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A Tale of Two Cities: Overlap Species in Nearby Zoos

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  1. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Over the last couple of years, I've been able to look at some zoos I have visited before in a bit of a different light, owing to the fact that I now try to keep full species lists for most zoos I visit. During this time, some of the zoos I've been able to visit that I am now looking at a little differently are the zoos of Chicago and the Twin Cities (for those who don't know that's Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota).

    I, as others have before me, made some obvious observations comparing the zoos of these two cities. Both have a smaller, more popular zoo in the center of the city which receives lots of funding and has had multiple new exhibits in recent years. Each city also has a much larger (but less popular) zoo in the suburbs outside the city that hasn't had a new exhibit in years due to a lack of funding. Each city also has a major aquarium.

    In Chicago, this is Lincoln Park Zoo, Brookfield Zoo, and Shedd Aquarium. In the Twin Cities, this is Como Park Zoo, Minnesota Zoo, and Sea Life Minnesota.

    One thing that became apparent when I was getting species lists for these facilities was that it seemed like these sets of zoos had opposite approaches to "overlap species" - what I'm calling a species kept in more than one zoo in the city. In the Twin Cities, it seemed that none of the zoos really have any overlap in species at all. In contrast, I felt like in Chicago I just kept seeing the same species over and over again. How true is this? Did it just appear that way in my mind, or is there really something going on here? Let's take a closer look at my species lists and find out.
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Twin Cities: Como Park and Minnesota

    I have to get this out right away - I currently do not have a species list for Sea Life Minnesota, which means I cannot accurately asses its collections' similarities to Minnesota and Como Park, which means I'll be stuck just comparing those two for now.

    Also, for ease of counting (since few zoos sign them) I'll be counting all corals and African Rift Valley cichlids as one species each. This won't affect our comparison of Minnesota's and Como Park's collections very much.

    Como Park Zoo Full Species List: Como Park Zoo and Conservatory Full Species List [Como Park Zoo and Conservatory]
    Minnesota Zoo Full Species List: Minnesota Zoo Full Species List [Minnesota Zoo]

    Como Park Zoo Full Species Count: 87
    Minnesota Zoo Full Species Count: 314

    List of overlap species:
    African Penguin
    American Bison
    Amur Tiger
    Common Shelduck
    Cougar
    Gray Wolf
    Reindeer/Caribou
    Sunbittern
    White-faced Whistling Duck
    Total number of overlap species: 9

    Como Park and Minnesota have, just as it seems, very little overlap in collection. This can largely be attributed to the fact that these collections have different focuses. Como Park Zoo has a large focus on African megafauna, while Minnesota focuses mainly on cold-climate species and doesn't have any African species bigger than a Red River Hog. In fact, even a couple of the overlap species between the collection are slightly different. Como Park keeps Domestic Reindeer while Minnesota keeps Woodland Caribou. Como Park keeps normal hybridized bison while Minnesota has a generically pure herd.

    Como Park and Minnesota do seem to be actively avoiding overlap whenever possible, due to the fairly high number of very similar species between the two collections. For example:
    -Como Park keeps Chilean Flamingoes while Minnesota keeps Lesser Flamingoes.
    -Minnesota keep Golden Lion Tamarins while Como Park keeps Golden-headed Lion Tamarins.
    -Minnesota keeps Ring-tailed Lemurs while Como Park keeps Blue-eyed Black Lemurs.
    -Minnesota keeps Linnie's Two-toed Sloth while Como Parks keeps Hoffmann's Two-toed Sloth.
    -Como Park keeps Dall Sheep while Minnesota keeps Transcaspian Urial.
    -Como Park keeps Gray and Harbor Seals while Minnesota keeps Hawaiian Monk Seals.

    Unfortunately though, although it feels nice for zoo enthusiasts to visit these two collections and see completely different animals, the local zoo visiting public doesn't seem to see it this way. Como Park sees many more visitors than Minnesota, which can be largely owed to its more ABC collection. Minnesota Zoo has almost closed multiple times in the last decade, and really does provide proof that ABC animals are required for a major zoo to stay afloat, even when you have a really unique collection (in contrast to Como Park which may be the most generic zoo in the country).
     
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  3. SwampDonkey

    SwampDonkey In the Swamp Premium Member 5+ year member

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    Do you want to keep this just to Min/St. Paul and Chicago or can we expand to other cities with two public zoos? For example Tampa has ZooTampa and Busch Gardens as well as Fl Aquarium and Clearwater Marine Aquarium. :)
     
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    This could be an exciting thread and I'm posting here so that I receive email updates. Thanks for the analysis.
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I only have lists for Min/St. Paul atm so this'll be pretty short - when I'm done I'd love to see others cover other cities!
     
