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  1. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Wasn't Ben Stiller in 'Meet the Quokkas'?
     
  2. Breckenridge

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    There's a treasure trove of these in the 1709 book A New Voyage to Carolina by John Lawson. Some of them are easier to figure out than others.

    The Beasts of Carolina are the

    Buffelo, or wild Beef.
    Bear.
    Panther.
    Cat-a-mount.
    Wild Cat.
    Wolf.
    Tyger.
    Polcat.
    Otter.
    Bever.
    Musk-Rat.
    Possum.
    Raccoon.
    Minx.
    Water-Rat.
    Rabbet, two sorts.
    Elks.
    Stags.
    Fallow-Deer.
    Squirrel, four sorts.
    Fox.
    Lion, and Jackall on the Lake.
    Rats, two sorts.
    Mice, two sorts.
    Moles.
    Weasel, Dormouse.
    Bearmouse.


    Insects* of Carolina

    Allegators
    Rattle-Snakes
    Ground Rattle-Snakes
    Horn-Snakes
    Water-Snakes, four sorts
    Swamp Snakes, three sorts
    Red-bellied Land-Snakes
    Red-back'd Snake
    Black Truncheon Snake
    Scorpion-Lizard
    Green Lizard
    Frogs, many sorts
    Long black Snake
    King-Snake
    Green Snake
    Corn Snake
    Vipers black and gray
    Tortois
    Terebin Land and Water
    Brimstone-Snake
    Egg, or Chicken-Snake
    Eel-Snake, or great Loach
    Brown Lizard
    Rotten-wood Worm, & c.


    * For some unexplained reason, Lawson classified Reptiles and Amphibians as Insects.

    Birds of Carolina

    Eagle bald
    Eagle gray
    Fishing Hawk
    Turkey Buzzard, or Vulture
    Herring-tail'd Hawk
    Goshawk
    Falcon
    Merlin
    Sparrow-hawk
    Hobby
    Jay
    Green Plover
    Plover gray or whistling
    Pigeon
    Turtle Dove
    Parrakeeto
    Ring-Tail
    Raven
    Crow
    Black Birds, two sorts
    Buntings, two sorts
    Pheasant
    Woodcock
    Snipe
    Partridge
    Moorhen
    Red Bird
    East-India Bat
    Martins, two sorts
    Diveling, or Swift
    Swallow
    Humming Bird
    Thrush
    Wood-Peckers, five sorts
    Mocking-birds, two sorts
    Cat-Bird
    Cuckoo
    Blue-Bird
    Bulfinch
    Nightingale
    Hedge-Sparrow
    Wren
    Sparrows, two sorts
    Lark
    The Tom-Tit, or Ox-Eye
    Owls, two sorts
    Scritch Owl
    Baltimore bird
    Throstle, no Singer
    Whippoo Will
    Reed Sparrow
    Weet bird
    Rice bird
    Cranes and Storks
    Snow-birds
    Yellow-wings

    Water Fowl are,

    Water Fowl.
    Swans, called Trompeters
    Swans, called Hoopers
    Geese, three sorts
    Brant gray
    Brant white
    Sea-pies or pied Curlues
    Will Willets
    Great Gray Gulls
    Old Wives
    Sea Cock
    Curlues, three sorts
    Coots
    Kings-fisher
    Loons, two sorts
    Bitterns, three sorts
    Hern gray
    Hern white
    Water Pheasant
    Little gray Gull
    Little fisher, or Dipper
    Gannet
    Shear-water
    Great black pied Gull
    Marsh-hens
    Blue Peter's
    Sand-birds
    Runners
    Ducks, as in England
    Ducks black, all Summer
    Ducks pied, build on Trees
    Ducks whistling, at Sapona
    Ducks scarlet-eye, at Esaw
    Blue-wings
    Widgeons
    Teal, two sorts
    Shovelers
    Whisslers
    Black Flusterers, or bald Coot
    Turkeys wild
    Fishermen
    Divers
    Raft Fowl
    Bull-Necks
    Redheads
    Tropick-birds
    Pellican
    Cormorant
    Tutcocks
    Swaddle-bills
    Men [mew]
    Sheldrakes
    Bald Faces
    Water Witch, or Ware Coot

    Fish of Carolina

    The Fish in the salt, and fresh Waters of Carolina, are,
    Whales, several sorts
    Thrashers
    Divel-Fish
    Sword-Fish
    Crampois
    [grampus]
    Bottle-Noses [dolphins]
    Porpoises
    Sharks, two sorts
    Dog-Fish
    Spanish-Mackarel
    Mullets
    Shad
    Fat-Backs
    Guard, white
    Guard, green
    Scate or Stingray
    Thornback
    Congar-Eels
    Lamprey-Eels
    Eels
    Cavallies
    Boneto's
    Blue-Fish
    Drum, red
    Drum-Fish, black
    Angel-Fish
    Bass, or Rock-Fish
    Sheeps-Heads
    Plaice
    Flounder
    Soles
    Sun-Fish
    Toad-Fish
    Sea-Tench
    Trouts of the Salt Water
    Crocus
    [croaker]
    Herring
    Smelts
    Shads
    Breams
    Taylors

