Zoo Tycoon Unnecessary Zoo Tycoon 2 Animals

I understand the moose and shark but you don’t use the wolf?

 

For whatever reason I'm not a fan of large canids other than Maned Wolf. I don't hate them but I don't really love them either. Maned Wolf I do particularly like for whatever reason. Now foxes I like, and that may partly be due to personal experiences with a couple species.

 

I agree partially. While I like all animals, some I feel are better then others from personal experience. Like, I love Sitatunga antelope because I once fed and petted one.

 

*hog deer, not dog deer

 

Zoo Tycoon 2 original pack:

Lion
Bengal Tiger
Jaguar
Cheetah
Snow Leopard
Amur Leopard
Chimpanzee
Western Lowland Gorilla
Ring Tailed Lemur
African Elephant
Spotted Hyena
Black Rhinoceros
Hippopotamus
Common Zebra
Thomson's Gazelle
Giant Anteater
Dromedary Camel
Moose
Ibex
Reticulated Giraffe
Okapi
Capybara
Red Kangaroo
Giant Panda
Red Panda
Polar Bear
Grizzly Bear
Musk Ox
Addax
Greater Flamingo
King Penguin
Nile Crocodile
American Bison
Przewalski's Wild Horse
Caribou
Baird's Tapir
Gray Wolf
African Wild Dog
Koala
Orangutan
Wolverine
Galapagos Giant Tortoise
Komodo Dragon
African Buffalo
Bongo
Wildebeest
Pygmy Hippopotamus
Warthog
Mandrill
Aardvark
Meerkat
California Sea Lion

Endangered Species:

Sonoran Pronghorn
Red-Crowned Crane
Tasmanian Devil
Golden Snub-Nosed Monkey
Diana Monkey
Scimitar-Horned Oryx
Dhole
Red-Shanked Douc
Chinese Pangolin
Lar Gibbon
Iberian Lynx
Binturong
Clouded Leopard
Florida Panther
Spanish Lynx
North Sulawesi Babirusa
Dama Gazelle
Dingo
Numbat
Asian Elephant

African Adventure:

Congo Buffalo
Serval
Gerenuk
Impala
Rock Hyrax
Crested Porcupine
Marabou
Red River Hog
African Penguin
Barbary Ape
Gelada
Caracal
Shoebill
African Civet
Ratel
Greater Kudu
Black-Backed Jackal
Common Eland
Nile Monitor
Secretary Bird
Gemsbok
Giant Sable Antelope
Fennec Fox

Marine Mania:

Bottlenose Dolphin
Beluga
Orca
Moonfish
Narwhal
Blue Whale
West Indian Manatee
Pacific Walrus
Marine Iguana
Sea Otter
Blue Marlin
Manta Ray
Great White Shark
Whale Shark
Scalloped Hammerhead Shark
Asian Small-Clawed Otter
Harbor Seal
Banded Sea Krait
Green Sea Turtle
Leatherback Sea Turtle

Extinct Animals:

Tyrannosaurus Rex
Carnotaurus
Spinosaurus
Velociraptor
Parasaurolophus
Inostravacenia
Triceratops
Maucrauchenia
Stegosaurus
Kentrosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Sarcosuchus
Dimetrodon
Dodo
Elephant Bird
Kelenken
Wooly Mammoth
Woolly Rhinoceros
Sabre-Toothed Cat
Elasmotherium
Paraceratherium
Giant Ground Sloth
Sivatherium
Brachiosaurus
Great Auk
Apatosaurus
Megaloceros
Glyptodon
Andrewsarchus
Thylacine
Daeodon

 

Not a bad list, but the Spanish Lynx IS the Iberian Lynx.

 

that's a great list, now i will make my own.

 

