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  1. Jambo

    Jambo Well-Known Member

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    Part 3:

    African Safari

    Reticulated Giraffe- 0.3
    Plains Zebra- 2.2
    Hamadryads Baboon- 2.8
    African Lion- 1.3
    Meerkat- 6.7
    Flamingo- 2.5
    Leopard tortoise- 2.4

    South American tropics
    Spider Monkey- 2.5
    Capuchin- 3.0
    Cotton top tamiran- 1.1
    Brazilian tapir- 0.1
    Peccaries- 2.3
    Maned Wolf- 1.1
    Tasmanian devil- 0.1
    Coati- 2.0
    Aldabra Tortoise- 2.1
     
  2. Jambo

    Jambo Well-Known Member

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    Part 4:

    Reptile house

    Black Headed snake- 1.1
    Thorny Devil- 2.1
    Star Tortoise- 2.6
    Blue Tongue Lizard- 3.0
    Figian crested Iguana- 2.5
    Eastern bearded dragon- 2.2
    Growling Grass frog- 6.1
    Gugetha skink- 7.7
    Philippines crocodile-2.0
    Spotted tree frog- 2.1

    New Zealand Forests
    Kakapo- 1.0
    Tuatara- 1.1
    Kiwi- 0.2

    In the future the zoo plans to expand it’s ‘New Zealand Forests’ area whilst also expanding it’s Reptile house (by importing more species) and same with the African Safari.

    PS. Sorry for having to make it into four parts as my list is so long I can’t seem to put it all in one post. ;):p
     
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  3. Hipporex

    Hipporex Well-Known Member

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    A.R.C. Zoological Park Species List (not including rescues)

    Africa

    Giraffic Park (home to African savanna animals)


    Common hippopotamus 1.2

    African bush elephant 0.4

    African bush elephant 1.0

    Eastern black rhino 1.0

    Eastern black rhino 0.1

    Common ostrich 2.2
    Grevy's zebra 1.5
    Masai giraffe 3.4
    Southern white rhino 0.3

    Common warthog 1.2

    African leopard 0.1

    Southeast African cheetah 2.0

    Common dwarf mongoose 2.6

    Aardvark 0.1

    Transvaal lion 1.3

    Gorilla Forest (home to African rainforest animals)

    Red river hog 1.2
    Western lowland gorilla 2.5

    Okapi 1.1
    Yellow-backed duiker 1.1

    Western chimpanzee 4.4

    Pygmy hippo 1.1
    Wolf's guenon 1.3

    Asia

    Elephant Lands (home to Indian animals)


    Indian elephant 0.5

    Indian elephant 1.0

    Gharial 5.5

    Bengal tiger 0.1

    Asiatic lion 1.2

    Indian rhinoceros 0.2

    Sloth bear 1.0

    Temple of the Tiger (home to Southeast Asian animals)

    Malayan tiger 0.1

    Malayan tiger 1.0

    Sumatran tiger 1.0

    Sumatran tiger 0.1

    Malayan tapir 1.1

    Philippine eagle 1.1

    Sumatran orangutan 1.4
    Siamangs 2.2

    Borean sun bear 0.2

    North Sulawesi babirusa 1.2

    Visayan warty pig 1.2

    Komodo dragon 0.1
     
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  4. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    1. How do you compete with multiple other zoos? What stands out?

    2. If you had an exhibit with multiple animals from one family, how would you keep them from inbreeding?

    3. How do you plan to get the Sloth Bears to breed, despite rare successes around the world?
     
  5. lowland anoa

    lowland anoa Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I’ll give it a shot

    Our Scotland:
    Red fox 3:6
    Scottish wildcat: 2:7
    Red Deer 10:30
    Capercaillie 1:4
    Common Raven: 2:4
    Osprey: 1:1
    Common Adder: 2:2
    Grass Snake: 2:2
    Grey Seal: 2:8

