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Pelicans, Cormorants, & Darters in North America

Discussion in 'North America - General' started by Great Argus, 16 Oct 2018.

  1. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    While not technically related anymore, these three still fit well together. As usual, I used no information older than June 2016. Information on holders or species not listed is very much welcome, as always!

    I was surprised how low overall this group came out considering how widespread and common they are. American White and Brown Pelicans were the most common as I expected, almost all rehab birds. Pink-backed Pelican was the only other reasonably widespread species. Also worth noting was that many zoos that did have them often had 2-3 other members of the groups here as well (San Diego, SDZ Safari Park, Dallas, Bronx, etc).
    Surely there must be a few more rehabbed Anhinga than just the one at the Bronx?
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Pelicans - Pelecanus


    American White Pelican (18 holders)

    Alexandria
    Brookfield
    Fort Worth
    Idaho Falls
    John Ball
    Memphis
    NEW
    Northeastern Wisconsin
    Pueblo
    Sacramento
    Salisbury
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Scovill
    Sedgwick County
    St Louis
    Tracy Aviary
    Zoo Miami

    Brown Pelican (16 holders)

    Alexandria
    Bronx
    California Living Museum
    Cameron Park
    Columbus
    Dallas
    Fort Worth
    Fresno Chaffee
    Jacksonville
    Lion Country Safari
    National
    National Aviary
    New York Aquarium
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Santa Barbara

    Peruvian Pelican (1 holder)

    Bronx

    Great White Pelican (6 holders)

    Dallas
    Fort Wayne’s Children’s
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Sedgwick County
    Toronto

    Australian Pelican (0 holders)

    None?

    Pink-backed Pelican (13 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Cincinnati
    Detroit
    Fort Worth (site says P-b, but their photo looks like Great White to me.)
    Fresno Chaffee
    Jacksonville
    Maryland
    Omaha
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    San Francisco
    Sedgwick County
    Turtle Back

    Dalmatian Pelican (3 holders)

    Columbus
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Toledo

    Spot-billed Pelican (0 holders)

    None


    Cormorants


    Phalacrocorax

    Double-crested Cormorant (4 holders)

    Jacksonville
    Patricia and Phillip Frost Museum of Science
    St Louis
    Tracy Aviary

    White-breasted Cormorant (6 holders)

    Dallas
    Maryland
    Racine
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Wild Animal Park
    Toronto

    Brandt’s Cormorant (1 holder?)

    SeaWorld San Diego? (offshow)


    Microcarbo

    Little Pied Cormorant (1 holder)

    Toronto


    Darters - Anhinga


    Anhinga (1 holder)

    Bronx

    African Darter (1 holder)

    San Diego
     
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  3. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    NEW and Northeastern Wisconsin are the same zoo. :p

    American White Pelican also kept at World Bird Sanctuary. (The surprisingly low may in part be due to the fact that this species is hard to rescue).

    Brown Pelican also kept by World Bird Sanctuary.

    Racine no longer keeps White-Breasted Cormorant.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Thanks for that! I see it now! :D

    I could see that AWP could be difficult to rescue in size, do you know more specifics on why they're hard to rescue?
     
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    Their large size is part of it. The other part is that AWPs get very stressed when captured, and often die very quickly. Many times, injured pelicans aren't even attempted to be rescued because of this.
     
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    Columbus, dallas, phoenix, Toledo and Sd Safari Park have the Dalmatian Pelicon.

    San Diego Zoo does not keep the pink-backed Plican
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I'm really surprised how few zoos have pelicans in North America, according to your list. Do you think this is an artifact of the research (i.e. not being able to find the information) or a genuine representation of holder numbers?
     
  8. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I expect it is not 100% accurate, but feel it's close... my starting point for these threads is visiting approximately 150 websites of zoos and aquariums across the US and Canada, and compile a list with the species listed on the sites. Using that list I then search the Zoochat gallery and forum for each species I've found so far. The extensive photos and reviews by @snowleopard and @geomorph in particular have been very useful sources. At that point I post the list in a thread, and get information from members, updating the list every so often. Lot of work to compile, but proving very interesting!
     
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    I have added collections in bold and marked those I could not confirm in red.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Wow, thanks for all that information!
     
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    Toronto still houses both species, 2.0 White Breasted and 1.0 Little Pied.

    Edmonton Valley Zoo houses American White Pelican as well.
     
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    Update!

    Pelicans - Pelecanus



    American White Pelican (38 holders)

    Alexandria
    Assiniboine
    Audubon
    Baton Rouge
    Big Bear Alpine
    Birmingham
    Bramble Park
    Brookfield
    Caldwell
    California Living Museum
    Edmonton Valley
    Fort Worth
    Great Plains
    Homosassa Springs
    Hutchinson
    Idaho Falls
    John Ball
    Kansas City
    Lee Simmons Conservation Park
    Lousiana Purchase Gardens
    Memphis
    NEW
    Park Safari
    Phoenix
    Pueblo
    Sacramento
    Salisbury
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Scovill
    Sedgwick County
    St Louis
    Sunset
    Tracy Aviary
    Valley
    Willow Park
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zoo Miami

    Brown Pelican (27 holders)

    Alexandria
    Audubon
    Baton Rouge
    Bronx
    California Living Museum
    Cameron Park
    Columbus
    Dallas
    Flamingo Los Vegas
    Fort Worth
    Fresno Chaffee
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center
    Hattiesburg
    Homossasa Springs Wildlife Park
    Jacksonville
    Lion Country Safari
    National
    National Aviary
    New York Aquarium
    Palm Beach
    Phoenix
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Santa Barbara
    Virginia Living Museum
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zoo Tampa

    Peruvian Pelican (1 holder)

    Bronx

    Great White Pelican (9 holders)

    Audubon
    Columbus
    Dallas
    Fort Wayne’s Children’s
    Honolulu
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Sedgwick County
    Toronto

    Australian Pelican (0 holders)

    None?

