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The Zoochat Photographic Guide To Mesites, Pigeons And Sandgrouse

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  1. TeaLovingDave

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    ZENAIDINI - 21 species missing


    Blue-headed Quail-dove (Starnoenas cyanocephala)
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    Purple Quail-dove (Geotrygon purpurata)
    Sapphire Quail-dove (Geotrygon saphirina)
    Grey-headed Quail-dove (Geotrygon caniceps)
    White-fronted Quail-dove (Geotrygon leucometopia)
    Violaceous Quail-dove (Geotrygon violacea)
    Bridled Quail-dove (Geotrygon mystacea)
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    Olive-backed Quail-dove (Leptotrygon veraguensis)
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    Caribbean Dove (Leptotila jamaicensis)
    Grey-chested Dove (Leptotila cassinii)
    Tolima Dove (Leptotila conoveri)
    Ochre-bellied Dove (Leptotila ochraceiventris)
    Brown-backed Dove (Leptotila battyi)
    Grenada Dove (Leptotila wellsi)
    Yungas Dove (Leptotila megalura)
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    Tuxtla Quail-dove (Zentrygon carrikeri)
    Buff-fronted Quail-dove (Zentrygon costaricensis)
    White-faced Quail-dove (Zentrygon albifacies)
    White-throated Quail-dove (Zentrygon frenata)
    Lined Quail-dove (Zentrygon linearis)
    Russet-crowned Quail-dove (Zentrygon goldmani)

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    COLUMBININI - 8 species missing


    Scaled Dove (Columbina squammata)
    Blue-eyed Ground-dove (Columbina cyanopis)
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    Maroon-chested Ground-dove (Claravis mondetoura)
    Purple-winged Ground-dove (Claravis geoffroyi)
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    Moreno's Ground-dove (Metriopelia morenoi)
    Black-winged Ground-dove (Metriopelia melanoptera)
    Golden-spotted Ground-dove (Metriopelia aymara)
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    Long-tailed Ground-dove (Uropelia campestris)

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    PHABINI - 12 species missing


    New Britain Bronzewing (Henicophaps foersteri)
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    Mindoro Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba platenae)
    Sulu Bleeding-heart (Gallicolumba menagei)
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    Wetar Ground-dove (Alopecoenas hoedtii)
    Caroline Ground-dove (Alopecoenas kubaryi)
    Polynesian Ground-dove (Alopecoenas erythropterus)
    Marquesas Ground-dove (Alopecoenas rubescens)
    Western Bronze Ground-dove (Alopecoenas beccarii)
    Eastern Bronze Ground-dove (Alopecoenas johannae)
    Palau Ground-dove (Alopecoenas canifrons)
    Shy Ground-dove (Alopecoenas stairi)
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    Chestnut-quilled Rock-pigeon (Petrophassa rufipennis)

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    RAPHINI - 4 species missing


    Grey-naped Pheasant-pigeon (Otidiphaps cervicalis)
    Black-naped Pheasant-pigeon (Otidiphaps insularis)
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    Scheepmaker's Crowned-pigeon (Goura scheepmakeri)
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    Tooth-billed Pigeon (Didunculus strigirostris)

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    TURTURINI - 5 species missing


    Amethyst Brown-dove
    (Phapitreron amethystinus)
    Grey-breasted Brown-dove (Phapitreron maculipectus)
    Cebu Brown-dove (Phapitreron frontalis)
    Dark-eared Brown-dove (Phapitreron brunneiceps)
    Tawitawi Brown-dove (Phapitreron cinereiceps)

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    TRERONINI - 18 species missing


