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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by johnstoni., 26 Aug 2011.

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  1. Ebirah766

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    Huh. A lot of water. They better keep that cooled.
     
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    A very legitimate question that should not only be asked about walruses in Thailand, but above all about snow leopards, takins, giant pandas or musk oxen in, for example, San Diego or in the new dry season in Central Europe. At least walruses still have a good opportunity to cool off - snow opards and musk ox don't like to go into the water.;)
     
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    I like the huge landpart in that exhibit-and, of course the pirate ship.
     
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    We do ask those questions, all the time :p That doesn't mean it's not a valid concern here as well ;)

    ~Thylo
     
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    I totally agree that the heat is terrible for wlaruses and keeeping them in Thailand is a stupid idea. But Nothern Mexico was even theght of the Glacial Maximum still consideredsub-tropical. I was only talking about extinct prehistorc walruses and seals.. And Ebirah766's and RatioTile's questions about them.
    I never even tried to talk about the the modern species (Odobenus rosmarus) or defending this idea at all. It is allready hard enough to keep them succesfull in much colder climates. Keeping them in Thailand will not work well, espically in breeding them.
     
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    There is a very simple solution to the problem. Keep animals only kept indoors, as is done with pandas. Or with hippos, tapirs, great apes. Then you can also keep walrus or polar bears in Thailand. Outdoor enclosures are overrated anyway. Whether the walruses in Thailand are worse off than the musk oxen in Germany in the dry season or the takins and pandas in San Diego is an open question.
     
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    Just noting that this part of the thread was started with the birth of a Walrus calf in Thailand...
     
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    Olga was quite special.

    I know breeding of walruses had been a bust for a while, but it would be nice for Brookfield to somehow get a new one sometime down the line.
     
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    From doing some research it seems like a lot of walruses in captivity have stillbirths or die rather early deaths (they can live up to 40 years in the wild). What are some reasons they are hard to keep?
     
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    It has been seven months since the global captive walrus population was updated so the following post will publicize the current census.

    Canada
    Marineland Canada - Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
    1.0 Unknown (Apollo × Smooshi) 2020.06.01
    0.1 Smooshi (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00

    Aquarium du Québec - Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
    1.0 Boris (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    1.0 Balzak (Boris × Samka) 2016.05.23
    0.1 Arnaliaq (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00
    0.1 Lakina (Boris × Arnaliaq) 2016.05.07

    United States
    SeaWorld San Diego - San Diego, California, United States
    1.0 Dozer (Illiyak × Tumuk) 1993.06.21
    0.1 Basilla (WILD × WILD) 1983.00.00
    0.1 Kulusiq (WILD × WILD) 1994.00.00
    0.1 Uquq (WILD × WILD) 1994.00.00
    0.1 Chouchou (Takku × Mikku) 2010.05.05

    SeaWorld Orlando - Orlando, Florida, United States
    1.0 Garfield (WILD × WILD) 1982.00.00
    0.1 Slowpoke (WILD × WILD) 1977.00.00
    0.1 Aurora (WILD × WILD) 1995.00.00
    0.1 Kaboodle (Obie × Kitkatska) 2003.05.01
    0.1 Kora (Garfield × Kaboodle) 2019.07.03

    Indianapolis Zoo - Indianapolis, Indiana, United States
    1.0 Aku (WILD × WILD) 2017.00.00
    0.1 Ginger (Garfield × Kaboodle) 2017.06.03

    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium - Tacoma, Washington, United States
    1.0 Pakak (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00
    1.0 Mitik (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00
    Belgium
    Pairi Daiza - Brugelette, Hainaut, Belgium
    1.0 Thor (Odin × Dyna) 2014.06.15
    0.1 Petrushka (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00

    Germany
    Tierpark Hagenbeck - Eimsbuttel, Hamburg, Germany
    1.0 Odin (WILD × WILD) 1996.00.00
    1.0 Fiete (Odin × Polosa) 2019.05.05
    0.1 Dyna (WILD × WILD) 1996.00.00
    0.1 Polosa (WILD × WILD) 1996.00.00
    0.1 Ninotchka (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00
    0.1 Tanya (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00
    0.1 Raisa (Igor × Rossita) 2004.06.22

    Netherlands
    Dolfinarium Harderwijk - Harderwijk, Gelderland, Netherlands
    1.0 Nikolai (Igor × Olga) 1995.06.17
    0.1 Olga (WILD × WILD) 1982.00.00
    0.1 Rossita (WILD × WILD) 1995.00.00
    0.1 Olivia (Odin × Polosa) 2008.07.04

    Russia - European
    Aquatoria Yalta - Yalta, Crimea, Russia
    1.0 Saltan (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00
    1.5 Unknown (WILD × WILD) 2018.00.00

    Anapa Dolphinarium - Anapa, Krasnodar, Russia
    0.1 Nyusha (WILD × WILD) 2007.00.00