    Pink-backed Pelican (16 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Audubon
    Bright’s
    Cincinnati
    Detroit
    Disney’s Animal Kingdom
    Fort Worth (site says P-b, but their photo looks like Great White to me.)
    Fresno Chaffee
    Jacksonville
    Maryland
    Omaha
    Phoenix
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    San Francisco
    Sedgwick County
    Turtle Back

    Dalmatian Pelican (5 holders)

    Columbus
    Dallas
    Phoenix
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Toledo

    Spot-billed Pelican (0 holders)

    None


    Cormorants


    Phalacrocorax

    Double-crested Cormorant (12 holders)

    Abilene
    Caldwell
    Cameron Park
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center
    Homosassa Springs Wildlife Park
    Florida Aquarium
    Jacksonville
    Patricia and Phillip Frost Museum of Science
    St Louis
    Tracy Aviary
    Virginia Living Museum
    Zoo Tampa

    Neotropic Cormorant (1 holder)

    Caldwell

    Great Cormorant (1 holder)

    Georgia Sea Turtle Center

    White-breasted Cormorant (7 holders)

    Audubon
    Dallas
    Maryland
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Wild Animal Park
    Toledo
    Toronto (2.0)

    Brandt’s Cormorant (1 holder)

    SeaWorld San Diego? (offshow)


    Microcarbo


    Little Pied Cormorant (1 holder)

    Toronto (1.0)


    Darters - Anhinga


    Anhinga (2 holders)

    Bronx
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center

    African Darter (1 holder)

    San Diego
     
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    Where do you get information of birds at georgia sea turtle center?
     
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    This is the only pelican sign in Fort Worth Zoo, as of July 24 2018. I never saw anything about pink-backeds.
     

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    The Pink-backed Pelicans currently reside in the new African Savanna (the large exhibit with all of the hoofstock). Before that they lived with the giraffes in the old "African" area.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    @Kudu21 provided that information, he'd be the one to ask.
     
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    Embarrassing myself again, I completely forgot about those! I didn't get a sign photo for them (figuring I'd remember them, ugh), but have this.
     

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    Bronx had an American White Pelican relatively recently, though I do not know if it's still there. They also had two Anhinga for a while, but I think they're back down to one.

    ~Thylo
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Update - this one is sorely lacking in updates as you can probably tell by the last post date! I think this is mostly accurate.

    Pelicans - Pelecanus


    American White Pelican (38-39 holders)

    Alexandria
    Assiniboine
    Audubon
    Baton Rouge
    Big Bear Alpine
    Birmingham
    Bramble Park
    Bronx?
    Brookfield
    Caldwell
    California Living Museum
    Edmonton Valley
    Fort Worth
    Great Plains
    Homosassa Springs
    Hutchinson
    Idaho Falls
    John Ball
    Kansas City
    Lee Simmons Conservation Park
    Lousiana Purchase Gardens
    Memphis
    NEW
    North Florida Wildlife Center
    Park Safari
    Phoenix
    Pueblo
    Sacramento
    Salisbury
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Scovill
    Sedgwick County
    St Louis
    Sunset
    Tracy Aviary
    Willow Park
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zoo Miami

    Brown Pelican (29 holders)

    Alexandria
    Audubon
    Baton Rouge
    Bronx
    California Living Museum
    Cameron Park
    Columbus
    Dallas
    Flamingo Los Vegas
    Fort Worth
    Fresno Chaffee
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center
    Hattiesburg
    Homossasa Springs Wildlife Park
    Jacksonville
    Lion Country Safari
    National
    National Aviary
    New York Aquarium
    North Florida Wildlife Center
    Palm Beach
    Phoenix
    San Antonio
    San Francisco
    Santa Barbara
    SeaWorld Orlando
    Virginia Living Museum
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zoo Tampa

    Peruvian Pelican (1 holder)

    Bronx

    Great White Pelican (9 holders)

    Audubon
    Columbus
    Dallas
    Fort Wayne’s Children’s
    Honolulu
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Sedgwick County
    Toronto

    Pink-backed Pelican (16 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Audubon
    Bright’s
    Cincinnati
    Detroit
    Disney’s Animal Kingdom
    Fort Worth
    Fresno Chaffee
    Jacksonville
    Maryland
    Omaha
    Phoenix
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    San Francisco
    Sedgwick County
    Turtle Back

    Dalmatian Pelican (5 holders)

    Columbus
    Dallas
    Phoenix
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Toledo


    Cormorants

    Phalacrocorax

    Double-crested Cormorant (12 holders)

    Abilene
    Caldwell
    Cameron Park
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center
    Homosassa Springs Wildlife Park
    Florida Aquarium
    Jacksonville
    Patricia and Phillip Frost Museum of Science
    St Louis
    Tracy Aviary
    Virginia Living Museum
    Zoo Tampa

    Neotropic Cormorant (1 holder)

    Caldwell

    Great Cormorant (1 holder)

    Georgia Sea Turtle Center

    White-breasted Cormorant (7 holders)

    Audubon
    Dallas
    Maryland
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Wild Animal Park
    Toledo
    Toronto (2.0)

    Brandt’s Cormorant (1 holder)

    SeaWorld San Diego? (offshow)


    Darters - Anhinga

    Anhinga (2 holders)

    Bronx
    Georgia Sea Turtle Center

    African Darter (1 holder)

    San Diego
     
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    Ituri Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Tracy Aviary now has Dalmatian Pelican