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North American Clouded Leopard Population

Discussion in 'North America - General' started by Jungle Man, 4 Mar 2020.

  1. MidwestFan

    MidwestFan Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Didn't the Minnesota Zoo used to have a successful breeding program for this species? Do they no longer exhibit the species?
     
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    The Bronx Zoo should have 1.0 bts, though I don't know any information about this individual.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Wow, existing trees. I guess you could call that a natural exhibit. As in what nature provided and nothing else.....

    I suspected the non-AZA facilities had to be participating. Whether it's a good idea for the animal or not, all these animals that can not breed because of the behavioral issue @Coelacanth18 explained might as well be spread around as ambassador animals. A non-AZA breeding candidate may emerge from one of these dives, er facilities, and that's probably the real reason for the policy. They really need more cats.
     
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    They do not currently have any Clouded Leopards. I don't know the last time they did but it has to have been at least 8 years ago.
     
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    Yes! Just the other day, I saw a picture of one on some Bronx ad or member message and did a double take. They have snow leopards, and I was looking for the white chest, but this (head only) shot seemed to be a clouded. I've never seen it on exhibit, but maybe it was trained as a tame ambassador animal somewhere and is used for that purpose. All the animals we can find little about seem to end up being there.
     
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    Yes! Just the other day, I saw a picture of one on some Bronx ad or member message and did a double take. They have snow leopards, and I was looking for the white chest, but this (head only) shot seemed to be a clouded. I've never seen it on exhibit, but maybe it was trained as a tame ambassador animal somewhere and is used for that purpose. All the animals we can find little about seem to end up being in the Education Building.
     
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    Heritage Park getting clouded leopards from Zoo Miami doesn't necessarily mean they are participating in a breeding program, although they might be; the animals could have been surplus to the breeding population. It is plausible that the zoo population is at or near holding capacity; given that they wouldn't want to curtail breeding or euthanize animals to make space, the only other short-term option is to send surplus animals to whatever facilities make space for them.

    Training animals for ambassador/educational purposes is also something that is normally done at an early age. Additionally, I do not understand why you think animals with behavioral issues should be used as ambassadors if it's not a good idea for the animal.

    What policy are you referring to?
     
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    Cat Haven does indeed have 1.1 clouded leopard (they just haven't added them to their new website yet). The name of one of them is Mushu, since they just posted its birthday on their Facebook page. I don't know if it's the male or female. I am virtually certain both are from Tanganyika.
     
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    When I mentioned that it might be a good idea to send these non-breeders to serve as ambassador animals, I didn't mean in education programs, which would indeed require special training from a young age. I just meant they could be ambassadors of their species in educating the public. Only in my post about the Bronx was I referring to an actual Ambassador Program in an education department.

    For lack of a better term to summarize your explanation of clouded leopards being unsuccessful in breeding if certain newly-discovered circumstances aren't put in place, I used "behavioral problems," as in breeding-behavior-specific problems. I wouldn't recommend anything that isn't good for the animal, unless, possibly, the only option is euthanasia.

    By policy, I was referring to the Asian elephant SSP working with non-members to help conserve the species. Animals like Hank from Riddles' Animal Sanctuary who was loaned to the Columbus Zoo could serve critical breeding functions in a population in which number and genetic diversity of mature males is a challenge. The clouded leopard situation would seem to be an even bigger challenge.

    Sorry, all. My brain must have been full of rocks when I wrote my previous post.
     
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    I'm not sure if they have cheetahs, but would very much like to know. Roer's Safari has two cheetahs, though, with probably the nicest exhibit in the place, so I don't think they'd send them off. They came from Richmond (which employees didn't know); they were fairly young when they arrived and there was a naming contest, which I learned about while talking to a visitor (their names are Fuli and Dash; in the studbook they are Dakari and Zuberi). The employees usually don't know animals are going to be heading to AZ or what's going on. There are no signs in the zoo indicating that species have left and they don't even bother putting black tape or something over their names on the big display map, I had to ask about all of the missing species that were on the website and map, which is how I learned the cloudeds and fishing cats went to R Lazy J.

