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ZooChat Cup Group C2: Denver vs Rotterdam

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by CGSwans, 25 Nov 2019.

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North America and Europe: Denver vs Rotterdam

Poll closed 28 Nov 2019.
  1. Denver 3-0 Rotterdam

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  2. Denver 2-1 Rotterdam

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  3. Rotterdam 2-1 Denver

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  4. Rotterdam 3-0 Denver

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  1. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    The topic is Europe and North America. Obviously this is the first set of matches in the group but I can’t shake the thought that, if Denver is going to make a run at qualification, this is the time to strike.
     
  2. Coelacanth18

    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    The most recent complete list for Denver we have is from 2016; I excluded any that I know have departed the collection.

    North American River Otter
    California Sea Lion
    Harbor Seal
    Grizzly Bear
    White-nosed Coati
    Dall Sheep
    Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep

    Cinereous Vulture
    Red-tailed Hawk
    Steller's Sea Eagle
    Bald Eagle
    Canada Goose
    Mallard Duck
    North American Wood Duck
    Marbled Teal
    Egyptian Vulture
    Ruddy Shelduck
    American White Pelican

    Prairie Rattlesnake
    Florida Kingsnake
    Copperhead
    Alabama Map Turtle
    Common Cooter
    Diamondback Terrapin
    Florida Red-bellied Turtle
    Mississippi Map Turtle
    Alligator Snapping Turtle
    Spotted Turtle
    Eastern Glass Lizard
    Everglades Rat Snake
    Ridge-nosed Rattlesnake
    Three-toed Box Turtle

    Barking Tree Frog
    Eastern Newt

    Blind Cave Fish (probably from Texas)
    Black Crappie
    Bowfin
    Dollar Sunfish
    Red Breast Sunfish
    Spotted Gar
    Rosefin Shiner
    Rosyside Dace
    Southern Redbelly Dace

    Giant Whip Scorpion
    Possibly tarantula, depending on species
     
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  3. TheGerenuk

    TheGerenuk Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    2-1 Rotterdam. Great collection in Rotterdam, but Denver does have a few interesting species.
     
  4. amur leopard

    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    To be fair to Denver, that is a good lineup. Would be interesting to see the conditions of living, but here are Rotterdam's species afaik.

    Bison
    Prairie dog
    Polar bear
    Arctic fox
    Snowy owl
    Northern raccoon
    Swift fox
    Rock squirrel
    California sea lion

    Puffin
    Common guillemot
    Black-legged kittiwake
    Greater roadrunner
    Burrowing owl
    Common eider

    Chuckwalla
    Gila monster
    Eastern king snake

    Colorado River toad

    And a few fish.

    So far based on the species lists, my vote goes to Denver.
     
  5. vogelcommando

    vogelcommando Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Knowing Rotterdam pretty well ( and Denver not ) my vote goes to Rotterdam. Their North American area is great ( esp. IMO the Polar bear enclosure ) and the Arctic fox enclosure and also Bass Rock ( sea birds ) and the Oceanium ( large tunnel-aquarium with Atlantic fish and sea-turtles ) and the Sea of Cortez area are realy great and alos on conservation they do a lot ( some of the last Fire salamanders of Dutch orgin are kept in the Conservation center ). Also the breeding of Gila monsters is noteworth.
    The breeding-colony of the Caspian pelicans and the big pond in the middle of the old zoo with lots of waterfowl and loads of sliders is always worth to watch for a while.
    Because I don't know the Denver Zoo well but because the species-list is not bad I've made it a 2-1 score for Rotterdam.
     
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  6. Coelacanth18

    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    Here are some photos of Rotterdam:

    Polar Bear (foreground) and Bison (background)
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    Raccoons (photo showing that their exhibit has water for them to use)
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    Swift Fox
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    Sea Lion
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    Atlantic Tunnel in Oceanium
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  7. Coelacanth18

    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    And now Denver. @Echobeast might be able to clarify if Harmony Hill is in its final form or still needs further planting and modeling before it's complete.

    Harmony Hill (Brown Bears)
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    Sea Lions and Seals
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    Dall Sheep
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    Bighorn Sheep
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  8. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    I gotta say, if those two lots of photos above were scrambled I wouldn't be able to say which photos were from which zoo. So looking at the species lists alone, I'm going 2-1 for Denver.
     
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  9. Echobeast

    Echobeast Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Harmony Hill is now planted and looks better than when it first opened. I will mention that it appears that dall sheep are no longer in the collection along with river otters and Stellar’s sea eagle with the closing of Bird World.