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ZooChat Cup Season 2 - North America

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by pachyderm pro, 28 Apr 2018.

  1. TheGerenuk

    TheGerenuk Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Well, all of this talk about aquariums makes me think about a competition for just aquariums.
     
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    And thinking the Yangtze was in South America. :p
     
  3. pachyderm pro

    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    The dates have been set, the competition begins in less than a week. The first three matches are as follows.

    5/21/18 - Minnesota vs Bronx

    5/22/18 - Oklahoma City vs Fort Worth

    5/23/18 - Fresno vs Disney

    The rest of the matches will be revealed the day before they begin.
     
  4. TZDugong

    TZDugong Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Three very interesting matchups.

    The one I'm most excited for is Bronx vs Minnesota, which is mainly due to the fact that I'm visiting Bronx the day the competition starts! I'll be sure to relay lots of information about that zoo.

    Oklahoma vs Fort Worth should be good, two interesting zoos. I wouldn't want to be matched up against Fort Worth if the category was Reptiles, however.

    Fresno vs Disney should be the least exciting matchup, but it might be interesting to see how a zoo I know nothing about (Fresno), matches up against a zoo I've visited multiple times.
     
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    jayjds2 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Interesting to see some heavy hitters right away. It makes for a fun competition.
    Oklahoma City is rather formidable in reptiles as well, particularly in turtles as they are the new reptile curator’s interest.
    What makes you say this? Fresno, though small, is making increases in leaps and bounds and seems to be all-around rather high quality for its size.
     
  6. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    In what categories?

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    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I’ll be keeping the categories secret until the day the match starts, just for suspense purposes.
     
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    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    The first round has begun! The first match has been posted and closes in four days, get your votes in before it too late. :)
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    You might want to link the matches here ;)

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  10. Coelacanth18

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    I have a couple of technical questions about the "Small Mammal" category. First, do large mammals that don't fit other categories, like kangaroos and giant anteaters, fit into that category or should they be discounted altogether? Second, do small primates additionally count in this category or should they only be considered when the matchup is Primates?
     
  11. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    This brings up one of my main issues with this challenge: the categories are extremely vague. Originally large carnivores were listed as being big cats, bears, and canines (all? It was never specified), but then pachy added pinnipeds to that as well as larger-sized small cats, with hyenas being added later :p

    ~Thylo
     
  12. Fallax

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    There is a reason the original ZooChat Cup changed the categories so why does this one use the old problematic categories?
     
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    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    As I mentioned, it's up to you to decide what dictates a small mammal. A giraffe of course is not, but cases such as a kangaroo, it can be considered a "small mammal" if you feel it is. Small primates only count if the category is primates in general.
     
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    Would it not be much easier and less complicated to use the categories from ZooChat Cup Season 1?
     
  15. Coelacanth18

    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member 5+ year member

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    Thank you for this clarification.

    I'm interpreting this as, any mammal that does not otherwise fall into the other mammal categories could be considered a "small mammal" depending on one's preference? Why not just call the category "Other Mammals" then? Because I think it's difficult to make a case for a red kangaroo being small...

    It makes sense for pinnipeds and hyenas to be included in that category, but a size or taxa cutoff for felines and canines seems like it would be useful.
     
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    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Small Mammals has been turned into miscellaneous mammals, large carnivores have been turned into carnivores. These will be used from here on out.
     
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    I kinda wanted to see Oakland in this but I think that’s just me.
     
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    pachyderm pro Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Wining 18 to 10, the Bronx zoo has won the second season of the zoochat cup over the San Diego zoo. Many thanks to everyone who participated, voted and added to discussion. Another season is in the works however, @ZooBinh will be hosting an international aquarium cup in the near future. Then later this year @CGSwans will take back his rightful spot as host with another European themed cup. Once more, thank you to all the participants and thank you to Mr. Swans for the original concept.