    Fresh-Water Fish are,

    Sturgeon
    Pike
    Trouts
    Gudgeon
    Pearch English
    Pearch, white
    Pearch, brown, or Welch-men
    Pearch, flat, and mottled, or Irishmen
    Pearch small and flat, with red Spots, call'd round Robins
    Carp
    Roach
    Dace
    Loaches
    Sucking-Fish
    Cat-Fish
    Grindals
    Old-Wives
    Fountain-Fish
    White-Fish

    The Shell-Fish are,

    Large Crabs, call'd Stone-Crabs
    Smaller flat Crabs
    Oysters great and small
    Cockles
    Clams
    Muscles
    Conks
    Skellop
    [scallop]
    Man of Noses
    Periwinkles, or Wilks
    Sea-Snail-Horns
    Fidlars
    Runners
    Spanish or Pearl-Oysters
    Flattings
    Tortois and Terebin, accounted for among the Insects
    Finger-Fish
    [star fish]
    Shrimps

    Fresh Water

    Craw-Fish
    Muscles
     
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  3. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Could you put down the modern name for each of these animals?
     
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  4. Breckenridge

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    These are the ones that I could figure out.

    Buffelo, or wild Beef. [Bison]
    Panther, Cat-a-mount. [Cougar]
    Tyger. [Cougar?]
    Wild Cat. [Bobcat]
    Polcat. [Skunk]
    Stags, Fallow-Deer. [White-tailed deer]
    Lion, and Jackall on the Lake. [Local rumors about lion and dog-like creatures that stalk a remote lake]
    Bearmouse/Rearmouse. [Bat]
    Scorpion-Lizard [Skink?]
    Green Lizard/Brown Lizard [Carolina anole]
    Long black Snake/ Egg, or Chicken-Snake [Rat snake]
    Vipers black and gray [Cottonmouth and Copperhead]
    Tortois [Sea turtles]
    Terebin Land and Water [Terrapins and Tortoises]
    Brimstone-Snake [Glass lizard]
    Rotten-wood Worm, & c. [Worm snake]
    Fishing Hawk [Osprey]
    Turtle Dove [Mourning dove]
    Parrakeeto [Carolina parakeet]
    Pheasant [Grouse?]
    Partridge [Bobwhite]
    Red Bird [Cardinal]
    Brant white [Snow goose]
    Hern gray [Great blue heron]
    Hern white [Great white egret]
    Ducks pied, build on Trees/Fishermen [Hooded merganser?]
    Ducks scarlet-eye, at Esaw [Wood duck]
    Blue-wings [Blue-winged teal]
    Men [mew]
    Divel-Fish [Manta ray]
    Crampois [Grampus]
    Bottle-Noses [Dolphin]
    Crocus [croaker]
    Skellop [scallop]
    Fidlars [Fiddler crab]
    Finger-Fish [star fish]
     
  5. FBBird

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    Could Turtle Dove not have been Passenger Pigeon?
     
  6. Breckenridge

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    I had forgotten about Passenger pigeons but I think that Pigeon is referring to them since Turtle dove was another old name for the Mourning dove.
     
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  7. Cassidy Casuar

    Cassidy Casuar Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    I don't know whether or not this is a common mistranslation, but I have a Japanese textbook which says that the Japanese word, suppon, means, 'snapping turtle; terrapin'. Never mind the implication that snapping turtles and terrapins are the same animal; suppon is actually the Japanese name of the Chinese softshell turtle!
     
  8. Junklekitteb

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    The Book of Indian Animals from 1971 I believe has some interesting ones. Sorry if any have already been mentioned.

    Hunting Leopard= Cheetah
    Tiger Civet= Spotted Linsang
    Toddy Cat= Common Palm Civet
    Cat-bear= Red Panda (used in preference to the other name)
    Antelope-rat= “Gerbille”
    Mole-rat= Bandicoot Rat
    Mouse-hare= Pika
    Indian Bison= Gaur
     
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    An early whale was called 'Basilosaurus' because scientists thought it was a lizard
     
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  10. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    But some of these names are still in use in India right?

    I have definitely seen fairly recent articles written by Indian conservationists about dhole populations that mentioned "Indian bison" because I remember thinking at the time "wtf is an Indian bison?" and then learning that it was another word for the gaur.
     
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    - When it was first discovered, the Sloth bear was naked "bear-sloth", as its discoverer thought it was a close relative of the extinct giant ground sloths of South America. Later, the name was changed once people realized it was a type of bear.
    - Another one is the Red-crested and red-capped cardinals, which are actually tanagers and aren't related to other cardinals.
     
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  12. Cassidy Casuar

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    The very wrong name of "Cape Pigeon" was applied to the Cape Petrel for a long time in New Zealand; I think that it only became unpopular in the late 20th century.
     
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    They have been a little closer related to true cardinals than currently. Grosbeak is another name spread across a few different families, as is tanager.
     
  14. birdsandbats

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    And how many families are called warbler now? Five, I think?
     
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    Something like that, too many! :p
     
  16. Cassidy Casuar

    Cassidy Casuar Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    Most New Zealanders insist on referring to the Grey Gerygone and Chatham Island Gerygone as "Warblers" in English.
     
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    Scientifically, the Spoon-billed sandpiper was originally described as the “Pygmy spoonbill”, and the Great Frigatebird as the “Least pelican”.
     
  18. Junklekitteb

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    I have seen/heard only the ‘toddy cat’ and ‘bison’ terms applied in common use, eg. on zoo signage.
     
  19. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    I find that reasonable.