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South American Fur Seals in Europe

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  1. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    They keep South American fur seals in my homezoo. I really like these animals and I even adopted one in my homezoo.

    Because there are not so many South American fur seals in Europe, I wanted to find out how many and which ones currently live and have lived in Europe.

    I sent an email to species360 and they sent me a list of the number of South American fur seals per zoo. Then I went to the internet (zootierliste etc.) for more information. So far I have found this:

    AquaZoo Leeuwarden, The Netherlands (1,1)
    1,0 Miguel - ??/06/2010 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Mary)
    0,1 Bonita – 08/07/2008 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Conchita)

    Bristol Zoo, United Kingdom (3,0)
    1,0 Toro - ??/??/2007 – Bristol Zoo (Otari? X ?)
    1,0 Pablo – 29/05/2009 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x ?)
    1,0 Juan – 01/06/2011 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Nina)

    Zoo Dortmund, Germany (1,1)
    1,0 Frodo - 12/06/2002 – Living Coasts (? X ?)
    0,1 Ronja? - 18/06/2007 – Zoo Dortmund (? X?)

    Wildlans Emmen, The Netherlands (1,3)
    1,0 Gonzo - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    0,1 ? - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    0,1 ? - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    0,1 ? - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)

    What I know is that five females came to the old zoo in Emmen in 2014 (see list below). One female died early 2015, I don't know which one. At the end of 2015, the group of 1,4 moved to the new zoo in Emmen. 1.3 should live here now. So there has another female moved or transferred, also here I do not know which.
    0,1 Baby Blue - ??/??/2012? – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x ?)
    0,1 Aruna – 26/06/2013 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue)
    0,1 Fee – 06-06-2013 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Roni)
    0,1 Cindy ??/??/2006 or 2007 – South-Africa (? X ?)
    0,1 Molly ??/??/2012 – South-Africa (? X Cindy)

    Zoo Halle, Germany (2,0)
    1,0 ? - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    1,0 ? - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)

    What I know is that the following animals (see list below) have lived in Halle in recent years. I just don't know which of these animals still live there today.
    1,0 Keto - 29/05/2015 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue)
    1,0 Migo - ??/06/2015 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x ?)
    1,0 Molly - ??/??/2005 - ? (? X ?)

    Tierpark Hagenbeck, Germany (1,6)
    1,0 Rio(Tamar) – 25/05/2017 – Living Coasts (Karel x Grace)
    0,1 Iffy – 06-06-1998 – Zoo Dortmund (? X?)
    0,1 Luna - ??/??/2000 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (? X?)
    0,1 Lucy – 13/06/2010 – Zoo Dortmund (? X?)
    0,1 Pepita – 14/06-2016 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 Avila – 30/05/2019 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 “Albino” 15/06/2020 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)

    Parc zoologique de paris, France (1,1)
    1,0 Quito - ??/??/2007 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x ?)
    0,1 Jaci - ??/05/2015 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo? X Roni)

    Living Coasts, United Kingdom (1,3)
    1,0 Karel – 21/06/2003 – Diergaarde Blijdorp (Franco x Lady)
    0,1 Grace – 26/05/2001 – Bristol Zoo (? X ?)
    0,1 Tunanta – 07/06/2006 – Living Coasts (? X Bella)
    0,1 Gemini – 03/06/2014 – Living Coasts (Karel x Grace)

    The following two zoos were not included in the list of species360. however they were on zootierliste. I found the following on their websites / facebook pages:

    Kharkiv Dolphinarium NEMO, Ukraine (1,1)?
    1,0 Bob - ??/??/???? - ? (? X ?)
    0,1 Mila - ??/??/???? - ? (? X ?)

    Sea Park Sarbsk (1,5)?
    1,0 Ricky - ??/??/2009 - Uruguay (? X ?)
    0,1 Naty - ??/??/2009 - Uruguay (? X ?)
    0,1 Luba - ??/??/2009 - Uruguay (? X ?)
    0,1 Lisa - ??/??/2009 – Uruguay (? X ?)
    0,1 Lili - ??/07/2016 – Sea Park Sarbsk (Ricky X Naty/Lisa)
    0,1 Neli - ??/07/2016 – Sea Park Sarbsk (Ricky X Naty/Lisa)

    If anyone has more information about South American fur seals in these or maybe other european zoos I would like to know. I'm looking for names, genders, zoo of residence, zoo of birth, year of birth, father, mother. Information about animals that have died in recent years is also welcome.
     