    Morskaya Zvezda Dolphinarium - Bolshoy Sochi, Krasnodar, Russia
    1.0 Funtik (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00
    1.0 Benedikt (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00

    Gelendzhik Dolphinarium - Gelendzhik, Krasnodar, Russia
    0.1 Antonina (WILD × WILD) 2006.00.00

    St. Petersburg Dolphinarium - St. Petersburg, Leningrad, Russia
    1.0 Svyatogor (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00
    1.0 Yakut (WILD × WILD) 2017.00.00
    0.1 Sonya (WILD × WILD) 2002.00.00
    0.1 Frosya (WILD × WILD) 2016.00.00
    0.1 Lyalechka (WILD × WILD) 2017.00.00
    0.1 Lyusya (WILD × WILD) 2017.00.00

    Moskvarium - Moscow, Moscow, Russia
    0.1 Lora (WILD × WILD) 2011.00.00

    Udmurtia Zoo - Izhevsk, Udmurtia, Russia
    1.0 Enurmin (WILD × WILD) 2006.00.00
    0.1 Eva (WILD × WILD) 2006.00.00
    0.1 Neseyka (WILD × WILD) 2007.00.00

    Yaroslavl Dolphinarium - Dubki, Yaroslavl, Russia
    1.0 Potap (WILD × WILD) 2013.00.00
    0.1 Nastya (WILD × WILD) 2013.00.00
    China
    Sanya Haichang Fantasy Town - Sanya, Hainan, China
    0.0 Huanhuan (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00
    0.0 Gaiya (WILD × WILD) 2012.00.00

    Harbin Polarland - Harbin, Heilongjiang, China
    1.0 Yinuo (WILD × WILD) 2009.00.00
    0.1 Yiwa (WILD × WILD) 2009.00.00

    Hong Kong Ocean Park - Southern District, Hong Kong, China
    1.0 Rokku (Takku × Mukku) 2003.06.01
    0.1 Miru (WILD × WILD) 1999.00.00

    Royal Ocean Park - Fushun, Liaoning, China
    1.0 Adamu (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Gelusha (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Wuma (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00

    Shendiao Mountain Wildlife Park - Rongcheng, Shandong, China
    1.0 Anan (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00
    0.1 Pingping (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00

    Yantai Haichang Ocean Park - Yantai, Shandong, China
    1.0 Aosika (WILD × WILD) 2013.00.00

    Shanghai Haichang Ocean Park - Putuo, Shanghai, China
    1.0 Luobote (WILD × WILD) 2000.00.00
    0.1 Feier (WILD × WILD) 2001.00.00

    Chengdu Haichang Ocean Park - Chengdu, Sichuan, China
    1.0 Badun (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00

    Hangzhou Changqiao Ocean Park - Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China
    0.1 Marus (WILD × WILD) 2011.00.00

    Ningbo Ocean World - Ningbo, Zhejiang, China
    0.1 Dudu (WILD × WILD) 2009.00.00

    Iran
    Kish Dolphin Park - Kish, Hormozgan, Iran
    0.1 Donya (WILD × WILD) 2009.00.00

    Japan
    Minamichita Beach Land - Mihama, Aichi, Japan
    1.0 Kikku (Takku × Mukku) 1997.05.27
    0.1 Sakura (WILD × WILD) 1998.00.00

    Kamogawa Sea World - Kamogawa, Chiba, Japan
    1.0 Riku (Takku × Mikku) 2013.04.23
    0.1 Mina (Takku × Mikku) 2007.05.20
    0.1 Shizuku (Uchio × Urya) 2016.04.06
    0.1 Lilou (Takku × Mikku) 2016.05.01
    0.1 Nanoha (Takku × Mina) 2020.03.13

    Otaru Aquarium - Otaru, Hokkaido, Japan
    1.0 Uchio (WILD × WILD) 1990.00.00
    0.1 Urya (WILD × WILD) 1991.00.00

    Kinosaki Marine World - Toyooka, Hyogo, Japan
    0.1 Guri (WILD × WILD) 1997.00.00
    0.1 Sora (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00

    Hakkeijima Sea Paradise - Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan
    1.0 Seita (WILD × WILD) 1991.00.00
    0.1 Uchi (WILD × WILD) 1991.00.00
    0.1 Moko (WILD × WILD) 1995.00.00
    0.1 Piko (WILD × WILD) 1995.00.00
    0.1 Ako (WILD × WILD) 2002.00.00

    Ise Sea Paradise - Ise, Mie, Japan
    0.1 Himawari (WILD × WILD) 2001.00.00
    0.1 Tanpopo (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00

    Toba Aquarium - Toba, Mie, Japan
    1.0 Pou (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    1.0 Ten (Pou × Kuu) 2020.06.20
    0.1 Kuu (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Tsurara (Uchio × Urya) 2009.05.31

    Oita Marine Palace Aquarium - Oita, Oita, Japan
    0.1 Bubu (WILD × WILD) 2001.00.00
    0.1 Mii (WILD × WILD) 2001.00.00
    0.1 Izumi (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00

