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  1. pipaluk

    pipaluk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    9th January at Linton

    30. Hartmanns Mountain Zebra
    31. Brazilian Tapir
     
  2. bongorob

    bongorob Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    9th January update

    19) Vicuna (Vicugna vicugna) Twycross Zoo
    20) Michie's tufted deer (Elaphodus cephalophus michianus) Twycross Zoo
    21) Reticulated giraffe (Giraffa reticulata) Twycross Zoo
    22) Grant's zebra (Equus quagga boehmi) Twycross Zoo
    23) Common nyala (Nyala angasii) Twycross Zoo
    24) Kirk's dik-dik (Madoqua kirkii) Twycross zoo
     
  3. Fireplume

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    I'm sorry but... why exactly? Wouldn't be using IUCN be considerably better and actually realistic? From what I can understand here, basically every single subspecies (or just about) has been elevated to full species status for some reason?
     
  4. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    From my understanding a lot of these splits have been in the works for some time (certainly the giraffe one has been) and most are likely to turn out valid. While there are certainly a few that may turn out to be invalid, enough will be for me to feel comfortable going with these splits and that they're more accurate for most species than what the IUCN currently lists.

    Remember, the IUCN still doesn't recognize the African Forest Elephant as its own species so they aren't always on top of the latest taxonomic changes.

    The over-lumping of species, especially similar-looking mammals, is nothing new and I won't be surprised if one or two more ungulates (such as the White-Tailed Deer as noted in the link) will turn out to represent multiple species as well.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  5. Fireplume

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    Well, while I'll still be joining the challenge there's certainly such thing as over splitting as well... I mean 450 so-called species? Yeah no, there's no way.
     
  6. Nasua

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    Let's join...

    1) Grant's zebra - Karlsruhe Zoo
    2) Hippopotamus - Karlsruhe Zoo
    3) Reticulated giraffe - Karlsruhe Zoo
    4) Common eland - Karlsruhe Zoo
    5) Scimitar-horned oryx - Karlsruhe Zoo
    6) Persian gazelle - Karlsruhe Zoo

    Not that much so far. :D
     
  7. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I now wish I had visited SDWAP this year rather than the end of last.
    From Nautral Bridge Wildlife Ranch:
    1. Nile lechwe
    2. Aoudad/Barbary sheep
    3. Impala
    4. Sable Antelope
    5. Barasingha
    6. Fallow deer
    7. Axis deer
    8. Lesser kudu
    9. American Bison
    10. Springbok
    11. Gemsbok
    12. Ellipsen waterbuck
    13. Wildebeest (whichever the common one is, I won't see the other this year.)
    14. Dama gazelle
    15. Common bongo
    16. Blesbok
    17. Grants gazelle
    18. Arabian oryx
    19. Common eland
    20. Scimitar horned oryx
    21. Plains zebra
    22. Southern white rhinoceros
    23. Blackbuck
    24. Addax
    25. Thomson's gazelle
    I think that's all for today. If I did something wrong, don't be afraid to tell me.

    Whoops one more. I also visited Animal World and Snake Farm Zoo today and have this one:
    26. Common warthog
     
  8. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    There are no pure Reticulated Giraffes in the United States.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  9. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    So for giraffes, in the US, are we only counting Masai?
     
  10. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Essentially, yes.

    There might be one or two pure Reticulated and Baringo Giraffes scattered at some zoos (I think San Diego might have pure animals) but I'm not sure where they are. However, if someone sees a proven pure animal it counts.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  11. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Ok. At the SDZSF, there are adult retics and Rothschild, but all babies being born are hybrid sadly.
     
  12. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Just because they're labelled as Reticulated and Rothschild doesn't mean they're pure. I'm not sure how many pure ones they might have but I doubt they all are.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  13. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Some of their roths are, but not all. I have no clue how many retics there are, but only 1.0 were mentioned. The hybrids are being referred to as "giraffe".
     
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    I've read the studbook for American giraffes. It's a huge cluster. The genetics bore out that they couldn't find any pure retics or roths.
     
  15. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Houston Zoo 1/23/16
    27. Red river hog
    28. Masai giraffe
    29. Babirusa
    30. Eastern giant eland
    31. Lowland Nyala
    32. White tailed deer
    33. Southern gerenuk
    34. Yellow backed duiker
    35. Baird's tapir
    36. Okapi
     
  16. Macaw16

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    All from Flamingo Land (24/1/2016):

    1. Visayan Warty Pig Sus cebifrons
    2. Red River Hog Potamochoerus porcus
    3. Scimitar-horned Oryx Oryx dammah
    4. Kafue Flats Lechwe Kobus kafuensis
    5. Black Rhinoceros Diceros bicornis
    6. Brazilian Tapir Tapirus terrestris
    7. Vicuna Vicugna vicugna
    8. Southern White Rhinoceros Ceratotherium simum
    9. Rothschild Giraffe Giraffa camelopardalis
    10. Common Hippopotamus Hippopotamus amphibius
    11. Plains Zebra Equus quagga
     
  17. bongorob

    bongorob Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    1) Onager (Equus hemionuis onager) Chester Zoo
    2) Grévy's zebra (Equus grevyi) Chester Zoo
    3) Malayan tapir (Tapirus indicus) Chester Zoo
    4) South American tapir (Tapirus terrestris) Chester Zoo
    5) Eastern black rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis michaeli) Chester Zoo
    6) Indian rhinoceross (Rhinocers unicornis) Chester Zoo
    7) Rothschild's giraffe Giraffa camelopardalis rothschildi Chester Zoo
    8) Red river hog (Potamochoerus porcus) Chester Zoo
    9) northern babirusa (Babyrousa celebensis) Chester Zoo

    10) Philippines chevrotain (Tragulus nigripes) Chester Zoo
    11) Western sitatunga (Tragelaphus spekei gratus) Chester Zoo
    12) Eastern Bongo (Tragelaphus eyrucerus isaaci) Chester Zoo
    13) Lowland anoa (Bubalis depressicornis) Chester Zoo
    14) Congo buffalo (Syncerus caffer nanus) Chester Zoo
    15) Scimitar-horned oryx (Oryx dammah) Chester Zoo
    16) Okapi (Okapia johnstoni) Chester Zoo
    17) Natal red duiker (Cephalophus natalensis natalensis) Chester Zoo
    18) Chilean pudu (Pudu puda) Chester Zoo
    19) Vicuna (Vicugna vicugna) Twycross Zoo
    20) Michie's tufted deer (Elaphodus cephalophus michianus) Twycross Zoo
    21) Reticulated giraffe (Giraffa reticulata) Twycross Zoo
    22) Grant's zebra (Equus quagga boehmi) Twycross Zoo
    23) Common nyala (Nyala angasii) Twycross Zoo
    24) Kirk's dik-dik (Madoqua kirkii) Twycross Zoo

    update for 24th January

    25) Prince Alfred's deer (Rucervus alfredi) Chester Zoo
    26) Blackbuck (Antilope cervicapra) Chester Zoo
    27) Negros warty pig (Sus cebifrons negrinus) Chester Zoo
    28) Javan banteng (Bos javanicus javanicus) Chester Zoo
    29) Roan antelope (hippotragus equinus) Chester Zoo
     
  18. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Moody Gardens Rainforest 1/25/2016
    37. Southern Blue duiker
     
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  19. jbnbsn99

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    Per the Groves and Grubb rule, make that a Southern Blue Duiker.
     
  20. jayjds2

    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I just put what it was labeled as. How do you know which species it is? We're all of them in the US collected at the same place or something? If you don't know, that's ok. I'm just curious. :)
     
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