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  2. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    Small update of the list: I now know that the following animals live in Emmen:
    Wildlans Emmen, The Netherlands (1,3)
    1,0 Gonzo - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    0,1 Baby Blue - ??/??/2012? – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x ?)
    0,1 Aruna – 26/06/2013 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue)
    0,1 Molly ??/??/2012 – South-Africa (? X Cindy)

    p.s. the way I wrote it down is Male(1,0) or Female(0,1) Name - Date of Birth - Place of Birth (Father x Mother):
     
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  3. gentle lemur

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    Living Coasts has closed: so the fur seals either have been transferred elsewhere recently or they will soon be on the move.
     
  4. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    Yes i know it's closed, but the fur seals haven't been transferred yet. That's why I still mention living coasts.
     
  5. MennoPebesma

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    Updated list. I got some help from someone from a dutch forum.

    AquaZoo Leeuwarden, The Netherlands (1,1)

    1,0 Miguel - ??/06/2010 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Mary)
    0,1 Bonita – 08/07/2008 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Conchita)

    Bristol Zoo, United Kingdom (3,0)
    1,0 Toro - ??/??/2007 – Bristol Zoo (Otari X Nina)
    1,0 Pablo – 29/05/2009 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Nina)
    1,0 Juan – 01/06/2011 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Nina)

    Zoo Dortmund, Germany (1,1)
    1,0 Frodo - 12/06/2002 – Bristol Zoo (Orca X Nina)
    0,1 Ronja - 18/06/2007 – Zoo Dortmund (Pablo XRony)

    Wildlans Emmen, The Netherlands (1,3)
    1,0 Gonzo - ??/??/???? - ? (? X?)
    0,1 Baby Blue - ??/??/2012? – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue?)
    0,1 Aruna – 26/06/2013 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue)
    0,1 Molly ??/??/2012 – South-Africa (? X Cindy)

    Zoo Halle, Germany (2,0)
    1,0 Keto - 29/05/2015 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo x Blue)
    1,0 Molly - ??/??/2005 - Tierpark Hagenbeck (Forelli X Conchita)

    Tierpark Hagenbeck, Germany (1,6)
    1,0 Rio(Tamar) – 25/05/2017 – Living Coasts (Karel x Grace)
    0,1 Iffy – 06-06-1998 – Zoo Dortmund (Pablo XBetty)
    0,1 Luna - ??/??/2000 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Forelli XDolores)
    0,1 Lucy – 13/06/2010 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo XRony)
    0,1 Pepita – 14/06-2016 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 Avila – 30/05/2019 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 “Albino” 15/06/2020 – Tierpark Hagenbeck (Gringo x Lucy)

    Parc zoologique de paris, France (1,1)
    1,0 Quito - ??/??/2007 – Bristol Zoo (Otari x Mary)
    0,1 Jaci - ??/05/2015 – Zoo Dortmund (Frodo? X Rony)

    Living Coasts, United Kingdom (1,3)
    1,0 Karel – 21/06/2003 – Diergaarde Blijdorp (Franco x Lady)
    0,1 Grace – 26/05/2001 – Bristol Zoo (Orca X Tanya)
    0,1 Tunanta – 07/06/2006 – Living Coasts (Frodo X Bella)
    0,1 Gemini – 03/06/2014 – Living Coasts (Karel x Grace)

    if anyone knows more, then I would like to know.
     
  6. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    Is there anyone who knows more about former holdings of this species in the following zoos? I have written down the animals i know about.

    Written as: Male(1,0) or Female(0,1) – Year of birth – Place of birth.

    -Zoo Landau, Germany (holder until 2019)
    0,1 Karmen – 2001 (Arrived in 2003, died in 2016) – Zoo Dortmund
    1,0 Gonzo – 2003 (Arrived in 2005, moved to Emmen in 2019) – Tierpark Hagenbeck
    0,1 Bonita – 2006 (Arrived in 2009, died in ?) – Bristol Zoo
    0,1 Bubuna – 2011 (Died in 2012) – Zoo Landau
    0,1 Chavin – 2013 (Moved to Leeuwarden in 2016) – Zoo Landau
    0,1 Tia – 2006? (Arrived in ?, died in ?) – Bristol Zoo?
    0,1 Jaci – 2015 (Arrived in 2017, moved to Paris in 2019) – Zoo Dortmund