Zoo Tycoon 2 original pack:
Lion
Aardvark
African Elephant
Alpine Ibex
Bighorn Sheep
American Beaver
Saltwater Crocodile
African Wild Dog
Ring Tailed Lemur
White Rhinoceros
Binturong
Okapi
Bactrian Camel
Western Lowland Gorilla
Bald Eagle
Asian Small Clawed Otter
Capybara
Chimpanzee
American Bison
American Flamingo
Amur Leopard
Asian Water Monitor
Boa Constrictor
Blue Wildebeest
Bornean Orangutan
White Cheeked Gibbon
Lion Tailed Macaque
Black Handed Spider Monkey
Moose
Giant Panda
Grizzly Bear
Polar Bear
Jaguar
Brazilian Tapir
California Sea Lion
Cape Buffalo
Iberian Lynx
Toco Toucan
King Vulture
King Penguin
Hamadryas Baboon
Eurasian Eagle Owl
Cheetah
Galapagos Giant Tortoise
Komodo Dragon
Plains Zebra
Southern Giraffe
Gemsbok
Ostrich
Walrus
Spotted Hyena
Wolverine
Warthog
Meerkat
Saltwater Crocodile
Red Panda
Red Kangaroo
Red Fox
Red Deer
South American Coati
Red Eyed Tree Frog
Green Iguana
Green Anaconda
Lion
Bengal Tiger
Green Winged Macaw
Blue And Yellow Macaw
Mute Swan
King Vulture
Collared Peccary
Red Howler Monkey
Koala
Peafowl
Gray Wolf
Emu
Boa Constrictor
Giant Anteater
Llama
Serval
Snow Leopard
White Rumped Vulture

 

in my mind, i would do the same thing, in my opinion i don't think i would change something

 

At least Zoo Tycoon 2 doesn't have as many unnecessary animals as the Xbox version.

 

I agree with everything you said but if i could have the chance of change everything in zoo tycoon 2, i would just replace emperor penguin with the king penguin and insted of adding the bongo to the base game i would add the crested gibbon and the orangutan would no longer being the only primate from asia.

 

yes, you're right

 

Here’s my optimal base game roster:

Giant Anteater
Red Kangaroo
Koala
Ostrich
Indian Peafowl
Scarlet Macaw
Toco Toucan
Bald Eagle
Eurasian Eagle Owl
Snow Leopard
Eurasian Lynx
Puma
African Lion
Siberian Tiger
Jaguar
Cheetah
Spotted Hyena
Gray Wolf
American Black Bear
Grizzly Bear
Polar Bear
Red Panda
Giant Panda
California Sea Lion
African Elephant
White Rhinoceros
Meerkat
Reticulated Giraffe
Hippopotamus
Common Eland
Sable Antelope
Thompson’s Gazelle
Blue Wildebeest
Common Warthog
Moose
Caribou
Bongo
Impala
Bactrian Camel
American Bison
Cape Buffalo
Malayan Tapir
Bighorn Sheep
Sichuan Takin
Western Lowland Gorilla
Venezuelan Howler Monkey
Common Squirrel Monkey
Spider Monkey
Bornean Orangutan
Chimpanzee
Ring Tailed Lemur
Sea Otter
Plains Zebra
Preswalski’s Horse
American Beaver

 

as well as greater flamingos and african penguins, two animals I forgot for some reason

 

