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Which EDGE mammal interests you more: The Sumatran orangutang or the red ruffed lemur ? (poll)

Discussion in 'Zoo Cafe' started by Onychorhynchus coronatus, 9 Jan 2021.

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Which EDGE mammal interests you more: The Sumatran orangutang or the red ruffed lemur ?

Poll closed 23 Jan 2021.
  1. Sumatran orangutang

    11 vote(s)
    68.8%
  2. Red ruffed lemur

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%
  1. Onychorhynchus coronatus

    Onychorhynchus coronatus Well-Known Member

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    Second poll of 2021 in a series for zoochatters to vote for one of two EDGE mammal species. This time it is primates and a case of little vs large.

    Both species are primates (one great ape and the a prosimian) have characteristic red fur, are frequently kept by zoos and are classed as " Critically Endangered" by the IUCN: the Sumatran orangutang and the red ruffed lemur.

    I don't think either of these do too badly in terms of charisma or appeal in terms of the general public but it will be interesting to see how this one works out with zoochatters.

    Which of these mammal species interests you most / will you vote for ?

    Please also feel free to write comments regarding why you made the choice and why the species you have voted for interests you more.

    Thanks !

    Look forward to seeing the results!
     
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  2. Zorro

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    To my mind there are so few of the larger ape species compared to a lot more of the smaller primates.
     
  3. Onychorhynchus coronatus

    Onychorhynchus coronatus Well-Known Member

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    Damn it...:mad:

    I forgot to enable the "see who voted" function. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Onychorhynchus coronatus

    Onychorhynchus coronatus Well-Known Member

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    Interesting point @Zorro ! Thank you for your comment !

    Yes, true , there are indeed.

    However, thanks to advances in genetic we are now finding out that there are far more great ape species than were previously thought.

    For example, only very recently there was the news that the Tapanuli orangutang was a newly described species.

    It wouldn't suprise me at all if we see further gorilla or orangutang species or subspecies described.
     
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    As a rule far fewer of the larger apes, but they can go on splitting hairs for years to come when looking at the DNA :D
     
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    True, but with regards to the "new" orangutang species it may have some relevance / pertinence to current efforts to conserve it (hopefully and fingers crossed).

    Historical data point to ‘imminent extinction’ of Tapanuli orangutan
     
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    I seem to remember one small Lemur species a few years ago that was split into 3 species but to the human eye all looked the same :)
     
  8. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    That sounds very much like the mouse lemur.

    It is estimated now that there are more than 20 of them and new species are being discovered through genetic analysis fairly regularly.
     
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    I believe the red ruff has 2 sub species? There was an eep breeding hault while the genetics were investigated a few years ago!
     
  10. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    Hmmm, interesting, let me check this out.
     
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    Something to do with the white fur at the base of the tail I think. This may of been the only visual difference?
     
  12. CheeseChameleon1945

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    Sorry, I can't vote on this one, I really just have No idea Which one I like more.
    I like Lemurs Better than Apes In general, But I think Sumatran orangutans should be more prioritized as a whole as there habitat is Just Devastated right now.
     
  13. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    Are you sure this was with the red ruffed lemur and not the black and white ruffed lemur ?

    Because the black and white lemur does have three subspecies including the belted ruffed lemur.
     
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    Would appreciate if you could but if not then thats fine.

    Regarding deforestation I believe the red ruffed lemur (which I voted for) is in as dire straits as the orangutang and perhaps even more so given that it is frequently hunted for the bushmeat trade.
     
  15. Sausagefingers

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    Yea definitely the red ruff, this was a while after the 1st belted ruff pair arrived in the UK. Coupe be a case of miss information but I'm sure this was discussed.
     
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    Yeah these Kind of Questions are just difficult For me, Sorry...
    They Both have large amounts of Deforestation threatening them, So it's also a hard question for both of them.
     
  17. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    Thank you for your comment @Sausagefingers, not currently having much luck in finding any further information out on that investigation.

    It appears (at least for the moment) that no subspecies of the red ruffed lemur have been recognized.
     
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  18. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    Ok, yes, I understand.

    So try to vote based on which one you prefer which is also a valid criteria in this poll.

    Do you prefer the orangutang or the lemur ?
     
  19. CheeseChameleon1945

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    I like them Both, But I'll vote for one If you Insist.
     
  20. Onychorhynchus coronatus

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    Much appreciated !