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Oregon Zoo Pygmy or not?

Discussion in 'United States' started by mstickmanp, 21 Sep 2008.

  1. mstickmanp

    mstickmanp Well-Known Member

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    Do you guys think that Chendra could possibly be a Borneo Pygmy Elephant? Some things show she is indeed different is that Chendra is shorter than Rose-Tu even though she is a year older, she also has a short trunk and a rather long tail.

    Here are some pics:
    Oregon Zoo - Asian Elephant » ZooBeat Photo Gallery
    This is a pic of Chendra.

    Baby Elephant on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
    In this pic it shows Chendra's long tail and how she is shorter than Rose-Tu (the one in the middle).

    borneo-pygmy-elephants on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
    This shows three Borneo Pygmy Elephants. Notice how long the tails are on all three and they look like Chendra too.

    So what do you guys think?
     
  2. Ituri

    Ituri Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I didn't think there was any doubt on this? She's from Sabah isn't she?
     
  3. mstickmanp

    mstickmanp Well-Known Member

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    Yup. It says in the website she was brought for breeding, but knowing she is a pygmy I wonder if the zoo will ever breed her.
     
  4. Ituri

    Ituri Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    The asian elephant SSP is managed at the species level with no consideration (as far as I know) for subspecies. I spoke to an elephant keeper in Portland who said that very thing in fact.
     
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    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I feel that Chendra should be relocated to Sabah or the Kota Kinabalu Zoo to have her breed with her truthful ssp. brethren. The Kinabalu Zoo holds the only breeding group of Bornean pygmies and is somewhat of a conservation center for them.

    Instead Portland Zoo should try to source some of those orphaned elephants in mainland Malaysia or Thailand and incorporate them into their breeding programme. No subspecies issues there ... :)
     
  6. Dallaspachyderm

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    I would think an AI program with the Kinabalu Zoo would also indeed work.... Considering all the bulls at portland weigh 6-10 tons more than her... Couldn't giving birth to a large calf also harm her? Because she is simply so much smaller!
     
  7. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    wow, you sure do grow them thar elephant bulls big in Oregon!!
     
  8. Jarkari

    Jarkari Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    11 -13 tonne bulls. . . they are huge. The largest recorded elephant was shot in Angola, weighing in at around 12 tonne. and stood 4.2 metres tall.
     
  9. polar bear

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    From the Oregon Zoo's website:

    "Packy is now the largest Asian elephant in the United States.
    He stands 10’6” at the shoulder and weighs approximately 13,500 pounds."

    Note that that is POUNDS not TONS.
     
  10. Dallaspachyderm

    Dallaspachyderm Well-Known Member

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    Sorry! I meant pounds! Does anyone have any info on Chendra being bred?
     
  11. whippersnapper

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    Chendra IS being bred

    The zoo has been trying to get her to breed with Tusko the bull for a couple years now. Since it hasn't worked out, they're training her for artificial insemination.

    Here's a picture of Tusko. He's about 41 years old, 10', and 13,500 pounds.

    Photos: Tusko, Oregon Zoo Father of the Year | kgw.com Portland
     
  12. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Chendra is defiently a Bornean Pygmy Elephant in my opinon. Shame she is being interbreed with other Asian Elephant subspecies.:(
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    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I was at the zoo in September and during the elephant talk, they mentioned that she's a Borneo Pygmy.
     
  14. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    This thread was started in 2008, and even back then it was quite clear she was a Bornean Elephant.
     
  15. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Okay? Multiple comments say "I believe" or "in my opinion". I didn't see one saying that the zoo confirmed it to be true.