I thought it may be interesting to see which animals of ZT2 I have seen myself.
Zoo Tycoon 2 - Base Game
Grizzly Bear - None of the subspecies, but I have seen brown bears elsewhere, including Welsh Mountain Zoo in 2020
Polar Bear - Riga Zoo, Berlin Tierpark [I don't believe anywhere else?]
American Beaver - None
Dromedary Camel - Zoo de Labenne 2015
Cheetah - Berlin Tierpark, Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022, Marwell various years, Paignton 2022, I think Howletts 2019 too? Maybe more
Chimpanzee - Berlin Zoo 2022, Whipsnade Zoo 2021, Welsh Mountain Zoo 2020, Edinburgh Zoo / Jerusalem Biblical Zoo 2016
Nile Crocodile - Crocodiles of the World 2016/2022, probably also Jerusalem Biblical Zoo 2016
African Elephant - Howletts 2018, Paignton 2017, Tel Aviv Safari Park 2016 .. I don't think any more
Greater Flamingo - Too many examples to list, methinks
Thomson's Gazelle - Tel Aviv Safari 2016
Gemsbok - Berlin Zoo 2022, Whipsnade Zoo 2021
Reiculated Giraffe - Whipsnade?
Mountain Gorilla - None
Hippopotamus - Berlin Zoo 2022, Tel Aviv Safari 2016, Riga Zoo 2015
Ibex - Berlin Zoo + Berlin Tierpark 2022
Jaguar - Berlin Zoo 2022 + Chester Zoo 2017
Red Kangaroo - I believe Riga at one point or another
Ring-tailed Lemur - Too many examples to list
Snow Leopard - Marwell various years, Welsh Mountain Zoo 2020 I think as well, Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022
Lion - Various places, various years
Moose - Berlin Tierpark 2022, Latvia semi-captive at one point
Okapi - Marwell various years, Chester Zoo 2019, London Zoo 2016/2021, Berlin Zoo 2022
Ostrich - Tel Aviv Safari 2016, Paignton Zoo 2017, Marwell various years, Welsh Mountain Zoo 2020, Whipsnade Zoo 2021, Berlin Zoo 2022 [Cotswold Wildlife Park also?]
Giant Panda - Edinburgh 2016, Berlin Zoo 2022
Red Panda - Various places, various years
Indian Peafowl - Too many examples to list
Emperor Penguin - None
Black Rhinoceros - Howletts 2019, Paignton 2017
Bengal Tiger - None of these sub-species, but I have seen the species various times
Grant's Zebra - Too many examples to list
Addax - Marwell various years, Berlin Tierpark 2022
Asiatic Black Bear - Tel Aviv Safari 2016
Asiatic Elephant - Berlin Zoo 2022, Whipsnade Zoo 2021 [earlier years as well], Chester Zoo 2019, Tel Aviv Safari + Jerusalem Biblical Zoo 2016
Black Leopard - Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022
Muskox - Berlin Tierpark 2022
30/35 - Not bad !
Endangered Species
Giant Sable Antelope - None of this subspecies, though I have seen Sable Antelope on few occasions
Spectacled Bear - Chester Zoo 2019
American Bison - Berlin Tierpark + Berlin Zoo 2022
Caribou - None of the barren-ground species ingame, nor of any North American sub/species. I have seen domestic and Eurasian reindeer on various occasions.
Fennec - Berlin Zoo 2022, Tel Aviv 2016, Probably Riga Zoo 201X as well
Crested Gibbon - As per recent changes in taxonomy, none - though the older scientific name and animal ingame seems to refer to the Northern White-Cheeked Gibbon, which I have seen.
Przewalski's Wild Horse - Berlin Tierpark 2022, Whipsnade 2021, Welsh Mountain Zoo 2020, Marwell various years, any more?
Koala - Edinburgh 2016
Komodo Dragon - Crocodiles of the World 2022, London Zoo 2021, Tel Aviv 2016
Spanish Lynx - None
Markhor - Berlin Tierpark 2022
Orangutan - Berlin Zoo 2022, Chester Zoo + Paignton Zoo 2017, Tel Aviv Safari + Jerusalem Biblical Zoo 2016
Scimitar-horned Oryx - Marwell various years, Berlin Zoo 2022 [I think also Tel Aviv]
Florida Panther - None
Javan Rhinoceros - None
Baird's Tapir - None
Galapagos Giant Tortoise - Crocodiles of the World 2022, possibly also Riga Zoo
African Wild Dog - Berlin Zoo 2022, London 2021 [I think 2016 too?], Chester Zoo 2019, I'm not sure any more
Gray Wolf - Most recently at Cotswolds Wildlife Park 2023, though other places as well probably
Wolverine - Cotswolds Wildlife Park various years, and also Whipsnade Zoo 2021
13/20 Mm... could be better
African Adventure
Aardvark - Chester 2019, London Zoo 2016
Barbary Ape - Edinburgh 2016
Secretary Bird - None that I can recall
Bongo - Marwell various years, Whipsnade 2021, and also Berlin Zoo 2022
African Buffalo - I have seen the Savannah subspecies at Tierpark Berlin, and the Congo species at the Tierpark, Berlin Zoo, Marwell, Chester possibly
Caracal - Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022
Gelada - Berlin Tierpark 2022, Howletts 2019
Gerenuk - Berlin Tierpark 2022
Masai Giraffe - None
Pygmy Hippopotamus - Marwell various years, Bristol Zoo 2018, Edinburgh 2016, London 2016, Berlin Zoo 2022
Striped Hyaena - Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022
Mandrill - I believe only at Jerusalem Biblical Zoo and Tel Aviv Safari in 2016
Meerkat - Far too many examples to list
Nile Monitor - I don't think I have
Ratel - Howletts 2019, Wildkatzenzentrum Felidae 2022
White Rhinoceros - Cotswolds Wildlife Park various years, Marwell various years, Whipsnade 2021, Tel Aviv Safari 2016, Any more?
African Spurred Tortoise - Crocodiles of the World 2016 [possibly 2022], possibly elsewhere given their regularity
Warthog - London [2016, 2021, earlier?], Berlin Zoo [2022], Marwell? [at most, probably a small amount of warthog behind the house walls]
Wildebeest - Tel Aviv Safari 2016
Ethiopian Wolf - None
16/20 - Looks good !
Marine Mania
Rockhopper Penguin - Whipsnade Zoo 2021
California Sea Lion - Welsh Mountain Zoo 2020
Blacktip Reef Shark - Various aquaria, most recently at Berlin Zoo-Aquarium in 2022
Green Sea Turtle - I believe Biarritz Aquarium at one point or another
[literally just these 4 - I don't believe I have seen any of the others in this pack.]
4/20 [well, they included narwhals and goblin sharks .. am I to blame?]
Extinct Animals

0/36 - You expected any more?