    -Aquazoo Löbbecke Museum Düsseldorf, Germany (holder until 2009)
    0,1 Dixie – 1988 (Arrived in ?, moved to Dortmund in 2009) – Zoo Dortmund

    -Zoo Duisburg, Germany (holder until 2007)
    0,1 Conchita – 1987 (Arrived in ?, moved to Leeuwarden in 2007) – In the Wild

    -Diergaarde Blijdorp Rotterdam, The Netherlands (holder until 2003)
    1,0 Franco – ? (Arrived in ?, died in 2003) – ?
    0,1 Iffy – 1998 (Arrived in 1999, moved to Leeuwarden in 2003) – Zoo Dortmund
    1,0 Orlando – 1992 (Arrived in 2001, moved to ? in 2002) – Diergaarde Blijdorp
    0,1 Lady – ? (Arrived in ?, moved to Leeuwarden in 2003) – In the Wild
    0,1 Elena – ? (Arrived in ?, moved to Leeuwarden in 2003) – In the Wild
    0,1 Loulou – 2001 (Moved to Leeuwarden in 2003) – Diergaarde Blijdorp
    1,0 Karel – 2003 (Moved to Leeuwarden in 2003) – Diergaarde Blijdorp
    0,0,1 ? – 1990 – Diergaarde Blijdorp
    0,0,1 ? – 1991 – Diergaarde Blijdorp
    0,0,1 ? – 1994 – Diergaarde Blijdorp

    -Lo Zoo di Napoli, Italy (holder until 2010)
    1,0 Willie - ???? (Died in 2010) – ?

    -Klaipeda Dolphinarium & Sea Museum, Lithuania (holder until ?)
    Only read that they had them. Don't know when, for how long, how many and which animals.
     
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  7. MennoPebesma

    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    The three female South-American fur seals from the closed Living Coasts in the UK moved to AquaZoo Leeuwarden in The Netherlands. The group in AquaZoo now consists of one male and four Females.
     
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    MennoPebesma Well-Known Member

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    An updated list of the current 26 (11,15) South American fur seals in european zoos:

    0,0 Name (Father x Mother) Date of Birth (Location)

    AquaZoo Leeuwarden, The Netherlands (1,4)

    1,0 Miguel (Otari x Mary) ??/06/2010 (Bristol Zoo)
    0,1 Bonita (Gringo x Conchita) 08/07/2008 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)
    0,1 Grace (Orca X Tanya) 26/05/2001 (Bristol Zoo)
    0,1 Tunanta (Frodo X Bella) 07/06/2006 (Living Coasts)
    0,1 Gemini (Karel x Grace) 03/06/2014 (Living Coasts)

    Bristol Zoo, United Kingdom (3,0)
    1,0 Toro (Otari X Nina) ??/??/2007 (Bristol Zoo)
    1,0 Pablo (Otari x Nina) 29/05/2009 (Bristol Zoo)
    1,0 Juan (Otari x Nina) 01/06/2011 (Bristol Zoo)

    Zoo Dortmund, Germany (1,1)
    1,0 Frodo (Orca x Nina) 12/06/2002 (Bristol Zoo)
    0,1 Ronja (Pablo x Rony) 18/06/2007 (Zoo Dortmund)

    Wildlans Emmen, The Netherlands (1,3)
    1,0 Gonzo (Forelli x Conchita) ??/??/2003 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)
    0,1 Baby Blue (Frodo x Blue) ??/??/2012 (Zoo Dortmund)
    0,1 Aruna (Frodo x Blue) 26/06/2013 (Zoo Dortmund)
    0,1 Molly (? x Cindy) ??/??/2012 (South-Africa)

    Zoo Halle, Germany (2,0)
    1,0 Keto (Frodo x Blue) 29/05/2015 (Zoo Dortmund)
    1,0 Molly (Forelli X Conchita) ??/??/2005 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)

    Tierpark Hagenbeck, Germany (1,6)
    1,0 Rio(Tamar) (Karel x Grace) 25/05/2017 (Living Coasts)
    0,1 Iffy (Pablo x Betty) 06-06-1998 (Zoo Dortmund)
    0,1 Luna (Forelli x Dolores) ??/??/2000 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)
    0,1 Lucy (Frodo XRony) 13/06/2010 (Zoo Dortmund)
    0,1 Pepita (Gringo x Lucy) 14/06-2016 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)
    0,1 Avila (Gringo x Lucy) 30/05/2019 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)
    0,1 Elsa (Gringo x Lucy) 15/06/2020 (Tierpark Hagenbeck)