    Endangered Asia!
    Snow Leopard 3:3
    Malayan Tapir 3:6
    Philippines Tarsier: 2:2
    Sumatran Elephant: 1:5
    Fishing cat 2:4
    Red-Headed Vulture 1:2
    Amur Leopard 1:1
    Amur Tiger 1:1
    Lar Gibbon: 3:5
    Sumatran Tiger 1:1
    Russian Sturgeon 4:4
    Chinese Salamander 2:2
    Javan Slow Loris 3:3
    Malayan Sun Bear 2:2
    Sloth Bear 1:1
    Javan Green Magpie 4:8
    Chinese alligator 2:2
    Gharial 1:1
    Philippine Eagle 1:1
    Blue-crowned laughingthrush 2:2
    Sulawesi macaque 3:6
    Mindoro Bleedingheart 2:2
    Bali Myna 15:15
    Philippine Crocodile 2:2
    Vietnamese Pond Turtle 3:3
    Komodo Dragon 1:1
    Burmese Star Tortoise 2:2
    Green Sea Turtle 4:4
    Siamese Crocodile.

    Hope that’s not too much as there’s still more to come
     
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  6. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    Tropical Rainforest - 13 acres

    3.6 Capybara
    3.3 Arapaima
    2.2 Silver Arowana
    0.0.500+ Feeder Guppies
    2.2 Giant Anteater
    6.8 Golden Lion Tamarin
    3.4 Red Howler Monkey
    6.7 Cotton-Top Tamarin
    1.2 Bald Uakari
    2.6 Black-Handed Spider Monkey
    2.6 Southern Muriqui
    1.1 Brazilian Tapir
    0.1 Three-Toed Sloth
    2.3 Golden-Bellied Capuchin
    2.4 Common Squirrel Monkey
    1.1 Margay
    1.1 Brazilian Ocelot
    1.1 Jaguarundi
    2.2 Jaguar
    1.3 Small Red Brocket
    1.1 Scarlet Macaw
    1.1 Hyacinth Macaw
    1.1 Military Macaw
    2.3 Golden Conure
    1.2 Scarlet Ibis
    3.3 Yellow-Rumped Cacique
    1.0 Sunbittern
    3.3 Hoatzin
    1.1 Harpy Eagle
    1.0 Green Anaconda
    1.0 Green Iguana
    1.1 Eyelash Viper
    1.0 Plumed Basilisk
    1.1 Orinoco Crocodile
    1.1 Black Caiman
    1.2 Glass Frog
    1.1 Amazon Milk Frog
    2.3 Red-Eyed Tree Frog
    5.5 Golden Mantella
    6.6 Panamanian Golden Frog
    1.0 Chilean Rose Tarantula
    0.0.20 Amazonian Cockroach
    0.0.3 Golden Orb Weaver
    0.0.45 Blue Morpho Butterfly
    2.2 Sumatran Tiger
    3.6 Molluccan Cockatoo
    2.4 Nicobar Pigeon
    3.3 Javan Gibbon
    1.3 Mueller's Gibbon
    2.4 Red-Tailed Black Cockatoo
    1.3 Sumatran Orangutan
    2.4 Malayan Tapir
    1.1 Malayan Sun Bear
    1.1 Binturong
    1.3 Siamese Crocodile

    African Savanna - 10 acres

    1.1 Shoebill
    1.4 Blue Wildebeest
    2.3 Cheetah
    2.2 Greater Kudu
    2.4 Maneless Zebra
    1.2 Ostrich
    2.6 Bontebok
    1.3 Reticulated Giraffe
    1.4 African Painted Dog
    1.2 Spotted Hyena
    1.1 Black Rhino
    1.3 African Lion
    5.10 Greater Flamingo

    Children's Zoo - 3 acres

    2.3 Radiated Tortoise
    3.4 Nigerian Dwarf Goat
    1.2 Dexter Cattle
    2.0 Huyacaya Alpaca
    3.4 Mara
    3.0 Java Green Peafowl
    2.4 Northern Tree Shrew
    2.0 Kunekune Pig
    2.4 Vancouver Island Marmot
    1.2 Variegrated Squirrel
     
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  7. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    Tasmanian Devil...you would think an Aussie would know better ;)
    Aldabras are from the Indian Ocean.

    Would you like to trade 0.1 Leopard Tortoise for one of my female Radiated Tortoises?
     
