Just wondering, what species would you import to Australia if given the chance, regardless of laws or cost. Here is my list: Caiman Lizard Red-eyed Cocodile Skink Kakapo Kea Kagu Antipodes Island Parakeet Potoo Brown Kiwi Horned Parakeet Capuchin Bird Williams Blue Cave Gecko Tuatara Cloven-featherd Dove Raggiana bird-of-paradise King Of Saxony bird-of-paradise Superb bird-of-paradise Web-footed Gecko Fossa Falanoka Indri Papuan Hornbill Secretary Bird Red-legged Serima Tooth-billed Pigeon
Seriously????!!!! Nothing against those species you have listed BUT if you have free hand to import any species I bet that most people would list others like: African Elephants Flamingos (any species) Babirousa and other exotic pigs/swine Antilopes and Gazelles that are not represented in Australia at the moment (e. g. Gerenuks) Cape Buffalo and other exotic bovines Sloth Bears Okapis Grevyzebras Giant River Otter Walruss AND (for refreshing blood lines/lift the current stock) MORE Polarbears Common and Pygmy Hippos Small cats Leopards Bongos and other Antilopes Black Rhinos Indian One horned Rhinos Hyenas King Penguins Komodo Dragons Wild Dog Species etc. Others - like sloths, hyraxes, skunks, armadillos, condors - would be interesting too but I don't know if they can be seen in Australia already.
SERIOUSLY!!!!???? A kid lists two dozen species of birds, mammals and reptiles (mostly birds) not presently found in Australian zoos, many of which are endangered in the wild or rare in captivity, and you think your mammal-centric list is better? He's told us what species he finds interesting and your respose of "Seriously???!!!" strongly implies that he is completely wrong. And then stating what "most people would list" just reinforces that point. Well, maybe most people would list the animals you suggested. I wouldn't (except maybe a couple of them). But if you and animal_expert01 each had a zoo stocked with all the species you each listed, most Zoochatters would be going to animal_expert01's zoo. Hix
Undoubtedly,animals_expert01's zoo is more interesting,but in reality it is not that possible to happen.If you want to have more people to visit your zoo,zoomaniac's zoo is better as it cover more popular animal.I don't mean animals_expert01's zoo is not good,I would love the visit it absolutely, zoomaniac's zoo is more feasible and more profitable.I mean,there is more ordinary people in the world(or Australia) than zoochatters.Hix is right that you shouldn't said "seriously" though.
Okay, guys. If you are just upset by the word "seriously"... it wasn't meant that harsh, and it doesn't mean that there is anything "wrong". I absolutely respect animal_expert01 opinion/wish. It should just impress how astonished I was (and still am - Unfortunately, written messages do still not transport the "sound"). But: If I had to live in Australia (again: no offense), I would like to see more popular animals and I'm convinced most Australians (zoofreaks or not) share my opinion. And for @Hix especially: Cool down. I had the focus on species that average zoo vistors like (and miss). And average zoo vistors are the ones that keep a zoo running. (Beside that: Even you had to confess that most people would choose my list). Also - refer to your "bet" about most zoochatters - Giant River Otters and Walruss would be at least as interesting for AUSTRALIAN Zoo Chatters who ARE NOT ABLE to travel around the world as Indri and Fanaloka (while a trip to NZL and see Kea, Tuatara and Co. would be affordable for many, if not the majority). Beside that: How should I have known that animal_expert01 is a kid and why should this have an impact of his opinion and my reply?
I like how people are referring to @animal_expert01's Zoo and @zoomaniac's Zoo like both gentleman have busily spent the last few years obtaining planning permission, constructing infrastructure and stocking their zoos with animals in time for the imminent grand opening. And how people may or not visit one of their zoos. I say we get charter a large bus, write ZooChat on it and fill it with ZooChatters (each one as opinionated as the last) and drive it to each zoo, giving it a fair and independent review, the final verdict of the people on the bus being the sole determinent of whether the zoo will be a success. And no, nobody will be swayed by free ice cream!
