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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by kbaker116, 2 Sep 2009.

  1. ZooElephantMan

    ZooElephantMan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Dear @HAS (the guy who "made" a zoo in haiti),

    if you live in Haiti and are making a zoo there, then why on Zoochat does it say you are from:

    "NYC, NY, USA"

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  2. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    If the zoos are on Long Island then it isn't debatable that Long Island has AZA accredited collections on it, even if said collections are found in New York City.

    ~Thylo:cool:
     
  3. OkapiJohn

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    Hello everyone, joining the discussion. I just hear about a new zoo that is gonna open in my home country and its initial investment was 70 million euros. The owner of the zoo already was the owner of the land (inheritance from the family). So my big question is, how do you get the money? Do you have to work a lot yourself designing the project and then try to find investors? I know that you can easily get animals from other collections (for free, except for the transport) but the land, the construction, all the permits, the wages of the workers, etc. It seems like you can only open a zoo if you have born rich or you won the lottery.

    And yes, I also dream to create my own zoo and create a huge conservation hub!
     
  4. Westcoastperson

    Westcoastperson Well-Known Member

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    Some people save up and do things like sell their houses or personal items. One really interesting way to startup a zoo is by using crowdfunding. By paying people can choose things like animal names all the way up to what animals they want at the zoo. Many zoos use local corporations or businesses to help fund new exhibits so that could always be the way to go.
     
  5. OkapiJohn

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    Thank you very much for your detailed perspective!
     
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  6. Batto

    Batto Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I founded my zoo step by step. Twice actually, in two different countries. I did not sell my house or personal items, I'm not Richie Rich, have not won the lottery (yet?) and I have never heard of any zoo successfully established by crowd funding. I don't have 70 millions to spend, my zoo is tiny and I do most of the work by myself, but it's still a licensed zoo with over 50 animal species. I don't know how @Westcoastperson got his / her zoo running, but you can read up on my story here:
    How to found a zoo - WdG Greifswald and WdG Salzburg [Welt der Gifte Greifswald (Closed)]

    In general, founding a zoo is indeed something for the affluent if you want to follow the usual path of charismatic megafauna and mass entertainment. There are, however, other ways, but none of them will make you rich. ^^
     
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    Oh no I don’t own a zoo and none of these are massive investments for extremely fancy exhibits these are just to help with basic costs. I have not personally done any of these but I know people who have. Also I second what batto said these will not make you rich as these investments (except for the house) legally are required to go to your zoo and I don’t know many if any people at all who have gotten rich off of a zoo.
     
  8. Andrew Swales

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    IS IT ... ?
    Rather than just making the statement, could you list zoos which have started by Crowdfunding..?
     
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    Ok there is the Heart of England Wildlife Prak slated to open sometime this year. While yes this one hasn't opened they have acquired the animals, public support, and approval from the local county the problem lies in finding a good plot of land, not financial problems.
    About — Heart of England Wildlife Park
     
  10. Batto

    Batto Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Yet you speak with great confidence...;)
    We'll have yet to see whether this is a good idea and a sustainable option.

    And no, you do not get all animals for free. And some you don't get at all if you're not accredited as member of certain zoo organizations, such as EAZA.
     
  11. Andrew Swales

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    They have much work to do to get open in 9 months, if they haven't even found a site yet...
     
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    I can have all the confidence in the world but I can’t truly know until it happens. And yes 9 months is a small amount of so my best guess is best case scenario early summer of 2022 if everything goes well for the zoo.
     
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    True - yet you're already handing out advice like a man of the world. ^^
     
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    That is fair, I was trying to give ideas I have heard of when I myself have had no experience but they aren't crazy ideas. Crowdfunding can be a great way to spread the word and build anticipation while also making money. And having local sponsors can also help local businesses thrive and cover the costs of a zoo, a symbiotic relationship almost.
     
  15. ThylacineAlive

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    Crowdfunding sounds like a way to potential fund a new habitat or exhibit complex (if anything) more than an entire zoo. I'm not overly hopeful for the Heart of England Wildlife Park, but I'd like to be proven wrong. Allowing any rando to control some aspect of your zoo sounds like chaos to me.

    ~Thylo