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  8. Mbwamwitu

    Mbwamwitu Well-Known Member

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    Proposal from Grand Vijayanagara Zoological Park (GVZP), better known as Hampi Zoo:

    1. You must say where the zoo is located and the environment around it.


    Hampi Zoo is located just outside Hampi, a major historical tourist destination and UNESCO World Heritage Site in south-central India. The town of Hampi contains perfectly preserved ruins of the Vijayanagara Empire, which have been selected by the Government of India as one of 10 locations nationwide to receive major investment into tourism facilities. Our zoo is a beneficiary of that project, as a world-class biological facility focusing on Indian natural history was deemed a major potential attraction in the revamped Hampi complex.

    In terms of physical environment, our land is a mix of degraded tropical grassland, former farmland, and thorn scrub. One small seasonal stream flows through our land, eventually joining a tributary of the Tungabhadra River.

    2. You must state the size, and a budget to get your zoo to an area where you can start up.

    Hampi Zoo is 250 acres large, as land is plentiful in the area. Our starting budget is of $75m, combining both the initial investment by the Indian federal government with three other major funding sources: 1) The Karnataka State Govt., who seek to build a second great zoo in the state to rival Mysore Zoo; 2) the Pangolin Consortium, a US-based group of zoos seeking to increase captive pangolin populations; and 3) a consortium of private investors from the Indian elite who are interested in the zoo's use of community-focused messaging to preserve rare and sacred species.

    3. Give a list of 8 animals you know for sure will be on display.

    (i) Cheetah
    (ii) Indian pangolin
    (iiii) Striped hyena
    (iv) Great Indian bustard
    (v) Red-headed vulture
    (vi) Indian star tortoise
    (vii) Blackbuck
    (viii) Nilgai

    4. You will briefly describe your exhibits for the animals above.

    Cheetahs - the star attraction for the visiting public, and being investigated for reintroduction potential into the wild - inhabit a large complex of preserved grassland yards with a walking trail around and above, as well as plans for a jeep-based safari in the future. The exhibit area is branded as Return of the Cheetah, and features extensive information on the historical cheetah population in the Indian grasslands during the heyday of Vijayanagara, and includes immersive signage on extinction and conservation.

    Godavan Lek features a smaller set of yards for the bustards, with management expertise and design assistance from the Smithsonian National Zoo's kori bustard program. Across from the leks is the stream, over which is a bridge that leads to a pavilion from which guests can look out onto the Deccan Plain, a mixed species exhibit that houses our blackbuck and nilgai herds.

    Our pair of hyenas are housed in a cluster of three rotating rock-and-scrub exhibits with ample enrichment and viewing opportunities. Eventually, we would like to bring in sloth bears, jackals and other species to build more such yards with a robust predator rotation.

    Kurma's Refuge is our complex for star tortoises, most of which are rescues from the illegal trade. We have a robust population of star tortoises coming in as well as being released into the wild, but are also interested in helping build the foreign ex-situ population through exchanges and trades within your organization. The exhibit features small yards, with a trail going through them, strewn with Vijayanagara-style statuettes telling the story of Kurma, the great tortoise that saved the gods and world in Hindu mythology.

    Jatayu Canyon is the most ambitious exhibit in the park - it features a large, multi-species space for various endangered vulture species including the red-headed Pondicherry vultures above. It features a large gorge with a suspension bridge running through, by which guests can come up close and personal with India's dying vultures. However, individual aviaries are provided for the different species, and zoo management rotates these into the large walkthrough canyon based on day-to-day observations and recommendations. Guests can view the different species in their individual aviaries along a trail, or experience feeding time in the canyon, when carcasses are placed in "vulture restaurant" style for the birds to gorge on.

    Finally, the Pangolin Conservation Center is an indoor-outdoor mixed exhibit focused 100% on breeding success with Indian pangolins, following the model of Nandankanan Zoo. Visitors can access some areas, but not others, as much of this center is off-exhibit. Two of the pangolins, however, can be viewed by visitors in a portion of the exhibit designed as a nocturnal house, alongside other species like grey slender loris and Indian flying fox.

    5. Give one reason for your zoo to be accepted, along with a conservation program for your zoo with one of your eight species.

    Hampi Zoo is working on improving ex-situ populations and management practices for several rare and endangered Indian species, which could become available to other facilities within the organization due to the Indian government's increased openness to ex situ conservation. We're also working on building an African-themed area of our park to go with the cheetah narrative and boost attendance from Indian visitors, due to our savannah environment and large area in which to build a world-class African safari. Membership in this organization will allow us to work on both these goals - increasing the profile of Indian wildlife in foreign facilities, while improving our own meager African collection.

