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Unfair criticism of Melbourne and Werribee Zoos "ABC animals"

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Grant Rhino, 24 May 2020.

  1. Grant Rhino

    Grant Rhino Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I would've edited my previous reply but the time to do so has elapsed.

    While MZ / WORZ have not imported new bloodlines of zebras, they have a very solid record when it comes to importing. Over the past five years, Zoos Victoria have imported the following (and these are just the ones I remember or know of):

    1x male gorilla (from Europe) to breed with the MZ females

    2x female lions (from Denmark) to breed with Johari (now deceased) at WORZ.

    2x young male baboons (from USA) to breed within the troop at MZ

    2x snow leopards (male from Germany, female from UK) to breed at MZ

    8 nyala (2 male, 6 female), from Singapore (from memory) via New Zealand.

    Since these bloodline imports, all five of these species have bred at WORZ or MZ. Zoos Victoria have scored 5 out of 5 from these imports.

    In an earlier post someone asked "What are Melbourne Zoo doing?".... Well this is what MZ have been doing.....
     
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  2. Zoofan15

    Zoofan15 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    On the subject of zebras, the Darling Downs Zoo import of Grant’s zebra was more significant than just enhancing the genetics of the regional population. It’s about sustaining what was once a decent regional population of purebred Grant’s zebra - that has since dwindled to a handful of animals (I’m aware of one mare at Hamilton Zoo; and a stallion at Keystone - if still alive).

    Starting in the 1960’s, Auckland Zoo made at least two imports of purebred Grant’s zebra - the descendants of which were distributed to Hamilton Zoo etc. By the mid 2000’s, rather than further inbreed their now mildly inbred stock; Auckland and Hamilton Zoo chose to import unrelated hybrid Plains zebra and therefore hybridise their herds.

    Zebras are not impossible to import (as we all know). There is really no excuse for zoos continuing to breed hybrids. If a few more zoos had taken the initiative to do this sooner, we could have a thriving regional breeding programme for Grant’s zebra. A generic zebra will draw the same crowds as a purebred Grant’s zebra; but it’s purebred counterpart will additionally hold genetic value as a captive insurance population.

    This isn’t a criticism directly solely at Zoos Victoria. Many major zoos have dropped the ball on this one; and let’s just thank our lucky stars DDZ caught it. I’ll watch with interest to see who it’s passed to - and if they run with it. :p
     
  3. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Your quite correct @Zoofan15 how can anyone not have criticism of ANY major zoo for breeding hybrids when they could import the pure species/subspecies there is no real reason not to this, these are state funded zoos they have the money, if a small guy can do a outstanding job of it the majors should be able to at least do the same but as you said they have dropped the ball on it so YES theres room for criticism
     
  4. nczoofan

    nczoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Looks suspiciously at the North American “generic” giraffe population. :D
     
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  5. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    At the end of the day almost all comes down to management with some zoos and zoo people who are outstanding in what they do while others can and should lift there game. Any well funded zoo should have a duty of care to breed are pure as possible, yes it is more difficult to import some animals into Australia but not really impossible
     
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