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The EU/Brexit vote and zoos

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Lemurs, 20 Jun 2016.

  1. Andrew Swales

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    I merely guessed that Arizona Docent's might contain dollars; so sorry for getting something else wrong....
     
  2. Andrew Swales

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    Point of accuracy taken - substitute the word Parliament for Commission, and my point still stands. Both are equally remote, unaccountable and arrogant. For the briefest of moments I forgot that we were all paying for two extra layers of bureaucrats, over and above the shower that sit in London...
     
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    I think that this is the fear that the zoos (both EU and UK) have: until there is an agreement, it might be difficult to transfer animals. And after the agreement, it might cost much more time to arrange all the paperwork. We have these experiences with BALAI, where the UK was years ahead of most other EU countries with implementing this regulation, and it became for zoos of some countries almost impossible to exchange animals with the UK. It was terrible for coordinators of EEPs, who sometimes had to base their recommendations on this, and not on genetics, characters of animals or needs of zoos.
     
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    You mean the EU Thought Police haven't been round to replace them all with Euros?

    :D
     
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  6. Andrew Swales

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    The scaremongering continues; drip, drip...
    EAZA and its EEPs and other programmes are not confined to the EU. To suggest so is simply untrue. Participants take part in these programmes from outside the EU, and indeed outside EAZA...
     
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    Brexit id finished. We will either end up back in the EU as full members or have a second class membership like Norway but it's finished.
     
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    Unfortunately if nothing is agreed by April 12th then according to the EU we will leave on April 13th with a no deal
     
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    Assuming the UK leaves without a deal, the politicians in the house of Commons are wholly to blame.Theyhave had two years to sort something out.
     
  10. AdrianW1963

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    According to the MP's it's not there fault but they agree with the remoaners that the fault lies with the people who voted leave.
    All MP's should sit down and look at themselves and resign as they promised they would honour the result (as long as it was remain) and they have NOT
    This mess firmly lies with the MP's and nobody else no matter what twisted they put on it and come the next General Election I hate to think how the British People will vote after this pathetic sham issue.
     
  11. Arizona Docent

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    Are a lot of people over there still in favor of Brexit, or has the public turned against it?
     
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    Depends who you ask, and who you believe :p and either way it's a question apt to cause more than a little discord on here methinks!
     
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    It remains a relatively even split (although as TLD asks, it depends who you listen to). Firm believers on both sides have only become more polarised since 2016. That said, the picture's complicated somewhat by:
    1. 2016 Brexiteers who now would prefer to remain;
    2. 2016 Remainers who believe Brexit must be implemented; and
    3. People who were swing voters in 2016 and now just want the issue to be resolved, irrespective of what this solution actually is.
     
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    Please avoid general discussions about Brexit in this thread - this thread is specifically about zoos and how Brexit is affecting them.
     
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    It's not scaremongering. It's simply pointing out that around 20% of the European population is in the UK and that if the UK leaves without an agreement this could result in additional requirements (and costs) when transferring into/out of the UK. Which would make transfer more difficult.

    Yes, countries outside the EU participate in EAZA EEPs but using existing agreements (veterinary etc.) which the UK would not have in the event of a no-deal brexit.
     
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    And I think it would also be helpful to avoid terms like "remoaners" ...
     
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    Again, quite untrue. EEPs have NO veterinary agreements. Veterinary movement requirements are put in place by DEFRA, have nothing whatsoever to do with EAZA or EEPs, and make no dispensation for EEP species.
     
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    I hesitate to kick the carcass of this particular thread, but, from today’s Guardian...

    Sexy beasts: why Brexit is giving zoo animals the horn
    Sexy beasts: why Brexit is giving zoo animals the horn

    Note for non-Guardian readers: Pass Notes is along-standing column which humorously imitates those “all you need to know” features in newspapers.
     
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    {Note from mods - the following series of posts were moved from this thread: Durrell news [Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust]}




    Is it about time the UK rejoined the EU?
     
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    Jersey isn’t in the U.K, and has never been part of the EU. Kind of makes me believe that the original story isn’t true though I’ll leave that to the experts.