    Edit: R Lazy J is only 2 or 3 years old. According to the 2018 studbook, released Dec 2019, they don't have cheetahs, but that's as of a year and a half ago.
     
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    You've built a nice resource here, @Jungle Man!
     
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    It's really great when someone does the legwork for a species list like this, and then forum members reach out to make it even more accurate and comprehensive. And look! The population has increased by 6 in three days, 94 clouded leopards in the US!
     
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    Confirmed no cheetahs in AZ, and no plans to add them currently.
     
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    Denver has four? I only ever see the same one (Taji), and that's rare even. Of course they still list Amur leopards on their site, and he's been off exhibit for months.
     
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    Sheegwa at Cincinnati Zoo was born at Nashville Zoo in the year 2003.
     
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    Update:

    There are currently 42.59 clouded leopads in captivity around North America ( probably more) as of April 2020.

    The list of sources is as follow:
    Clouded Leopards
    Clouded Leopard | San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants
    Clouded leopards at Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium Asian Forest Sanctuary
    Cute emergency: Central Florida says bye-bye to its clouded leopard cub
    Pittsburgh Zoo announces names of clouded leopard cubs
    OKC ZOO WELCOMES CLOUDED LEOPARD CUBS TO CAT FOREST HABITAT
    News-Pittsburgh-Zoo-Introduces-New-Clouded-Leopard-Cub | Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium
    Meet Kali the Clouded Leopard from Wildlife World Zoo
    First Ever Clouded Leopard Cubs Debut at the Smithsonian's National Zoo

    The institutions are organized by country, then state and then city.
    Smithsonian's National Zoo-Washington,D.C,USA
    1.0 Paitoon (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Jillian (Niran x Ron) 2019-3-24
    0.1 Mook 2002-00-00

    San Diego Zoo - San Diego,California,USA
    1.0 Haui-San 2012-8-25
    0.1 Kya 00-00-00
    0.1 Ganda 00.00.00

    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium - Tacoma,Washington,USA
    0.1 Orchid (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Banyan (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Tien (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2013-5-1
    0.1 Jao Ying (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 2007-5-30
    1.0 Nah Fun (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 2009-7-15
    0.1 Sang Dao (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 2015-5-22
    0.1 Chai Li (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 2009-7-12
    1.0 Chee Wit (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2010-2-14

    Little Rock Zoo - Little Rock,Arkansas,USA
    1.0 Rama 00-00-00
    0.1 Suri 00-00-00

    Central Florida Zoo & Botanical Gardens -Orlando,Florida,USA
    1.0 Cirrus (Sita x Ta Moon) 3-28-2011
    0.1 Nimbus (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 6-14-2011

    Naples Zoo -Naples,Florida,USA
    1.0 Masala (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    0.1 Tika 00-00-00
    0.1 Jean (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22
    0.1 Janet (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22

    Exotic Feline Breeding Compound - Rosamond,California,USA
    0.1 Kyoke 2011-3-12

    ZooTampa at Lowry Park -Tampa,Florida,USA
    1.0 Yim 00-00-00
    0.1 Malee 00-00-00
    1.0 Shigu (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29
    0.1 Aiya (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29

    Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium - Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,USA
    1.0 Pi (Lisu x Taji) 2014-3-4
    0.1 Saya 2014-4-10
    1.0 Gale (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27
    1.0 Lynn (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27

    Oklahoma City Zoo - Oklahoma City,Oklahoma,USA
    1.0 JD (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Rukai (Saya x Pi) 2019-3-14

    Zoo Miami - Miami,Florida,USA
    0.1 Serai (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2011-5-13
    1.0 Rajasi 2011-00-00

    Brookfield Zoo -Chicago,Illinois,USA
    1.0 Dongwa 00-00-00
    0.1 Sky 00-00-00

    Gulf Breeze Zoo -Gulf Breeze,Florida,USA
    1.0 Harry 00-00-00
    0.1 Ping 00-00-00