    Parc zoologique de paris, France (1,1)
    1,0 Quito (Otari x Mary) ??/??/2007 (Bristol Zoo)
    0,1 Jaci (Frodo X Rony) ??/05/2015 (Zoo Dortmund)

    Living Coasts, United Kingdom (1,0)
    1,0 Karel (Franco x Lady) 21/06/2003 (Diergaarde Blijdorp)

    Does anybody know if it's possible to get a copy of the ESB studbook of the South American fur seals from Zoo Dortmund (the studbook holder)? I've sent them an email but didn't get an answer back.
     
  9. The Hedgehog

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    @MennoPebesma which location did the Female Fur Seals from Bristol Zoo end up living at?I have a DVD series that was filmed at Bristol Zoo,called The Zoo. On one of the episodes it follows the story of Ronnie the Mum of ,Otari, Bristol's breeding male Fur Seal moving to Dortmund Zoo in Germany. Do you know if Ronnie is still alive and living at Dortmund Zoo?
     
  10. MennoPebesma

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    The fur seals listed above are the current living fur seals in european zoos. I don't kwow where the other female(s) moved to. You probably mean Mary and Nina, they lived in Bristol Zoo. But that's also the only information i have about them.

    Rony (Ronnie) did indeed move to Zoo Dortmund in 2005. She died there last year.
     
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    South American fur seal 'Blue' in Wildlands has died. An autopsy showed that her heart was too big.

    Updated population list:
    Total population: 11,14,0 (25) Animals. (Within the ESB).

    THE NETHERLANDS
    AquaZoo Leeuwarden (1,4)

    1,0 Miguel (??/06/2010, Bristol Zoo) (Otari x Mary)
    0,1 Bonita (08/07/2008, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Gringo x Conchita)
    0,1 Grace (26/05/2001, Bristol Zoo) (Orca X Tanya)
    0,1 Tunanta (07/06/2006, Living Coasts) (Frodo X Bella)
    0,1 Gemini (03/06/2014, Living Coasts) (Karel x Grace)

    Wildlans Emmen (1,2)
    1,0 Gonzo (??/??/2003, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Forelli x Conchita)
    0,1 Aruna ( 26/06/2013, Zoo Dortmund) (Frodo x Blue)
    0,1 Molly (??/??/2012, South-Africa) (? x Cindy)

    UNITED KINGDOM
    Bristol Zoo (3,0)

    1,0 Toro (??/??/2007, Bristol Zoo) (Otari X Nina)
    1,0 Pablo (29/05/2009, Bristol Zoo) (Otari X Nina)
    1,0 Juan (01/06/2011, Bristol Zoo) (Otari X Nina)

    Living Coasts (1,0)
    1,0 Karel (21/06/2003, Diergaarde Blijdorp) (Franco x Lady)

    GERMANY
    Zoo Dortmund (1,1)

    1,0 Frodo (12/06/2002, Bristol Zoo) (Orca x Nina)
    0,1 Ronja (18/06/2007, Zoo Dortmund) (Pablo x Rony)

    Zoo Halle (2,0)
    1,0 Keto (29/05/2015, Zoo Dortmund) (Frodo x Blue)
    1,0 Molly (??/??/2005, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Forelli X Conchita)

    Tierpark Hagenbeck (1,6)
    1,0 Rio (25/05/2017, Living Coasts) (Karel x Grace)
    0,1 Iffy (06-06-1998, Zoo Dortmund) (Pablo x Betty)
    0,1 Luna (??/??/2000, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Forelli x Dolores)
    0,1 Lucy (13/06/2010, Zoo Dortmund) (Frodo XRony)
    0,1 Pepita (14/06-2016, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 Avila (30/05/2019, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Gringo x Lucy)
    0,1 Elsa (15/06/2020, Tierpark Hagenbeck) (Gringo x Lucy)

    FRANCE
    Parc zoologique de Paris (1,1)

    1,0 Quito (??/??/2007, Bristol Zoo) (Otari x Mary)
    0,1 Jaci (??/05/2015, Zoo Dortmund) (Frodo X Rony)
     
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