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Native Birds in Australian Zoos

Discussion in 'Australia' started by aves2003, 26 Jun 2020.

  1. aves2003

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    I've been looking over the threads regarding the status' of mammals, birds and reptiles in Australian zoos for a while now but I was just wondering if there is any native birds list?

    I know it would be a huge undertaking but even if it was just focused on the rarer species I still think it could be a really good insight into the captive populations whilst opening up some conversations regarding captive breeding programs for threatened species with little to no representation in captivity (red goshawk, grey falcon, alberts lyrebird etc)

    Let me know if this has already been done
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    No, there isn't a native birds list for Australia. The lists for exotic animals are "relatively" easy to do because the number of species is pretty restricted and therefore straightforward to compile, and the majority of species are held largely in ZAA collections. But even in the exotic bird list for Australia, many of the groups (the parrots and "finches" in particular) are just naked lists of species because there is no way of knowing which little bird collections hold which species, or even which species are kept in any public collections (as opposed to just in private aviculture).

    With regards to native Australian species there are large numbers of non-ZAA private wildlife parks all around the country for which there is no good way of compiling the data. This is why the native Australian mammal list has just been done as categories (e.g. "rare" or "common") because it is basically impossible to list all the collections which hold Eastern Grey Kangaroos or whatever. There are also no lists for native Australian reptiles or amphibians for this exact reason. It wouldn't be impossible to do it, but they would be ridiculously incomplete and kind of useless.

    For New Zealand the situation with listing native birds is much easier because there are relatively few native species, of which an even smaller number are held in captivity, and almost all species need DOC permits to be held. This isn't the case in Australia where there are something like 700 native species (and apparently about 45% of those are endemic to Australia), and loads of native species are kept in private aviculture. The reason I never did an Australian native bird list is because it would just be a list of species - many of which would only "probably" be held somewhere - and with no usable information except for a few select species
     
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    I thought that would be the case. I think the main thing wanted to know about were the rarer species in captivity, those that are in small numbers or even just singular specimens like the grey falcon. Thanks for the reply anyways!
     
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  4. MRJ

    MRJ Well-Known Member 15+ year member Premium Member

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    I can tell you Moonlit Sanctuary has a pair of grey goshawks, not falcons I grant you but rare in captivity nether less.
     
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    I won’t be able to get a comprehensive list but I’ll do what I can
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    It might take me over a week and I’ll be missing plenty of birds from zoos.

    My cutoff date for data collected is 1st of Jan 2019 and I’ll be using the following ways to get information.

    Zoochat Gallery
    Zoo Facebook pages (and other social media)
    Personal photos and experiences (in the date of course)
    Input from other Australian Zoochaters.
     
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    Don’t Phillip island wildlife park also have a pair of grey goshawks?
     
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    To help you on your way here is the list of species currently at Moonlit Sanctuary:

    Emu
    Australian shelduck (eight other species of waterfowl normally present are wild)
    Bush stone-curlew
    Pied stilt
    Wedge-tailed eagle
    Grey goshawk
    Peregrine falcon
    Barn owl
    Barking owl
    Tawny frogmouth
    Owlet nightjar
    Sacred kingfisher
    Major Mitchell’s cockatoo
    Sulphur-crested cockatoo
    Gang-gang cockatoo
    Yellow-tailed black cockatoo
    Red-tailed black cockatoo
    Eclectus parrot
    Swift parrot
    Superb parrot
    Australian king parrot
    Orange-bellied parrot
    Rainbow lorikeet
    Regent honeyeater
    Helmeted honeyeater
    Satin bowerbird
    White-browed woodswallow
    Eastern whipbird
    Zebra finch
     
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    Thanks for your help @MRJ I had most of these species down although I was shocked to see peregrine falcons on there.
     
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    MRJ Well-Known Member 15+ year member Premium Member

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    That is far for all I forgot so much more enbassesment - all correct now. Never had green catbirds, maybe you were mistaking a female satin bowerbird. Banded lapwings have all left the collection.
     
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    I’m certain it was a green catbird around where the rainbow lorikeet was held.
     
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    Also while I’m at it I’ll post a progress report on the list.

    Its been going well with the help of many other members it should hopefully be at a point in two weeks where have found every species in Australian zoos, although listing holders of certain species will never be complete and will have to be continually updated with more research poured in.
     
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    No sorry that was a female satin bowerbird.
     
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    They do look quite similar, fair enough!, I still remember it as a green catbird but it’s probably my imagination playing up. :eek:
     
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    Would it perhaps be easier to make a list of native birds that are t kept in captivity.

    I feel like that would be a shorter list than native species that are kept in captivity.
     
  17. MRJ

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    If talking about parrots and finches certainly but beyond that...

    in any case that is mostly the avicultural community. Zoos don’t display many finches and the days of long lines of aviaries with comprehensive parrot collections has past. There are 733 or so resident species in Australia and while I imagine this list might get to 10% I wonder how much further it will go.
     
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    And of course I forgot kookaburra
     
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    Hi Yoshistar888,
    As requested here is my list of native birds sighted at Halls Gap Zoo on my 2 visits. 26 Oct 2019 and 05 June 2020. I have based this list from Photos taken of signage / birds and exhibits. I may have missed some enclosures so can't be 100% certain I have everything. (Species name has been transcribed from photo of signage)
    Australian Bustard Ardeotis Kori
    Australian Wood Duck Chenonetta jubata
    Barn Owl
    Black Swan Cygnus atratus
    Black-winged Stilt Himantopus himantopus leucocephalus
    Brolga Grus rubicunda
    Bush Stone-curlew Burhinus grallarius
    Cape Barren Goose
    Diamond Firetail Finch Stagonopleura guttata
    Eclectus Parrot Eclectus rerafus
    Emu
    Galah
    Major Mitchell's Cockatoo
    Nankeen (Australian) Kestrel Falco cenchroides
    Orange-bellied Parrot Neophema chrysogaster
    Pacific Black Duck Anas superciliosa
    Plumed Whistling-Duck Dendrocygna eytoni
    Rainbow Lorikeet Trichoglossus haematadus
    Red-tailed Black Cockatoo Calyptorhynchus banksii samueli
    Rose-crowned Fruit-dove
    Southern Boobook
    Southern Cassowary Casuarius casuarius johnsonii
    Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
    Tawny Frogmouth
    Wedge-tailed Eagle Aquila audax
    White-browed Woodswallow Artaimus superciliosus
    Wild Budgerigar Melopsittacus undulates
    Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoo Calyptorhynchus funereus

    The Following Native Birds were sighted at Ballarat Wildlife Park on my visit 16 June 2020
    Eclectus Parrot Eclectus raratus
    Eastern Whipbird Psophodes olivaceus
    Noisy Pitta Pitta versicolour
    Emu
    Little Blue Penguin Eudyptula minor
    Red-Tailed Black Cockatoo
    Southern Cassowary
    Unfortunately I didn't spend any time looking at the water birds on the lake - so I can't confirm if any birds are maintained onsite or if they are just free flying wild birds.

    From my visit to Mogo Zoo - I can confirm that they do not keep any native birds.

    I can look at my Melbourne Zoo Photos for you if you would like.
     
  20. Yoshistar888

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    What a legend, I’ve already got data from Melbourne Zoo so I don’t need anything there.

    Thanks a ton @kiwimuzz
     
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