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Chester Zoo UK's first sun bear born!

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by sloggervlogger, 29 Jun 2018.

  1. sloggervlogger

    sloggervlogger Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    What brilliant news from Chester Zoo this morning. A new baby Sun bear! Congratulation Chester Zoo!
     
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    Great news indeed, is it strictly true to say the first UK birth or is this the first surviving cub??
     
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    sloggervlogger Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I'm not sure. I can only go by what Chester Zoo announced. :)
     
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    Its the first surviving cub but its not reached 30 days yet and everything is looking better than last years which died less than 2 days old!
     
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    Fabulous news. Fabulous achievement.
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    So its not quite the first 'ever' if one was born last year...
     
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    Charlie Simmomds Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Well it’s at least currently the only surviving one, the same can be said when the specticaled bear cub was born last year. It wasn’t the first exactly the pair had a cub that didn’t survive.
     
  8. Zia

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    I'm not sure that matters really - it is currently the first ever surviving cub and it is great news.
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I understand why it is portrayed that way but I think it does matter. It is not quite true and therefore innaccurate. Call it nit-picking if you like but I do prefer full truth.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    The first one was also the "first ever surviving cub" - but then it died. The zoo specifically stating that this is the first ever cub is just a lie if there have been (a) previous cub(s).
     
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    I'm afraid Chester's publicity people have more enthusiasm than knowledge (to put it diplomatically).
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Chester Zoo | Rare Sun bear cub has been born at Chester Zoo

    Quote from "Tim Rowlands, Cyrator of Mammals":

    It’s simply fantastic that we’ve been able to help them come this far and have a cub together. It’s momentous for them and, with it being a UK first breeding of this species, momentous for the zoo too.
     
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    gentle lemur Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    That's precisely what I mean. I think that Tim may indeed have said those words, but I expect that he said rather more than that and his statement has been rearranged and edited by the PR people. Once this sort of thing has been sent out it is too late to put things right.
     
  14. Zia

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    They have not kept the previous cubs death a secret - I don't think there is an 'intentional' lie about it at all. Possibly the curator of mammels is just excited about the good news and didn't want to sully the announcement by talking about the previous situation which must have been horrible for all involved. Either way - Milli & Toni / Chester are still the holders of the UK's first breeding so in that sense - it doesn't matter.
     
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    Doesn't matter if it was 'intentional' or not. Its wrong information and a number of people here agree with me it shouldn't happen, whoever was responsible for it. They should be accurate about their facts and I don't like to see this sort of thing coming from a well-reknowned (or any) zoo. It shows they have the potential to fudge other announcements too.

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    Announced on FB, the cub is a female
     
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    Really good to see she is up and about :)


    The little female cub had several minor tumbles as she tried to keep up with mum, Milli.

    Zoo visitors were treated as the chunky youngster left her den and was seen exploring her heated indoor habitat, before the sleepy-eyed cub headed back to the den for some more cuddle-time.

    The new arrival is the first healthy cub for mum Milli and dad Toni who, as young bears, were both rescued from illegal wildlife traders in Cambodia who killed their mothers and kept them as mistreated pets.

    Now, the pair have completed their recovery and become parents to the UK’s first sun bear cub.
     
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