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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Benosaurus, 8 Feb 2019.

  1. Batto

    Batto Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    This statue was the offending object in a weird national debate last year after 22 years of standing there without anyone taking notice. A local leftist politician and some agitated citizens suddenly clamored that the statue was glorifying colonialism and racism and wanted it removed. The creator of the statue dryly remarked on local news (with the reporter having a hard time not to laugh) that the "man" was originally white, but now covered in a layer of dirt and patina. He offered to clean the statue, if the politician paid for it. Nevertheless, as a result of this and other public discussions regarding Hagenbeck's past, some anonymous activists threw paint bombs at the zoo's pay kiosks to demonstrate their protest against racism.

    Did I mention that I have a hard time understanding how stupid "woke" people can be?
     
  2. ChIkEn NuGrEt

    ChIkEn NuGrEt Well-Known Member

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    What the fake! I don’t even understand how a statue of a black man can be racist; is it because he’s with a giraffe? That’s stupid as heck and I kinda think it’s funny how their reaction to a twenty two year old statue is assaulting the employees.
     
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  3. Batto

    Batto Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    According to the woke claimants, the combination "African black man on African animal" + "Location to a zoo that profited from colonialism" is racist. Somehow. Don't ask me - I don't get it either. Apparently, you need to wear some very thick ideological goggles to perceive things that way.
    The kiosks were bombed at night, so no zoo employee was directly attacked.
     
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  4. ChIkEn NuGrEt

    ChIkEn NuGrEt Well-Known Member

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    Oh okay but still why would the zoo be responsible for this; it doesn’t seem like they really did anything. I really hate when people get offended for other people; like when people call me; a Mexican racist for wearing a sombrero.
     
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    Batto Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Because the statue is located near the entrance of a zoo that used to show ethnological exhibitions in the 19th and early 20th century. Which in the mind of these claimants underlines its racism.
    As for the sombrero: that's "Cultural Appropriation" and another form of racism, according to woke activists. ^^
     
  6. ChIkEn NuGrEt

    ChIkEn NuGrEt Well-Known Member

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    Dang it I just noticed that the tone is a bit different because I forgot to put a comma after Mexican. I am Mexican American, and I don’t care if my white, black, or Asian friends wear sombreros I don’t care if ANYONE does.
     
  7. ChIkEn NuGrEt

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    Seriously nearly one hundred freaking years ago, give me a break it reminds me of when people asked the Bronx zoo to apologize for their ethnological exhibitions from over one hundred years ago. I think it would be interesting to have an museum exhibit on humans and how their skin color and other things like long arms and stuff are specially adapted for different things. So more like a exhibit on genetics and adaptation than on race. Kind of like this Modern Human Diversity - Skin Color.
     
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    Does anyone have a picture of Seaworld Turtle Trek's land portion? I remember that they had a leatherback model in one of the exhibits that was realistic enough that I convinced myself that it was real. Then I asked a staff member and turns out it's fake.
     
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    The model California Leaf Bats at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum were so good I thought they were alive until I read this sign.
     
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    I know this isn't from the ZC gallery but I still wanted to share this and bring up discussion about the Saitama Children's zoo and the Asahiyama zoo.



    What is it supposed to be? A canyon/cliff
    Where is it (what zoo/ collection)? Saitama Children's Zoo
    Which enclosure (if applicable)? Manul cats
    What year was the photo taken? Footage is from 2021
    My score out of 5. Not bad.



    What is it supposed to be? An acacia tree
    Where is it (what zoo/ collection)? Asahiyama zoo
    Which enclosure (if applicable)? Giraffes
    What year was the photo taken? 2020
    Your score out of 5. 3/5 While I do like unnatural and outrageous things I feel that this might be a little too concerning. And I recall hearing about accidents caused by this "tree"
     
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    I disagree with most others assessment. For my eye, this is definitely mock-rock. Well done, but fake. Among other things it appears to blend rather fluidly with the fake embankment to the left-hand side. And its surface texture looks like sculpted concrete with various dyes added to me.

    I will agree however that it looks nothing at all like a rhinoceros.
     
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    What is it: Waterfall and Rock wall
    Where: National Zoological gardens on South Africa
    Species: Kodiak Bear
    Score: 4/5
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    All Credit goes to @Kudu21 for the amazing image!
     
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    This reminds me of a Pallas's cat enclosure in Zurich, which had so good fake rocks that it was shown in many photos. Including one at HMW. This exhibit now holds Swinhoe's striped squirrels and Derby's parakeets.
     
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    What is it: Three Elephant statues
    Where: Ragunan Zoo, Jakarta, Indonesia
    Which enclosure: Pelican exhibit
    Score: 3/5
     

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    What is it: mountain
    Where: Great Vancouver Zoo, Canada
    Which enclosure: Aoudad
    Score: 1/5
     
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    A mountain! I mean I can see it but the odd squares on top are a weird design choice.
     
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    Nice block of cement.
     
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    I would not make a sheet like the others because this come from an external source and not from Zoochat Gallery, but I just found now this incredibly well done fake Madagascar pink moth bugs (Phromnia rosea), a little known species, as lifesized replicas on a fake Ficus branch at Bronx zoo, photographed in 2008:

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    I wonder if any member of Zoochat that visited Bronx in these years have the same scenery photographed, and uploaded to gallery? In this case it could be made a sheet like the others... I just needed to share it because I'm impressed by the quality (since I've commented in this photo 12 years ago to just now, I tought these were real alive ones!)
     
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    Yipe! I'd give it 0.0000000001/5
     
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    What: Fake temple ruins
    Where: Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
    Exhibit: The RainForest
    Year: 1992
    Score: 4.5/5