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Primate Mixed Species Exhibits

Discussion in 'Fantasy Zoos' started by ShonenJake13, 26 Sep 2016.

  1. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member

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    So I'm working on an idea for a fantasy primate zoo (people who have been around long enough may already know that I have previously attempted to make such a zoo). This zoo is based off of all of the types of primate kept in Europe (according to Zootierliste) and has all of those currently listed (as of the time of writing) on there in the zoo. Obviously I have some mixed exhibits, so I thought I would post them here and see what you guys think/if you guys have any tips.

    NOTE: PLEASE REMEMBER THIS IS A FANTASY ZOO AND THEREFORE SOME OF THE EXHIBITS MAY NOT BE REALISTICALLY POSSIBLE.

    Lemur mixed exhibits

    Crowned sifakas (3.2) and eastern grey bamboo lemur (1.0)

    Ring-tailed lemurs (8.0), mongoose lemurs (1.1) and red-fronted lemurs (1.2.1)

    Ring-tailed lemurs (6.9), red-bellied lemurs (1.1.2), crowned lemurs (1.1), red ruffed lemurs (5.0) and black-and-white ruffed lemurs (5.0)

    White-fronted lemurs (1.2) and red ruffed lemurs (1.3)

    Collared lemurs (3.1) and black-and-white ruffed lemurs (1.4)

    Brown lemurs (2.4), black lemurs (1.4) and white-belted black-and-white ruffed lemurs (1.2)


    South American mixed exhibits

    Goeldi's monkeys (1.1.1), eastern pygmy marmosets (5.4.2), golden lion tamarins (2.3.3), white-faced sakis (1.1.1), red-bellied tamarins (3.2) and Venezuelan red howler monkeys (6.2.1)

    Pygmy marmosets (4.2.4) and Graell's tamarins (3.2.1)

    Western pygmy marmosets (2.3.1) and saddleback tamarins (4.2)

    Geoffroy's marmosets (1.3), black-tailed marmosets (2.2) and black howler monkeys (1.4.2)

    Common marmosets (2.3.2) and golden-handed tamarins (3.5)

    Black-tufted marmosets (2.2), bearded emperor tamarins (3.4.2), golden-headed lion tamarins (1.3) and red titi monkeys (1.1.2)

    Silvery marmosets (5.2.2), black lion tamarins (1.1), Bolivian squirrel monkeys (5.10.3) and red-backed bearded sakis (1.2.2)

    Red-mantled saddleback tamarins (3.1) and black lion tamarins (1.1)

    Guianan brown capuchins (17.12.4) and common squirrel monkeys (13.20.1)

    Woolly monkeys (1.4.1) and silvery woolly monkey (1.0)


    Asian mixed exhibits

    Red-shanked doucs (1.3.1) and southern white-cheeked gibbons (1.1)

    Javan langurs (1.3.2), lar gibbons (1.1), Carpenter's lar gibbon (0.1) and Bornean orangutans (2.4)

    Silvery langurs (1.3.1) and agile gibbons (2.1)

    Fran├žois' langurs (1.5) and pileated gibbons (2.2)

    Dusky langurs (1.5.1) and golden-cheeked gibbons (1.1)

    Sumatran surilis (3.1) and siamangs (1.2)

    Silvery gibbons (2.1) and Sumatran orangutans (2.5)

    Bornean orangutan (1.0) and orangutan (1.0)


    African mixed exhibits

    Barbary macaques (3.9), patas monkeys (4.5.1), black-and-white colobus (5.6), drills (3.10.2), northern talapoins (1.2.2) and vervets (1.4)

    White-throated monkeys (1.2) and Southern African vervet monkeys (1.2)

    Schmidt's red-tailed monkeys (1.2), owl-faced monkeys (3.3) and collared mangabeys (1.3)

    Diana monkey (1.0) and western lesser spot-nosed monkey (1.0)

    Diana monkey (1.0) and Tana River mangabey (1.0)

    Mona monkeys (1.3), mandrills (8.11.3), black crested mangabeys (1.5), western black-and-white colobus (4.10) and De Brazza's monkeys (2.3)

    Red-rumped greater spot-nosed monkey (0.1), black-footed crowned monkey (0.1) and eastern lesser spot-nosed monkey (0.1)

    Greater spot-nosed monkeys (1.3.1) and tantalus monkeys (1.3.2)

    Black-nosed patas monkeys (0.2), yellow-nosed red-tailed monkey (1.0), golden-bellied mangabeys (2.4.2), eastern black-and-white colobus (11.4), eastern lowland gorilla (0.1) and western lowland gorilla (5.7)

    Nigeria-Cameroon chimpanzee (1.0), central chimpanzee (1.0) and eastern chimpanzees (0.6)

    Chimpanzees (1.3) and western chimpanzees (6.10)


    Obviously in some cases here (eg the woolly monkeys, gorillas, lar gibbons and chimps) there would be neutered animals/animals on contraceptives.

    I also would want almost all of the exhibits (with the exception of the nocturnal ones and some of the diurnal ones) in this fantasy zoo to either be forested or islands :)
     
  2. Nikola Chavkosk

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    I think that that would be rather stressfull (and crowded - unless very spacious enclosure provided) for cohabitants in the same enclosure; I don't think that mixed species enclosures are best solution. Maybe better idea would be neighborring enclosures at wich animals in one enclosure can regularly see what the animals in the neighborring enclosure(s) are doing?
     
  3. FunkyGibbon

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    This is a cool project. I hope you put a lot more flesh on these bones.

    My thoughts:
    (I know how frustrating it is when you have a vision and other people chime in with "How about this cool thing" and it's just not what you had in mind. That being said you did ask for contributions.)

    I was going to say you missed various groups but I realised that they will be those that are housed in non mixed enclosures.

    It might not be what you set out to do, but how about adding non-primates to some of the exhibits to give the zoo another dimension?

    Do mandrills mix? I never saw or heard of that.

    Lastly are you going to include a way of making, for example, five baboon species engaging for the average visitor, or just accept that this is a specialist collection that may not appeal to everyone?
     
  4. ShonenJake13

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    I can post all the other types kept, but those are all non-mixed species as you already deduced.

    I would likely add some non-primates (eg red river hogs, Nubian ibex, bongos, capybaras, pudus etc.) but that will take a while to think up.

    Mandrills have been mixed with De Brazza's monkeys and red river hogs to my knowledge. Also, if drills can be mixed (they can) I would assume mandrills could. I know that very briefly (whilst the indoor house these groups share was being extended) the mandrills at La Vallee des Singes lived together with one of their groups of colobus and their pair of roloway monkeys in the outside enclosure.

    And this would likely be a specialist collection, but primates generally are very popular anyhow (look at Monkey World, the Monkey Sanctuary, Apenheul and La Vallee des Singes) so it shouldn't be too difficult.
     
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    We'd be looking at at least one acre per mixed exhibit. The largest enclosure in this collection is the gorilla mixed exhibit at a whopping seven acres.
     
  6. Nikola Chavkosk

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    I think I have see photo and read about mixed enclosure for mandrill and pygmy hippos, anyone to know where it was that, I think it was in American zoo???
     
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    They had a mandrill and pygmy hippo exhibit at South Lakes.
     
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  8. jayjds2

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    At the San Diego Zoo, mandrills are mixed with Schmidt's spot-nosed monkeys and Wolf's Mona monkeys.

    At Zoo Atlanta, the mix was formerly (unsure of current status) drills with Wolf's Mona monkeys in one exhibit and drills with Angolan colobus in another.