    Cinnamon-headed Green-pigeon (Treron fulvicollis)
    Little Green-pigeon (Treron olax)
    Ashy-headed Green-pigeon (Treron phayrei)
    Grey-fronted Green-pigeon (Treron affinis)
    Andaman Green-pigeon (Treron chloropterus)
    Buru Green-pigeon (Treron aromaticus)
    Grey-cheeked Green-pigeon (Treron griseicauda)
    Sumba Green-pigeon (Treron teysmannii)
    Flores Green-pigeon (Treron floris)
    Timor Green-pigeon (Treron psittaceus)
    Comoro Green-pigeon (Treron griveaudi)
    Pemba Green-pigeon (Treron pembaensis)
    Sao Tome Green-pigeon (Treron sanctithomae)
    Pin-tailed Green-pigeon (Treron apicauda)
    Sumatran Green-pigeon (Treron oxyurus)
    White-bellied Green-pigeon (Treron sieboldii)
    Ryukyu Green-pigeon (Treron permagnus)
    Taiwan Green-pigeon (Treron formosae)

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    PTILINOPINI - 66 species missing


    Mindoro Imperial-pigeon (Ducula mindorensis)
    Enggano Imperial-pigeon (Ducula oenothorax)
    Seram Imperial-pigeon (Ducula neglecta)
    Micronesian Imperial-pigeon (Ducula oceanica)
    Polynesian Imperial-pigeon (Ducula aurorae)
    Nukuhiva Imperial-pigeon (Ducula galeata)
    Geelvink Imperial-pigeon (Ducula geelvinkiana)
    Cinnamon-bellied Imperial-pigeon (Ducula basilica)
    Rusty Imperial-pigeon (Ducula obiensis)
    Finsch's Imperial-pigeon (Ducula finschii)
    Shining Imperial-pigeon (Ducula chalconota)
    Barking Imperial-pigeon (Ducula latrans)
    Chestnut-bellied Imperial-pigeon (Ducula brenchleyi)
    Vanuatu Imperial-pigeon (Ducula bakeri)
    Louisiade Imperial-pigeon (Ducula salvadorii)
    Bismarck Imperial-pigeon (Ducula melanochroa)
    Nilgiri Imperial-pigeon (Ducula cuprea)
    Dark-backed Imperial-pigeon (Ducula lacernulata)
    Timor Imperial-pigeon (Ducula cineracea)
    Yellowish Imperial-pigeon (Ducula subflavescens)
    Silver-tipped Imperial-pigeon (Ducula luctuosa)
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    Scarlet-breasted Fruit-dove (Megaloprepia formosa)
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    Maroon-chinned Fruit-dove (Ramphiculus epius)
    Banggai Fruit-dove (Ramphiculus subgularis)
    Sula Fruit-dove (Ramphiculus mangoliensis)
    Red-eared Fruit-dove (Ramphiculus fischeri)
    Lompobattang Fruit-dove (Ramphiculus meridionalis)
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    Comoro Blue-pigeon (Alectroenas sganzini)
    Seychelles Blue-pigeon (Alectroenas pulcherrimus)
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    Whistling Dove (Chrysoena viridis)
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    Dwarf Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus nainus)
    Negros Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus arcanus)
    Black-backed Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus cinctus)
    Grey-rumped Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus alligator)
    Red-naped Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus dohertyi)
    White-bibbed Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus rivoli)
    Geelvink Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus speciosus)
    Yellow-banded Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus solomonensis)
    Tanna Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus tannensis)
    Grey-headed Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus hyogastrus)
    Carunculated Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus granulifrons)
    Wallace's Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus wallacii)
    Western Ornate Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus ornatus)
    Knob-billed Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus insolitus)
    Claret-breasted Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus viridis)
    White-headed Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus eugeniae)
    Blue-capped Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus monacha)
    White-capped Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus dupetithouarsii)
    Palau Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus pelewensis)
    Silver-capped Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus richardsii)
    Pohnpei Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus ponapensis)
    Kosrae Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus hernsheimi)
    Tongan Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus porphyraceus)
    Samoan Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus fasciatus)
    Rapa Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus huttoni)
    Henderson Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus insularis)
    Makatea Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus chalcurus)
    Atoll Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus coralensis)
    Raiatea Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus chrysogaster)
    Rarotonga Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus rarotongensis)
    Grey-green Fruit-dove (Ptilinopus purpuratus)
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    Chatham Pigeon (Hemiphaga chathamensis)
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    Sombre Pigeon (Cryptophaps poecilorrhoa)
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    Seram Mountain-pigeon (Gymnophaps stalkeri)
    Buru Mountain-pigeon (Gymnophaps mada)
    Pale Mountain-pigeon (Gymnophaps solomonensis)

