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What Species Would You Import To Australia?

Discussion in 'Australia' started by animal_expert01, 14 Jun 2017.

  1. animal_expert01

    animal_expert01 Well-Known Member

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    Just wondering, what species would you import to Australia if given the chance, regardless of laws or cost. Here is my list:
    Caiman Lizard
    Red-eyed Cocodile Skink
    Kakapo
    Kea
    Kagu
    Antipodes Island Parakeet
    Potoo
    Brown Kiwi
    Horned Parakeet
    Capuchin Bird
    Williams Blue Cave Gecko
    Tuatara
    Cloven-featherd Dove
    Raggiana bird-of-paradise
    King Of Saxony bird-of-paradise
    Superb bird-of-paradise
    Web-footed Gecko
    Fossa
    Falanoka
    Indri
    Papuan Hornbill
    Secretary Bird
    Red-legged Serima
    Tooth-billed Pigeon
     
  2. zoomaniac

    zoomaniac Well-Known Member

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    Seriously????!!!!

    Nothing against those species you have listed BUT if you have free hand to import any species I bet that most people would list others like:

    African Elephants
    Flamingos (any species)
    Babirousa and other exotic pigs/swine
    Antilopes and Gazelles that are not represented in Australia at the moment (e. g. Gerenuks)
    Cape Buffalo and other exotic bovines
    Sloth Bears
    Okapis
    Grevyzebras
    Giant River Otter
    Walruss

    AND (for refreshing blood lines/lift the current stock) MORE
    Polarbears
    Common and Pygmy Hippos
    Small cats
    Leopards
    Bongos and other Antilopes
    Black Rhinos
    Indian One horned Rhinos
    Hyenas
    King Penguins
    Komodo Dragons
    Wild Dog Species
    etc.

    Others - like sloths, hyraxes, skunks, armadillos, condors - would be interesting too but I don't know if they can be seen in Australia already.
     
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  3. Hix

    Hix Wildlife Enthusiast and Lover of Islands Premium Member

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    SERIOUSLY!!!!????

    A kid lists two dozen species of birds, mammals and reptiles (mostly birds) not presently found in Australian zoos, many of which are endangered in the wild or rare in captivity, and you think your mammal-centric list is better?

    He's told us what species he finds interesting and your respose of "Seriously???!!!" strongly implies that he is completely wrong. And then stating what "most people would list" just reinforces that point.

    Well, maybe most people would list the animals you suggested. I wouldn't (except maybe a couple of them). But if you and animal_expert01 each had a zoo stocked with all the species you each listed, most Zoochatters would be going to animal_expert01's zoo.

    Hix
     
  4. aardvark250

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    Undoubtedly,animals_expert01's zoo is more interesting,but in reality it is not that possible to happen.If you want to have more people to visit your zoo,zoomaniac's zoo is better as it cover more popular animal.I don't mean animals_expert01's zoo is not good,I would love the visit it absolutely, zoomaniac's zoo is more feasible and more profitable.I mean,there is more ordinary people in the world(or Australia) than zoochatters.Hix is right that you shouldn't said "seriously" though.
     
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  5. zoomaniac

    zoomaniac Well-Known Member

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    Okay, guys. If you are just upset by the word "seriously"... it wasn't meant that harsh, and it doesn't mean that there is anything "wrong". I absolutely respect animal_expert01 opinion/wish. It should just impress how astonished I was (and still am - Unfortunately, written messages do still not transport the "sound"). But: If I had to live in Australia (again: no offense;)), I would like to see more popular animals and I'm convinced most Australians (zoofreaks or not) share my opinion.
    And for @Hix especially: Cool down. I had the focus on species that average zoo vistors like (and miss). And average zoo vistors are the ones that keep a zoo running. (Beside that: Even you had to confess that most people would choose my list). Also - refer to your "bet" about most zoochatters - Giant River Otters and Walruss would be at least as interesting for AUSTRALIAN Zoo Chatters who ARE NOT ABLE to travel around the world as Indri and Fanaloka (while a trip to NZL and see Kea, Tuatara and Co. would be affordable for many, if not the majority).

    Beside that: How should I have known that animal_expert01 is a kid and why should this have an impact of his opinion and my reply?
     
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  6. Zoofan15

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    I like how people are referring to @animal_expert01's Zoo and @zoomaniac's Zoo like both gentleman have busily spent the last few years obtaining planning permission, constructing infrastructure and stocking their zoos with animals in time for the imminent grand opening. And how people may or not visit one of their zoos.

    I say we get charter a large bus, write ZooChat on it and fill it with ZooChatters (each one as opinionated as the last) and drive it to each zoo, giving it a fair and independent review, the final verdict of the people on the bus being the sole determinent of whether the zoo will be a success. And no, nobody will be swayed by free ice cream!
     
