carnivore food at worst. The situation with inverts is even more dire.

    Perhaps if we moved these creatures to the front stage we could have meaningful improvement. But as long as zoos rather rebuild a decent tiger enclosure five times over before finally renovating (or more likely: replacing) a sub-standard pheasant aviary, I fear that it will never happen.
     
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    Over US$150 for a cockatiel? That can't be right.
     
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    It's true... my local Petco sells hand-raised cockatiels for about US$220 each.
     
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    I've never had an interest in owning a Cockatiel, so I've never paid attention to their price, but I'm also surprised to see how expensive they are! The cheapest one I could find online was listed for $85, though all others were $100 or over. The most expensive I found was listed for nearly $300!! The most common prices I found were between $150-250.

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  20. Great Argus

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    I'm not sure why they're so much more expensive than budgies, cockatiels are still pretty common. Most budgies I see are $20-30, far less expensive.
     
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