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    So, as the above figures show, we currently have 190 extant species of pigeon and dove represented in the gallery with good photographs :) with 171 species missing. Just over a 50% success rate is not bad at all considering the vast, vast majority of missing species are island endemics located in the remote reaches of the Pacific and/or Indian Ocean!

    However. as previously noted, one of the "missing" species in the above total - Ducula luctuosa - is present in the gallery but only in the form of a blurry and unfocused photograph. Fortunately this is also one of the species we have the best chance of obtaining better images of, as it is on-display at Plzen, a collection visited reasonably often by members of our community.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I was about to post "how can there be no photos of Scheepmaker's?!" but then realised you are splitting Sclater's.
     
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    Just found and uploaded a (not very good) photo of Treron sieboldii sieboldii from Ueno zoo. Also a couple of a Ducula species in the Bali zoo gallery that may or may not be of use.
     
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    I have a photo of the pair at the Little Rock Zoo which I will post today :D
     
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    These will almost certainly be Sclater's, but please post just in case!

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    How do you differentiate the two? They were signed as Scheepmaker's, but that is not going to be reliable since when I visited they were considered the same species. I was unaware of the idea that they could be Sclater's.
     
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    I had thought the split between Scheepmaker's and Sclater's was based solely on colouration which would make it pretty dodgy, but would nevertheless be accepted simply because it was in the HBW.

    However, (despite the lack of such evidence in the HBW account) there is actually a genetic base for the split, with the two taxa actually being each more closely related to the other two species - scheepmakeri pairs with cristata, and sclaterii pairs with victoria.

    See here: https://www.researchgate.net/public...and_conservation_of_New_Guinean_lowland_birds

    (And for @d1am0ndback there are illustrations of the four in the paper for comparison)
     
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    Based off the illustration the birds at the Little Rock Zoo are without a doubt Sclater's, thank you for this information.
     
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    Quite; personally I still lump the two on my lifelist, but given the genetic evidence you cited - which I hadn't heard about - I may have to reconsider this.
     
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    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    I've added your Treron shot, thanks :)

    The Ducula has me stumped, I have to say! It doesn't look quite right for anything we have already, but nor can I work out what it might be otherwise - the combination of red legs, dark eyes, pale tip to the tail feathers and reasonably drab colouration doesn't seem to fit anything I can think of.

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    Any ideas, @Erythrogaster ? You seem to be a bit of an expert on birds judging by your posts of late, so I'd value your opinion.
     
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    Gosh! I wasn't expecting to present a challenge for the team - now I'm intrigued...
     
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    PTEROCLIDAE


    This family comprises two extant genera:

    Syrrhaptes - Pallas' and Tibetan Sandgrouse (2 species)

    Pterocles - True Sandgrouse (14 species)

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    Syrrhaptes


    Pallas's Sandgrouse
    (Syrrhaptes paradoxus)

    The range of this species extends throughout central and eastern Asia, from the northeast coastline of the Caspian Sea in Kazakhstan in the west, through northern Uzbekistan, southern Siberia and Mongolia into north-central China in the west, and south to west-central China.

    Monotypic.

    Photo by @gentle lemur

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    Tibetan Sandgrouse
    (Syrrhaptes tibetanus)

    The range of this species extends from eastern Tajikistan and Kashmir east to the Tibetan Plateau, northwest China and west-central China.

    Monotypic; no photographs of this species are present in the Zoochat gallery.

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