    Most of the eight species listed are involved in conservation programs, but our flagship program deals with star tortoise trafficking reduction. Hampi Zoo scientists and rehabilitators work with the Karnataka state government to track and apprehend star tortoise shipments, and re-home or re-wild confiscated tortoises. In addition, we work with local communities around Hampi to reduce human-wildlife conflict with leopards, hyenas and wolves.
     
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  9. Dylan

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    Turaco aviaries:
    1 : 1.0.0 Violet turaco
    2 : 1.1.0 Red-crested turaco
    2 : 1.1.0 Livingstone's turaco

    Callitrichidae complex:
    2 : 1.1.0 Golden lion tamarin
    2 : 1.1.0 Emperor tamarin (no ssp)

    Paddock:
    2 : 1.1.0 Emu
    5 : 2.3.0 Tasmanian red-necked wallaby

    Pond:
    2 : 2.0.0 Cinnamon call duck
    4 : 2.2.0 Mandarin duck
    5 : 3.2.0 Marbled teal (1.0 surplus)
    3 : 1.2.0 Laysan teal

    Off-show:
    4 : 1.3.0 Bearded Belgian bantam chicken
    2 : 1.1.0 Japanese long-tailed chicken
    1 : 0.0.1 African rock python

    Wanted species :
    Non-breeding flamingo
    Most types of birds
    Callitrichidae
    Australian mammals
     
  10. CDavies98

    CDavies98 Well-Known Member

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    1. How do you compete with multiple other zoos? What stands out?

    Most of the zoos in the area are very specialised so we already have an edge over them in terms of competition from local visitors. We will also stand out on a global field because of the size of our zoo and the quality and size of the enclosures this allows us to build for our animals. We will specialise in immersive experiences and exhibits and aim to have some species that are rare in UK zoos or not currently held, such as manatees, polar bears and eventually giant panda according to masterplan. We will also take a different approach to education, by offering one-on-one guided tours to visitors completely free of charge, to really focus on our education policies. We will have several classrooms on site which we will use in conjunction with universities and schools in the area to educate future generations about conservation.

    2. If you had an exhibit with multiple animals from one family, how would you keep them from inbreeding?
    Inbreeding will be prevented by careful monitoring of related animals, via human observation and CCTV recordings of behaviour and swift action if mating behaviours are shown. We will endeavour to move offspring or siblings on when they reach sexual maturity to both avoid inbreeding and further the breeding programmes of the species, but if this is not immediately possible then the individuals will be separated in the habitat they are in until such a time when they can be moved. Contraceptive implants or castrations may be used to prevent inbreeding but only as a last resort.

    3. How do you plan to get the Sloth Bears to breed, despite rare successes around the world?

    Breeding our sloth bears will not be priority in the early years of the zoo, as we get started building the attraction we want to become, but we will house bears that are a good match genetically according to the studbook and will provide them with safe environments and off-show areas to encourage natural mating behaviours. If no mating occurs, we may consider changing or transferring individuals to encourage mating or attempt IVF but this may not be until some time in the future.
     
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  11. ZooBinh

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    Nice! Welcome to the association!
     
  12. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    1. Do you believe in keeping rare animals on display? Shall they get stressed? Give one pro/con.

    2. If a group of visitors approached you asking for your opinion on animal rights groups, how would you respond with a two-sided view?

    3. With many major attractions around, how do you know if visitors will want to visit your zoo? How would you attract them, then?
     
  13. Dylan

    Dylan Well-Known Member

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    I don't know quite how to build things in my zoo but I'll give it a try.