    Izu Mito Sea Paradise - Numazu, Shizuoka, Japan
    0.1 Snow (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00

    Russia - Asian
    Center of Oceanography & Marine Biology - Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia
    0.1 Tika (WILD × WILD) 2011.00.00

    Primorsky Oceanarium - Russkiy, Primorsky, Russia
    1.0 Misha (WILD × WILD) 2010.00.00

    South Korea
    Aqua Planet Ilsan - Goyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea
    0.1 Meli (WILD × WILD) 2010.00.00

    Aqua Planet Jeju - Seogwipo, Jeju, South Korea
    0.1 Barya (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00

    Thailand
    Safari World - Khlong Sam Wa, Bangkok, Thailand
    1.0 Boria (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Tata (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Yaris (WILD × WILD) 2005.00.00
    0.1 Unknown (Boria × Tata) 2020.06.18

    Turkey
    Land of Legends Theme Park - Kadriye, Antalya, Turkey
    0.1 Silva (WILD × WILD) 2003.00.00

    Istanbul Dolphinarium - Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey
    1.0 Lolik (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00
    0.1 Sara (WILD × WILD) 2004.00.00
    Egypt
    Dolphin World Egypt - Hurghada, Red Sea, Egypt
    0.1 Lila (WILD × WILD) 2009.00.00
    China
    Fuzhou Yongtai Ocean World - Fuzhou, Fujian, China
    1.1.0 (2) Unknown

    Grandview Aquarium - Guangzhou, Guangdong, China
    0.1.2 (3) Unknown

    Chimelong Ocean Kingdom - Zhuhai, Guangdong, China
    0.0.14 (14) Unknown

    Nanning Rongji Ocean World - Nanning, Guangxi, China
    1.0.0 (1) Unknown

    Tianjin Haichang Ocean Park - Tianjin, Hebei, China
    2.0.0 (2) Unknown

    Wuhan Haichang Ocean World - Wuhan, Hubei, China
    1.0.0 (1) Unknown

    Dalian Laohutan Ocean Park - Dalian, Liaoning, China
    1.1.0 (2) Unknown

    Dalian Sun Asia Ocean World - Dalian, Liaoning, China
    1.1.1 (3) Unknown

    Royal Ocean Park - Fushun, Liaoning, China
    0.1 Doris (Adamu × Gelusha) 2017.06.13

    Xian Huaxia Ocean Park - Xian, Shaanxi, China
    1.0.1 (2) Unknown

    Quancheng Ocean Aquarium - Dezhou, Shandong, China
    1.0.0 (1) Unknown

    Qingdao Haichang Ocean Park - Qingdao, Shandong, China
    0.0.2 (2) Unknown

    Weihai Shenyou Sea World - Weihai, Shandong, China
    0.0.1 (1) Unknown

    Penglai Ocean Aquarium - Yantai, Shandong, China
    0.0.2 (2) Unknown

    Source: Walrus Network
    Credit: @Walrus Network
     
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    Tania has been transferred from Hamburg to Pairi Daiza. Link to Facebook report provided in my news thread post, quoted below.

     
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    Any news on the fourth one? Has she stayed in Hamburg and may be pregnant?
     
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    Safari World - Khlong Sam Wa, Bangkok, Thailand
    0.1 Unknown (Boria × Tata) 2020.06.18
    Her name is "New normal"
     
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    December 2020 US transfers (known to me thus far) :

    0.1 Uquq and 1.0 Pakak arrived at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom from SeaWorld San Diego and the Point Defiance Zoo, respectively

    1.0 Mitik returned to SeaWorld San Diego from the Point Defiance Zoo
     
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    China may have walrus in these Institutions:
    Harbin Polarland
    Dalian Laohutan Ocean Park
    Sun Asia Ocean World And Polar World
    Royal Ocean Park
    Tianjin Haichang Polar Ocean Park
    Qingdao Haichang Polar Ocean Park
    Yantai Haichang Whale Shark Ocean Park
    Penglai Ocean Polar World
    Quancheng Ocean Polar World
    Shendiaoshan Wildlife Park
    Hangzhou Changqiao Polar Ocean Park
    Chengdu Haichang Polar Ocean Park
    Wuhan Haichang Polar Ocean Park
    Ningbo Ocean World
    Shanghai Haichang Ocean Park
    Fuzhou Yongtai Oulebao Ocean World
    Chimelong Ocean Kingdom
    Grandview Mall Aquarium (Zhengjia Polar Ocean World)
    Hongkong Ocean Park
     
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    What is this based on? That'd be quite a few additional walrus if even half these had them
     
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    All of these facilities house walrus plus an additional three or so others -- I've visually confirmed 49 walruses in China, at the very, absolute least, over the course of 2020, with a true count likely in the 60s (Chimelong Ocean Kingdom alone had over 14 pups at one point)
     
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    How fitting