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The population of dhole at worldwide zoos today

Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by dt644, 9 Apr 2020.

  1. Kifaru Bwana

    Kifaru Bwana Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Bannerghatta bred these 2018 first. Cubs did not survive. I assume later litters have.
     
  2. Kifaru Bwana

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    I would not be so sure. Indian subcontinent is all local. In the recent past dholes came in from Russia and China. German zoos - as far as I know - kept them to subspecific level historically.
     
  3. dt644

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    Thank you for letting me know. It is fortunate that the zoo maintained the dholes as a local unit.

    As I said earlier, I didn't know how zoos manage dholes because I haven't seen any dhole myself. And I've seen too long the situation at the Korean zoo where can't distinguish and manage subspecies properly. So I thought so.
     
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    San Diego Zoo Safari Park - Nima, Tikka Masala, Mishti Doi, Tandori, Alula, Berezi, Sadie, Scarlet, Thea, Uski, and Violet. I know that San Diego has more, but these are all I know of.
    Bronx Zoo - Apollo, Kito, and Rowan.
    Minnesota Zoo - Basundi, Kallu, and Piri.
    The Wilds - Beni, Jetson, Seema, Ray, Sam, Arva, Abby, Brenna, and Emma.
    Zoo Miami - Sanuk, Katsu, Yoshi, and Torma.
     
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    Do you know what subspecies these groups are?
     
  6. Penshet

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    All dholes in Europe are C. a. lepturus.
     
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    Interesting ! thanks for sharing !
     
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    No, but ZTL should.
     
  9. Buldeo

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    I don't recall Delhi Zoo have any dhole as of 2016. Which is strange because they had every other marquee species.
     
  10. Kifaru Bwana

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    Source or based on what (I am not contesting as look what I wrote before, just want to know what evidence based info you make your claims upon)?
     
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    It is true. There are some specimens not registered as lepturus, but they are just old registrations.
     
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    Both of these zoos' dholes are from the local population and are sourced from the wild (Mostly problem animals found near livestock)

    Singapore
    Singapore Night Safari

    I sadly do not know their numbers but from what i've read they have bred in these zoos before
     
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    Very good to hear that these "problem" dholes are being rehoused at the zoo and not culled.
     
  14. dt644

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    It's okay if you don't know the numbers. Thanks for the information.

    And you said that two zoos in Malaysia you mentioned have dholes captured from wilds, do they specify the subspecies of the dholes they own? I tried to check their website, but neither of them had much information.
     
  15. Kifaru Bwana

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    You will not find that sort of information on their website!

    You can go by the fact that the subspecies is Cuon alpinus fumosus. This subspecies ranges from Thailand/Malaysia thru IndoChina and Indonesia and north to Sichuan, PR. China and Mongolia.
     
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    Yes, if that dholes captured in Malaysia, they were fumosus subspecies, considering the contents of wikipedia's dhole page. But I wanted to check this subspecies classification is being used in that local area as well.

    However, as you said, that two zoo didn't has a detailed description of which animals they own on their website.
     
  17. Kifaru Bwana

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    Do you have any idea or info about the history of the dhole at your local zoo Cheongju Zoo?
     
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    Unfortunately, I don't have any information about that two dholes. I just assume that they came from a foreign country when the Cheongju Zoo was opened.

    I have the contact number of the current head of the animal management team & veterinarian at the Cheongju Zoo, who has worked as a veterinarian since the opening of the Cheongju Zoo, but we are not very close, so it is difficult to contact he to find out just one thing. But I'm sure he knows something about that two dholes.