 

I started playing Zoo Tycoon 2 again this week, and wanted to share my thoughts on this old thread. My main focus is on the species roster for Marine Mania, since in my opinion this is one of the species rosters that needs the most work (how does it include zero fish, besides sharks and rays?!).

First of all, I would remove the following 8 species from the game’s original animal roster:

1. Great White Shark (Benthic)
2. Goblin Shark (Benthic)
3. Blue Marlin (Pelagic)
4. Leatherback Sea Turtle (Pelagic)
5. Narwhal (Tundra)
6. False Killer Whale (Coastal)
7. Short-Finned Pilot Whale (Pelagic)
8. Rockhopper Penguin (Coastal)

Many of those species (the 2 shark species, marlin, narwhal, and leatherback sea turtle) would be replaced for the sake of realism, since those species are all generally not successful in captivity in real life. The false killer whale and short-finned pilot whale would be removed for the sake of taxonomic diversity, since the game does not need 6 different types of cetaceans.

Now, I will detail my plan for what to replace those 8 species with.

Four of the empty slots will be used for large fish species. In my opinion, the lack of non-shark fish is one of the major downfalls of Marine Mania, so I wanted to address that here. I primarily chose larger fish, since I wanted them to be relatively easily visible in large tanks in the game. Here is the roster:

1. Bluefin Tuna (Pelagic)
2. Great Barracuda (Pelagic)
3. Goliath Grouper (Reef)
4. Green Moray Eel (Reef)

With the addition of those 4 fish, there would still be space for 4 more animals to be added to the game. Here is what I would choose, and why:

1. Harbor Seal (Coastal)- this is one of the most common pinnipeds in captivity (at least in the US), so it felt weird for it to be excluded.
2. African Penguin (Coastal)- I would replace rockhopper penguins with this species, since they are more common in zoos.
3. Giant Pacific Octopus (Benthic)- To add more taxonomic diversity to Marine Mania, I would introduce the game’s first cephalopod.
4. Japanese Spider Crab (Benthic)- In a similar vein to the addition of the octopus, this species would add diversity by introducing the first crustacean to the game.

In all, here is the full list of species I would add to my version of Marine Mania, organized by taxonomy. The 8 species I have added are in red, and the original 12 species are in black:

1. African Penguin (Coastal)
2. Giant Pacific Octopus (Benthic)
3. Japanese Spider Crab (Benthic)
4. Beluga Whale (Tundra)
5. Bottlenose Dolphin (Coastal)
6. Orca (Tundra)
7. California Sea Lion (Coastal)
8. Harbor Seal (Coastal)
9. Pacific Walrus (Tundra)
10. Sea Otter (Coastal)
11. West Indian Manatee (Coastal)
12. Bluefin Tuna (Pelagic)
13. Goliath Grouper (Reef)
14. Great Barracuda (Pelagic)
15. Green Moray Eel (Reef)
16. Manta Ray (Reef)
17. Green Sea Turtle (Coastal)
18. Blacktip Reef Shark (Reef)
19. Scalloped Hammerhead (Pelagic)
20. Whale Shark (Benthic)

Overall, my new list includes 1 bird, 2 invertebrates, 8 marine mammals, 4 fishes, 1 ray, 1 reptile, and 3 sharks. There are 7 coastal species, 3 benthic species, 3 tundra species, 3 pelagic species, and 4 reef species.

So, that is the list I would go with. However, there were a few honorable mentions of animals I would have included if I could put more than 20 in the expansion pack:

1. Tufted Puffin (Tundra)- I would have liked to include more seabirds in the expansion pack. If included, Puffins would be made flightless, since adding flying mechanics is too complex for the game. A pelican species, rather than puffins, was also considered as a bird possibility.
2. Cow Nose Ray (Coastal)- These rays are incredibly common in aquariums, especially in touch tanks, so I would have liked to include them here.
3. Spotted Eagle Ray (Reef)- This was another ray I would have liked to include, because of their beautiful patterns.
4. Largetooth Sawfish (Coastal)- I almost included this species, but replaced it with the Japanese Spider Crab at the very last minute. Their unusual morphology makes them very attractive, and after removing Narwhals and Marlins from the game, it would have felt good to add a different sea creature with a long facial protuberance.
5. Sand Tiger Shark (Coastal)- This is another species I would have liked to include because of how common it is in large aquariums. Nurse sharks were another possibility for another coastal shark species as well.
6. Zebra Shark (Reef)- This is another shark species common in captivity, and their spotted patterns would make them an attractive exhibit animal.
7. Pacific White Sided Dolphin (Pelagic)- If I were to include a fourth cetacean species, this would be it. The cool patterns on these dolphins make them more interesting to me than other cetaceans like pilot whales or false killer whales, for instance. Unfortunately there just wasn’t enough space for another cetacean on the list.
8. Ocean Sunfish (Pelagic)- This was another species that I cut from the list at the last minute. They are a very cool species due to their unusual morphology, but I felt the other fish I added were more valuable inclusions.

 

Here's a list of animals I would've included in the base game of Zoo Tycoon 2:

1. African Buffalo (Syncerus caffer) (Savanna)
2. African Bush Elephant (Loxodonta africana) (Savanna)
3. Alpine Ibex (Capra ibex) (Mountain)
4. American Alligator (Alligator mississippiensis) (Wetland)
5. American Bison (Bison bison) (Grassland)
6. American Black Bear (Ursus americanus) (Deciduous Forest)
7. Arctic Wolf (Canis lupus arctos) (Tundra)
8. Asian Elephant (Elephas maximus) (Tropical Rainforest)
9. Bengal Tiger (Panthera tigris tigris) (Tropical Rainforest)
10. Bighorn Sheep (Ovis canadensis) (Mountain)
11. Black Rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis) (Savanna)
12. Blue Wildebeest (Connochaetes taurinus) (Savanna)
13. California Sea Lion (Zalophus californianus) (Coast)
14. Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus) (Savanna)
15. Clouded Leopard (Neofelis nebulosa) (Tropical Rainforest)
16. Common Chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) (Tropical Rainforest)
17. Common Hippopotamus (Hippopotamus amphibius) (Savanna)
18. Common Ostrich (Struthio camelus) (Savanna)
19. Common Warthog (Phacochoerus africanus) (Savanna)
20. Dromedary Camel (Camelus dromedarius) (Desert)
21. Eastern Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla beringei graueri) (Tropical Rainforest)
22. Eastern Wolf (Canis lupus lycaon) (Coniferous Forest)
23. Emperor Penguin (Aptenodytes forsteri) (Tundra)
24. Gemsbok (Oryx gazella) (Shrubland)
25. Giant Anteater (Myrmecophaga tridactyla) (Tropical Rainforest)
26. Giant Panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca) (Deciduous Forest)
27. Greater Flamingo (Phoenicopterus roseus) (Savanna)
28. Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis) (Coniferous Forest)
29. Indian Peafowl (Pavo cristatus) (Deciduous Forest)
30. Jaguar (Panthera onca) (Tropical Rainforest)
31. Leopard (Panthera pardus) (Savanna)
32. Lion (Panthera leo) (Savanna)
33. Mandrill (Mandrillus sphinx) (Tropical Rainforest)
34. Markhor (Capra falconeri) (Mountain)
35. Moose (Alces alces) (Coniferous Forest)
36. Nile Crocodile (Crocodylus niloticus) (Savanna)
37. North American Beaver (Castor canadensis) (Coniferous Forest)
38. Okapi (Okapia johnstoni) (Tropical Rainforest)
39. Olive Baboon (Papio anubis) (Savanna)
40. Plains Zebra (Equus quagga) (Savanna)
41. Polar Bear (Ursus maritimus) (Tundra)
42. Red Kangaroo (Osphranter rufus) (Shrubland)
43. Red Panda (Ailurus fulgens) (Deciduous Forest)
44. Reticulated Giraffe (Giraffa reticulata) (Savanna)
45. Ring-Tailed Lemur (Lemur catta) (Tropical Rainforest)
46. Saltwater Crocodile (Crocodylus porosus) (Coast)
47. Siberian Tiger (Panthera tigris altaica) (Coniferous Forest)
48. Snow Leopard (Panthera uncia) (Mountain)
49. Spotted Hyena (Crocuta crocuta) (Savanna)
50. Thomson’s Gazelle (Eudorcas thomsonii) (Savanna)

As you can tell, I changed the common names, scientific names, and biome names to be slightly more accurate to what we currently know as well as updating the animal roster somewhat.