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Discussion in 'Websites about Zoos & Animal Conservation' started by Chlidonias, 29 Jul 2014.

  1. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    There are no animal lists on the site, so it isn't one I'll be adding to this thread. There are about 300 zoos and aquariums listed on the website though, with reviews and photos from many of them. There is also a news page (in the double row of white tabs across the top of the page, the first tab in the second row is the one for news from Japanese collections).
     
  2. katinakalinakaterina

    katinakalinakaterina Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    How likely are you to get a response from Species360, I'm interested in Rhinos, Giraffes and Elephants (would probably have to pick a subspecies/species) as an area for a project on zoo record keeping for a master's degree at this stage I am just looking at options as I am not 100% committed to the idea and even then it would just be a proposal at first that may not even be approved. I am just wondering how feasible of an idea it would be looking at tracking how individuals are moved between collections.
     
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    aardvark250 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    JAZA has change their website. This is the new one.
    飼育動物検索 | 動物園と水族館
    It's still like the old one, with the green magnifying glass as searching by animals, and the orange map as searching by zoos. Just the website name has change.
     
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  4. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Thanks, I have changed the address in the list.
     
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    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I have some sad, sad news :(

    Global species has been closed down, so we no longer have access to past ZIMS files :(

    Also, although it doesn't matter any more, you could search by species on Global species, you just had to go to the front page of global species, press Animalia, etc. until you got to your animal (/search for it in the search bar) and further down the animal's page it would tell you what zoo held it. So it did work both ways... :)
     
  6. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    That's a shame, because it was nice to have those old records easily-available. However the old ISIS records (which are what were on Globalspecies) can still be accessed directly using the Wayback Machine.
     
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    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Begs the question if and when a replacement is publically available on-line for the up-to-date current ZIMS/Species 360 version. Asking not much ..... right?
     
  8. amur leopard

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    Does anyone know with any degree of reliability why exactly they made ZIMS no longer public?
    Seems counterintuitive, personally, but they must have their reasons...
     
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    I would assume it's to protect themselves from the animal activists. Certain people would collect information on animal deaths or statistics and use it for their own agenda, especially when they're followed by comments like "euthanised to make space for new bloodlines ect. ect.".
     
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    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Ah.... I understand now.... kinda.
     
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    MRJ Well-Known Member 15+ year member Premium Member

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    I would assume that is one consideration. Another is that the data does not actually belong to Species360, but each individual member. Thus it would require the approval of each and every one of the over 600 members to make the data public.
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Several US zoos threw a fit about the data being public because they felt it could be used "as a shopping list" for users to steal animals from them so they demanded ZIMS to be privatized or else they wouldn't participate.

    ~Thylo
     
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    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    The zoos in question being? (so that I never go to them (Just joking :D))
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Honestly I have no idea. I'm pretty sure one or two of them ended up not joining ZIMS regardless anyway, though, which makes the whole thing pointless to begin with.

    ~Thylo
     
  15. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I've split the topic of a proposed "American Zootierliste" to a previously-existing thread.

    Here: Zoo Inventory for NA?
     
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    I don't know how long but EARAZA has another website: earaza.ru. On the website you can find yearbooks with breeding results of all species in all affiliated zoos and also a list of kept species in those zoos with the number of animals. It is a lot of translation work if, like me, you cannot speak Russian, but you can still get useful information from it.

    A little late response to your post, but that has quite a good chance. They have a special e-mail address for this: [email protected]. There is a limit of 5 species reports a month per requestor. You get a list with the number of animals that is kept per zoo and of course only those of the zoos that are affiliated with species360.
     
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    I too wish GlobalSpecies was still here
     
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    Sadly, I think the problem is the world has been more complex. Since the days when ISIS published ARKS data we have had:
    • Growth in privacy awareness
    • Growth in cyber crime
    • Growth in the animal rights movement and their willingness to distort raw figures.
    Also Global360 is now a much larger organization, now over 1200 members, and was less than 600 when I first got involved. I imagine they would need the permission of all 1200 to publish the data publicly.
     
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