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Proposed captive elephant reform (?)

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by TriUK, 19 Jun 2021.

  1. Onychorhynchus coronatus

    Onychorhynchus coronatus Well-Known Member

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    I tend to have the same cynicism too.

    The simple narrative appealing to emotion usually has the impact unfortunately.
     
  2. taun

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    You know it was only banned to stop the dog ripping the foxes apart, the ban was never to stop fox hunting, or the use of dogs for tracking?
     
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    you can leave a comment at the bottom of the article, but need to subscribe to the site
     
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    It is also strictly illegal, releasing invasive and exotic species. Off ones rocking horse ... Mr. DA.
     
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    I don't have a subscription - don't have the disposable income for one (I rely on money from my parents) . I suppose one could email.
     
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    If I was bothered by the 'news' item myself, I'd take advantage of the free trial and cancel the subscription straight away, just to post something. However, I don't think it would really make an impact on the paper or Aspinal.
     
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    An interesting look at No. 10 power games and how opportunism and secret lobbying are shaping policy: the continuum of subterfuge politics as Big Dog would have it ...
     
  10. taun

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    Just confirms we all knew and feared. My own MP down played the worrying articles and quoted Mr Goldsmiths "we not looking to ban Elephants" but a breeding ban would do such a thing over a longer period.
     
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    Really hoping a breeding ban won't happen, I doubt most people would support such a thing anyway.
     
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    Ah, Damian hired the PM's wife..?
    If anything, whatever one thinks of Damian's view of animal captivity, I'd think that Carrie here was hired largely for publicity - regardless of one's political or zoological views, having a large public figure onboard will definitely be helpful in possible indoctrination. To add, most of what the big figures see are mainly either pro-zoo advocacy from zoological figures, or explicitly anti-zoo advocacy from animal rights groups. I'd say that it would be very good to see more of a middle ground, but I'm not sure how likely that would be..
     
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