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  7. zoomaniac

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    @Zoofan15: lol:);)
    You're right. We should take that with a good portion of humor (first, my intention was to write "less seriously" but then....;))
     
  8. animal_expert01

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    If your goal is to restore blood-lines, this would be a better list:
    Jungle Fowl
    Razor-billed Currasow
    Andean Condor
    Green Peafowl
    Greater Rhea
    Chilean Flamingo
    Canada Goose
    Mute Swan
    Brazilian Tapir
    Malayan Tapir
    Guanaco
    Collared Peccary
    White-fronted Lemur
    Eurasian Brown Bear
    Leopard
    Ocelot
    African Forest Buffalo
    Sulawesi Black Macaque
    Puma
    Barton's Long-beaked Echidna
    Capybara
    Brazillian Agouti
    Common Coati
    Pacific Harbour Seal
    Spotted Hyena
    African Hunting Dog
    Fishing Cat

    All of this animals are in desperate need of some more genetic material or more individuals of breeding age.
     
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  9. zoomaniac

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    No objection, although I allow myself to see your list more as an extension, also because some of those you mentioned are actually on my list already.
    I'm amazed (is this word okay?) that there are still Flamingos and Peccaries in (an) Australian zoo(s). Thought they all died out.
     
  10. animal_expert01

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    There is only one ancient flamingo in Australia, a Chilean at Adelaide Zoo, last time I went to Melbourne Zoo quite a number of the peccaries were still alive, but that was several years ago. Flamingos cannot be imported, so when this last remaining individual dies out the species will become extinct in Australia. Collard peccaries however can be imported with a license.
     
  11. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

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    peccaries cannot be imported to Australia. And "rejuvenating bloodlines" isn't an apt description when you are talking about a single remaining specimen (e.g. the flamingo or curassow) or post-reproductive individuals (e.g. the rheas).

    @zoomaniac - check the stickied lists at the top of the Australia forum for the mammals and birds still in the country and the populations' general origins.
     
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    Now that is something I can get behind free Ice Cream what an excellent idea
     
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  14. TeaLovingDave

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    I think I'll trust Chlidonias on this one :p
     
  15. animal_expert01

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    Well it's either Childonias or the Australian Government, your choice...
     
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    A) You edited your post after I said that :p
    B) That link states that the information within has been superseded.
     
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    This has been pretty mammal-centred so far. As a birdkeeper, if I had to live in Australia, I would miss many bird species that are avicultural staples elsewhere, and are gone from Oz. My list would include Carolina Wood Duck, Crowned Crane (either species or both), Ruddy Shelduck, Himalayan Monal, Nicobar Pigeon, Pekin Robin, Red-breasted Goose, Shama, Eagle-owl (any species), Flamingo (any species). I would also look at refreshing the bloodlines of the few pheasant species still in Australian aviculture.
     
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  18. Zoofan15

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    I'd import (bearing in mind this is regardless of laws or costs):

    Mammals

    African Elephant
    Common Hippopotamus
    Pygmy Hippopotamus
    Indian One Horned Rhino
    Rothschild's Giraffe
    Okapi
    Bongo
    Collared Peccary
    Babirusa
    Malayan Tapir
    Polar Bear
    Malayan Sun Bear
    Giant Panda
    Timber Wolf
    Amur Leopard
    Persian Leopard
    Jaguar
    Temminck's Golden Cat
    Fishing Cat
    Caracal
    Sumatran Orangutan
    Common Chimpanzee
    Mandrill
    Chacma Baboon

    Birds

    Tawny Owl
    Snowy Owl
    Rhea
    Andean Condor
    Greater Flamingo

    Reptiles

    Komodo Dragon
    King Cobra
     
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    If the free ice cream bar is to prove a popular and competitive exhibit, perhaps the two zoos could advise what ice cream flavours they plan to import.
     
  20. marmolady

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    As an ape nerd, having bonobos in the region would be incredible. I'd like to see more chimpanzees imported, perhaps from the US, as they manage the species as a whole rather than species, the same as Australasia.

    My list is unfortunately rather boring and mammally, but laying aside practicalities, I'd love to see imports of any of the following:
    Okapi (housed alongside the bonobos in a big, green Congo exhibit)
    Aye-aye
    Drill
    Striped hyena
    Amur Leopard... or any other leopard to be honest
    Golden Snub-nosed Monkey
    Dusky/Spectacled Langur
    Clouded Leopard
    Brown bear (Syrian?)
    Giant Anteater
    Tamandua
    Woolly Monkey
    Red or Black Howler Monkey
    Andean/Spectacled Bear
    Tuatara
    Kakapo
    Kiwi
     
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