@Zoofan15: lol You're right. We should take that with a good portion of humor (first, my intention was to write "less seriously" but then....)
If your goal is to restore blood-lines, this would be a better list: Jungle Fowl Razor-billed Currasow Andean Condor Green Peafowl Greater Rhea Chilean Flamingo Canada Goose Mute Swan Brazilian Tapir Malayan Tapir Guanaco Collared Peccary White-fronted Lemur Eurasian Brown Bear Leopard Ocelot African Forest Buffalo Sulawesi Black Macaque Puma Barton's Long-beaked Echidna Capybara Brazillian Agouti Common Coati Pacific Harbour Seal Spotted Hyena African Hunting Dog Fishing Cat All of this animals are in desperate need of some more genetic material or more individuals of breeding age.
No objection, although I allow myself to see your list more as an extension, also because some of those you mentioned are actually on my list already. I'm amazed (is this word okay?) that there are still Flamingos and Peccaries in (an) Australian zoo(s). Thought they all died out.
There is only one ancient flamingo in Australia, a Chilean at Adelaide Zoo, last time I went to Melbourne Zoo quite a number of the peccaries were still alive, but that was several years ago. Flamingos cannot be imported, so when this last remaining individual dies out the species will become extinct in Australia. Collard peccaries however can be imported with a license.
peccaries cannot be imported to Australia. And "rejuvenating bloodlines" isn't an apt description when you are talking about a single remaining specimen (e.g. the flamingo or curassow) or post-reproductive individuals (e.g. the rheas). @zoomaniac - check the stickied lists at the top of the Australia forum for the mammals and birds still in the country and the populations' general origins.
Yes, they can. The picture down below is the live import list requiring an import list posted by the Australian Government. https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2015C00959
A) You edited your post after I said that B) That link states that the information within has been superseded.
This has been pretty mammal-centred so far. As a birdkeeper, if I had to live in Australia, I would miss many bird species that are avicultural staples elsewhere, and are gone from Oz. My list would include Carolina Wood Duck, Crowned Crane (either species or both), Ruddy Shelduck, Himalayan Monal, Nicobar Pigeon, Pekin Robin, Red-breasted Goose, Shama, Eagle-owl (any species), Flamingo (any species). I would also look at refreshing the bloodlines of the few pheasant species still in Australian aviculture.
I'd import (bearing in mind this is regardless of laws or costs): Mammals African Elephant Common Hippopotamus Pygmy Hippopotamus Indian One Horned Rhino Rothschild's Giraffe Okapi Bongo Collared Peccary Babirusa Malayan Tapir Polar Bear Malayan Sun Bear Giant Panda Timber Wolf Amur Leopard Persian Leopard Jaguar Temminck's Golden Cat Fishing Cat Caracal Sumatran Orangutan Common Chimpanzee Mandrill Chacma Baboon Birds Tawny Owl Snowy Owl Rhea Andean Condor Greater Flamingo Reptiles Komodo Dragon King Cobra
If the free ice cream bar is to prove a popular and competitive exhibit, perhaps the two zoos could advise what ice cream flavours they plan to import.
As an ape nerd, having bonobos in the region would be incredible. I'd like to see more chimpanzees imported, perhaps from the US, as they manage the species as a whole rather than species, the same as Australasia. My list is unfortunately rather boring and mammally, but laying aside practicalities, I'd love to see imports of any of the following: Okapi (housed alongside the bonobos in a big, green Congo exhibit) Aye-aye Drill Striped hyena Amur Leopard... or any other leopard to be honest Golden Snub-nosed Monkey Dusky/Spectacled Langur Clouded Leopard Brown bear (Syrian?) Giant Anteater Tamandua Woolly Monkey Red or Black Howler Monkey Andean/Spectacled Bear Tuatara Kakapo Kiwi