    Construction name : The Orchards
    Estimated cost: £7,000
    Description:
    Five enclosures measuring 7mx7m each enclosed by high wooden fences designed for rare domestic breeds. The substrate is grass which provides grazing and dust baths are provided. Each enclosure has a gravel path running through it with double gates between enclosures so people can walk through the enclosure to get a closer view of the animals. The birds all have access to indoor shed for perching at night as well as laying during the breeding season. People will be able to feed the birds wheat sold by a dispenser that will be in the currently unbuilt sensory garden. The orchards are named so because they do have fruit trees and berry bushes like apple, pear, plum, raspberry, strawberry and gooseberry which creates a typical farm atmosphere as well as providing food for the animals.
    Planned species:
    One chicken breed per orchard + 2 free-roaming at each end.
    One duck breed per orchard
    Three goose breeds
    Two turkey breeds
    Conservation and education:
    Rare breeds are an important part of heritage in many places so by housing the breeds, we are giving people a better understanding of world cultures. None of the breeds are from endangered species even if they are rare themselves so these contribute little to the conservation of endangered species. The orchards themselves are an important source of food for animals in the zoo so make the zoo more self sufficient and reduce the carbon emissions of the zoo.

    @ZooBinh I'm interested in 0.5 Greater flamingo. Could you look at my species list and see if there is anything you care for? I know the list is small so you can take this as an IOU
     
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  14. lowland anoa

    lowland anoa Well-Known Member

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    @Dylan Fife Zoo has announced that they are willing to take your lone violet turaco for a exchange of one of our African species (will post later)
     
  15. lowland anoa

    lowland anoa Well-Known Member

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    African Plains:
    3:3 Masai Ostrich
    5:5 Helmeted Guineafowl
    3:2 Grevy's Zebra
    1:4 African Wild Dog
    2:5 Rothschild Giraffe
    1:4 Lesser Kudu
    1:2 Common Eland
    1:3 Sable
    2:2 Nyala
    1:5 Gemsbok
    1:1 Topi
    1:2 Roan
    2:4 Waterbuck
    0.1 Hartebeest
    5:10 African Spoonbill
    1:2 Shoebill

    However, the zoo is working on new enclosures and are still working on Americas which will cost £25 million and the African Rainforest which is £100 million, so the zoo starts a fundraiser. What is the scenario :p
     
  16. Dylan

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    Hi @lowland anoa

    I do not see anything that is of interest to my zoo's masterplan on your African species list so I will decline the offer for now.
     
  17. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    @Dylan I will not take in anything from your zoo, but I will gift your zoo the 0.5 Greater Flamingo.
     
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  18. lowland anoa

    lowland anoa Well-Known Member

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    The Zoo agrees that we should wait until the African Rainforest exhibit opens.
     
  19. ZooBinh

    ZooBinh Well-Known Member

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    Tropical Rainforest Design

    Size: 13 acres (not fully used)
    Cost: 75 million USD


    Capybara Exhibit - 17,400sqft - 5 million USD
    Fish Pond w/ Underwater Viewing - 200sqft - 100 thousand USD
    Giant Anteater Exhibit - 17,500sqft - 4.5 million USD
    Cotton-Top + Golden Lion Tamarin Exhibit - 6,500sqft - 100 thousand USD
    6 rotating exhibits for the rest of the South American primate species - 1/2 acre - 7 million USD
    Tropical Dome for all South American birds (except Hoatzin and Harpy Eagle), with Reptile House for all South American herps and inverts (excluding morpho butteflies) - 2 acres - 15 million USD
    Butterfly House - 6,000 sqft - 1 million USD

    Harpy Eagle Aviary - 3,000sqft - 700 thousand USD
    Hoatzin Aviary - 3,000 sqft - 800 thousand USD
    Brazilian Tapir/ Brocket Exhibit - 1 acre - 2 million USD
    Three Small Cat Exhibits (South American) - 500sqft each (1,500 total) - 500 thousand USD
    Jaguar Exhibit - 1 acre - 8 million USD
    6 rotating exhibits for large Asian animals - 4 acres - 9 million USD
    2 exhibits for Binturong and Asian birds - 2,000sqft - 400 thousand USD
    Siamese Crocodile Exhibit - 1/2 acre - 1 million USD
    Keeper and Public Spaces - 2 acres - 4 million USD

    Space Left: 1.5 acres
    Money Left: 15.3 million USD

     
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  20. Hipporex

    Hipporex Well-Known Member

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    A.R.C. recently received a former pet female tiger (Panthera tigris) (we don't know the subspecies; likely a hybrid of multiple) but our rescues section is full. We'd like re-home her at another facility (with no charge to said facility) but said facility must be able to provide to the animal and the shorter the travel distance the better.