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  1. Kakapo

    Kakapo Well-Known Member

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    The "early amniotes" from which therapsids evolved were reptiles anyway. And Sulawesi is part of Australasia. But thanks for letting me know about the pouchless marsupials, I was unaware of them. (In "pouch" I also would include "slit", if that matters). Thanks also for giving me info about the age Thylacoleo lived, I really know very little about prehistoric lifeforms, but 2 million years is indeed fairly recent.
     
  2. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Thanks, Kakapo.
    The earliest amniotes were not reptiles. Reptiles only evolved from diapsids after synapsids had diverged from early amniotes..
    Sulawesi is not part of Australasia. Try to find any animal book including babirusas, crested macaques or Sulawesi giant civets as Australasian animals. Ƴou may be getting muddled up with Wallace's Line, rather than political geography.
     
  3. Tetzoo Quizzer

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    Mammals are less closely related to any living group of reptiles (or indeed birds) than all the reptile groups are to each other. In other words, Mammals are only descended from “reptiles” if we use the word as an equivalent to amniotes; restricting “reptiles” to the least inclusive group ancestral to all living forms leaves mammals as a separate group.
    As for Sulawesi; having had the pleasure of visiting it last year, I can confirm that it is more Asian in terms of Fauna than it is Australasian, and it can be regarded as Asian, more accurately Wallacean, but certainly not Australasian, whereas Halmahera, the next major island to the East, could be.
     
  4. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Sulawesi is in Indonesia, which is part of Asia. "Australasia" specifically excludes Asia.

    You can say that Sulawesi is within the Australasian biogeographic or faunal region, but that is not the same as saying it is in Australasia.
     
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  5. Tetzoo Quizzer

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    If you decide to count presence of non-opossum marsupials as defining Australasia, then you have to count the various Sulawesi macaques and tarsiers as Australasian primates!
     
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  6. Dassie rat

    Dassie rat Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Sorry, Clidonias, West Papua or Irian Jaya is part of Indonesia but it is also the western part of New Guinea, so it is in Australasia.
     
  7. Lota lota

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    Forest galante claiming there are two species of anaconda when there is actually four.
    Timesstamp at 3:56

     
  8. Fallax

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    I was actually only aware of the green and yellow... Didn't know there was more :p
     
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  9. TeaLovingDave

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    Indeed; the issue is that you are both replying to a forum member who has become notorious for refusing to accept any taxonomic classification, research or discoveries which are more recent in origin than the early 1950s, despite having been born several decades later :p so I suspect that you will get nowhere trying to correct him on this point!

    The third (De Schauensee's Anaconda) has been known for nearly a century IIRC, whilst the fourth (Bolivian) is a relatively-recent discovery, having been described in 2002 from a population which has been known to science for some time but was long mistaken for a natural hybrid of Green and Yellow Anaconda within the area where the two species overlap.
     
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  10. Lota lota

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    At a keeper talk about guinea pig at the children zoo at skansen the keeper continuously referred to wild guinea pigs.There are no Cavia porcellus naturally in the wild and neither has it ever been any.Domestic guinea pigs are likely descended from montane guinea pig.Some authorities recognize species like Cavia guianae and Cavia anolaimae as Cavia porcellus that have become feral but it's still kinda fuzzy.
     
  11. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Yes, funnily enough I am aware of what islands Indonesia encompasses. My point was that Sulawesi is not in Australasia and I phrased my post poorly.
     
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  12. Birdsage

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    Google search for “Australasian robin” (“extinct”)
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    Google search for “shark” (the description refers to the sharks in Sonic the Hedgehog and not to real sharks, shark speed and lifespan cannot be generalized)
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  13. Corangurilla

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    Algorithm’s gonna algorithm.:rolleyes:
     
  14. birdsandbats

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    That's hilarious.

    Shark
     
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    Macmillan Fully Illustrated Dictionary for Children

    “cold-blooded” (no such species as “bulltip shark”)
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    “extinct” (Alphadon is misspelled as “Aphadon”)
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    “hoof” (elephants and the Aardvark are not hoofed mammals)
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    “killer whale” (one of the illustrations is a Dall's Porpoise)
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    “peacock” (peacocks are male peafowl, peahens are female peafowl)
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    “shark” (“tasseled wobbegong” is a sawshark)
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    “underground” (Naked Mole-rats are labeled “moles”)
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  16. JVM

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    As someone who is very involved with wikis this is becoming a common problem I could discuss at length, where even heavy-SEO wikis sometimes get replaced by competitors over say, having an extra table with innacurate info as part of an infobox -- this is definitely the most hilariously illogical example I've seen yet for sure!
     
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  17. Birdsage

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    Doesn’t that just make the Montane Cavy the “wild guinea pig”?
     
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  18. Lota lota

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    They said that guinea pigs (C. porcellus) also lived in the wild in the andes.They didn't say a single thing about any other species
     
  19. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    They actually said "Guinea pigs (C. porcellus) also lived in the wild in the Andes"? That seems like an unwieldy sentence to say out loud. I feel like you are putting words in their mouth.
     
  20. TeaLovingDave

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    I strongly suspect they merely said "wild guinea pigs" and @Lota lota has decided to go with the most cynical interpretation possible in order to have a pretext to post a complaint in this thread :p
     
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