    ZooAtlanta -Atlanta,Georgia,USA
    0.1 Suhana (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9

    Mesker Park Zoo- Evansville,Indiana,USA
    0.1 Miri 00-00-00

    Cincinnati Zoo -Cincinnati,Ohio,USA
    0.1 Sheegwa (Nashville Zoo) 00-00-2003

    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium -Columbus,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Beau 00-00-00
    0.1 Stassi 00-00-00

    Houston Zoo -Houston,Texas,USA
    1.0 Tarak
    0.1 Suksn (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2012-3-6
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12

    Ellen Trout Zoo -Lufkin,Texas,USA
    1.0 Indy 00-00-00
    0.1 Saffron (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    1.0 Jye (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27
    0.1 Raurava (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27

    Cleveland´s Metroparks Zoo -Cleveland,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Ryker 00-00-00

    Nashville Zoo -Nashville,Tennessee,USA
    1.0 Kuso 2017-3-11
    0.1 River 00-00-00
    0.1 Niran (Tula x Hannibal) 2017-3-1 ( first clouded leopard cub to be born by AI)
    1.0 Ron 00-00-00
    0.1 Lom Choy (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 00-00-00
    1.0 Luk (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-00-00
    1.0 Arun (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 00-00-00
    0.1 Jing Jai (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 00-00-00
    0.1 Baylie (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-6-9
    0.1 Kali (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2

    Tanganyika Wildlife Park -Wichita,Kansas,USA
    0.1 Moana 00-00-00
    0.1 Belle 00-00-00
    0.1 Aurora 00-00-00
    0.1 Mulan 00-00-00
    1.0 Kapok (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Elliot 00-00-00
    0.1 Maxie 00-00-00
    1.0 Teak (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    0.1 Piper 00-00-00
    0.1 Crystal 00-00-00
    0.1 Kansas 00-00-00

    Smithsonian´s Conservation Biology Institute -Front Royal,Virginia,USA
    0.1 Jao Chu (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 00-00-00
    1.0 Hannibal (Khao Khew Open Zoo) 00-00-00
    0.1 Sita (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-5-30
    1.0 Ta Moon (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24
    1.0 Sa Ming (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24

    Denver Zoo -Denver,Colorado,USA
    0.1 Lisu 2011-00-00
    1.0 Taji (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2011-6-14
    0.1 Maddie 00-00-00
    0.1 Tenchi 00-00-00

    Wildlife World Zoo,Aquarium & Safari Park -Phoenix,Arizona,USA
    0.1 Kali 00-00-00

    Toronto Zoo -Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    1.0 Mingma (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2
    0.1 Pavarti (Lom Choy x Luk) 2013-4-30

    Safari Niagara -Fort Erie,Ontario,Canada
    0.1 Levy (Mingma x Pavarti) 2017-5-13

    Heritage Park Zoo - Prescott,Arizona,USA
    0.1 Suree (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9
    0.1 Malee (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9

    Panther Ridge Conservation Center - Loxahatchee,Florida,USA
    1.0 Drupata (Lom Choy x Luk) 2-13-2012
    0.1 Suki 00-00-00
    0.1 Tula (Jing Jai x Arun) 3-11-2012
    0.1 Nuri (SCBI) 3-8-2012
    0.1 Lura (Drupata x Tula,Nuri) 3-5-2018
    0.1 Malee (Drupata x Tula,Nuri) 5-30-2018
    1.0 Taj 3-28-2018

    Living Planet Aquarium - Draper,Utah,USA
    1.0 Koshi (Tarak x Suksn) 2014-6-6
    0.1 Rhu (Lisu x Taji) 2014-3-14

    Bronx Zoo - New York City,New York,USA
    1.0 00-00-00

    R Lazy J Wildlife Ranch - Eagar,Arizona,USA
    1.0 Pebbles 00-00-00
    0.1 Bam Bam 00-00-00


    PD: If you know any information about them or about the existence of more clouded leopards in North America not listed here please tell me to post it. If I have any mistake please correct me.
     
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