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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by ThylacineAlive, 24 Oct 2012.

  1. zooboy28

    zooboy28 Well-Known Member

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    True, I can't find "Colored Mountain" on Google Maps (maybe they blacked it out?:eek::D). But the other creek is there.
     
  2. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Personally, I don't see how the term "Asiatic" is offensive at all. Same with Eskimo. Zooboy, I'd watch the way you're throwing the N word around, some people might get upset reading it. I've been calling them Asiatic Lions, Asiatic Cheetahs, and Asiatic Black Bears you a while now and I doubt I'll change that. The term "Asian" for those animals doesn't sound right to me for those particular species. I still say Asian Elephant and Asian Small-Clawed Otter (actually I saw Oriental Small-Clawed Otter) for those animals, though.
     
  3. Arizona Docent

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    Me neither - this is the first I have heard of such a thing.
     
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    I didn't know about the connotation until recently and looking at the etymology of the word. From what I understand, it is an old connotation from WWII and earlier. The term "Asiatic" was used to mean barbaric.

    As for the use of the N-word in the thread, I'm going to leave it as is. We are discussing language and its usage. It is a perfectly valid reason to use those words. I had this same discussion in class the other day where I was teaching a novel to junior high kids that had the word "damn" in it. Words have specific, and sometimes powerful meanings.

    With Eskimo, I know I have seen snowleopard rail against its use, which leads me to believe its use in Canada has a somewhat different connotation than in the US.

    Different countries, different histories.
     
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    Ituri Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    It is my understanding that the term Eskimo is used in the US because it encompasses both the Inuit and Yupik people. Canada only has Inuit, however and the Yupik people live in Alaska. The term Eskimo is NOT synonymous with Inuit.
     
  6. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    jbnbsn, you're causing all types of commotion with this information!!:D:D I honestly doubt that a person of Asian decent will get mad it you call them Asiatic. They'll probably get confused. Asiatic is just the term I use for the Lions of India, the Cheetahs of Iran, and the black bears throughout Asia.
     
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    Depends on their age. If they are older than say 70, then yes, they would get offended.
     
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    Weren't the animals called Asiatic named that over 70 years ago.
     
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    Languages change.
     
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    Is anyone else watching Big Cat Week? It's the first year I've decided to give it a try. I have to admit, I liked "Snow Leopard of Afghanistan" a lot.
     
  11. jusko88

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    I very much liked it myself too!!!!
     
  12. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    There's a Big Cat Week!! Is it on the Discovery Channel!? Thnak you for bringing this thread back to life, for such a popular and commonly discussed subject this thread hasn't been very popular.:confused:
     
  13. Gulo gulo

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    It's on NAT GEO WILD.

    Attack of the Big Cats | Nat Geo Wild
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Unfortunetly I don't get that channel:(
    So to keep this thread from going dark again, does anyone have anything about cats they want to talk/ask about?
     
  15. Arizona Docent

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    Here is the Links page from my own wild cat website, that lists some of the better (IMO) cat conservation groups, followed by a list of zoos with good cat collections:

    links
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Apparently a breeding center in the United Arab Emirates has some Marbled Cats.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  17. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    yes that has already been mentioned on this thread.

    They are at the Albustan Wildlife Breeding Centre. One of the Zoochat members has even been there and taken a photo of one of the marbled cats.
     
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    As has the fact they are no longer there, sadly:

     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    ah yes so you did. I had only remembered ArizonaDocent mentioning the facility.
     
  20. Arizona Docent

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    They don't have them anymore? Last I had seen, they were up to four? In fact another cat loving ZooChatter who occasionally PM's me recently tried to get in to see them and could not gain admittance to this private facility, but I was under the definite impression they are still there.

    There is still, as far as I know, at least one in Thailand (the zoo name escapes me at the moment - it may even be earlier on this thread which I am too lazy to re-read). A few years ago I had seen a marbled cat held also at a very nice looking native wildlife park in India, but I think it is no longer there. I want to photograph a marbled cat about as badly as some ZooChatters want to see a thylacine. (And I fear may chances may be just about the same).