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    The WCS zoos all have California sea lions and both the Bronx and Central Park have snow leopards and grizzly bears
     
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    They aren’t in the same city, but the Phoenix Zoo and the Wildlife World Zoo are roughly 40 minutes apart. Does this count?
    (Posting this to receive email updates, but also because I genuinely think this is an interesting topic)
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Here's a graph of what zoos the species in Twin Cities zoos can be found in, to make it more apparent how few of the species overlap:

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    Don't get ahead of yourselves. :p
     
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    I wanted to object to the proposition that Como Park is the most generic city zoo in the country but I’m coming up short on what would beat it. Peoria, Henry Vilas, and Milwaukee are the closest I can figure.

    EDIT: To contribute something on topic, I might do North Carolina / Greensboro Science Center as a similar-ish pairing.
     
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    I don't really know anything about Peoria so I can't comment there, but Henry Vilas and Milwaukee are both nowhere near that. Milwaukee is extremely unique since the whole zoo is basically stuck in the 1960s and the whole zoo feels like a trip back in time. The bird house is also super unique. Henry Vilas is a lot more generic but still has the wonderful Wisconsin Heritage complex and a wonderful small-zoo charm (which Como does not have because of all its mega-budget exhibits).
     
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    Chicago: Lincoln Park and Brookfield

    Lincoln Park Zoo Species List: Lincoln Park Zoo Full Species List [Lincoln Park Zoo]
    Brookfield Zoo Species List: Brookfield Zoo Full Species List [Brookfield Zoo]

    Lincoln Park Zoo Species Count: 156
    Brookfield Zoo Species Count: 367

    Brookfield-Lincoln Park overlap species:
    African Dwarf Crocodile
    African Lion
    African Painted Dog
    Allen’s Swamp Monkey
    Amazon Milk Frog
    Anthony’s Poison Dart Frog
    Aruba Island Rattlesnake
    Bald Eagle
    Bali Myna
    Black Rhinoceros
    Black Tree Monitor
    Blue-bellied Roller
    Blue-crowned Laughingthrush
    “Blue-crowned Motmot”
    Blue-faced Honeyeater
    Blue-gray Tanager
    Callimico
    Common Dwarf Mongoose
    Crested Wood-Partridge
    Domestic Bactrian Camel
    Domestic Goat
    Eastern Massasauga
    Emerald Starling
    Emperor Newt
    Generic Giraffe
    Gray Seal
    Green Tree Python
    Grevy’s Zebra
    Helmeted Curassow
    Hoffmann’s Two-toed Sloth
    Inca Tern
    Jamaican Iguana
    Jambu Fruit Dove
    Klipspringer
    Laughing Kookaburra
    Madagascar Hissing Cockroach
    Meerkat
    Naked Mole Rat
    North American River Otter
    Northern White-cheeked Gibbon
    Oriente Knight Anole
    Polar Bear
    Prehensile-tailed Skink
    Pygmy Hippopotamus
    Pygmy Slow Loris
    Red-billed Hornbill
    Red-capped Cardinal
    Red Panda
    Red River Hog
    Rio Fuerte Beaded Lizard
    Scarlet Ibis
    Snow Leopard
    Snowy Egret
    Solomon Islands Leaf Frog
    Sunbittern
    Taveta Golden Weaver
    Tawny Frogmouth
    Trumpeter Swan
    Victoria Crowned-Pigeon
    Violaceous Turaco
    Western Gaboon Viper
    Western Lowland Gorilla
    White-blotched River Stingray
    White Stork
    White-headed Buffalo Weaver
    White-rumped Shama
    Total number of overlap species: 66

    As you can see, it was not just my imagination, Brookfield and Lincoln Park have taken an opposite approach to overlap species in comparison to in Minnesota. 66 species is quite the significant number - it makes up nearly 18% of Brookfield's collection and 42% of Lincoln Park's collection. Both zoos are trying to be comprehensive collections with little no major focus, hence the much greater overlap than at Minnesota and Como Park. Nearly every section of both of these zoos is filled with significant overlap with the other collection (except The Living Coast at Brookfield, since Lincoln Park lacks an aquarium building).

    While it was a bit boring to see a lot of the same species over and over when I was recently in Chicago, it isn't as if this doesn't have benefits. Individual animals get transferred quite frequently between Brookfield, Lincoln Park and Shedd, and the three zoos have worked to together closely on a number of successful breeding programs, including for Callimico, White-blotched River Stingray, and Blanding's Turtle. Although it is perhaps a bit tiring to those of us who try to pay attention to every species, most visitors probably don't even notice the overlap (if they even visit more than one collection in the first place).

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    Don't worry, I'll get to Shedd in the next post.
     
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    I would think so, Litchfield Park is solidly in the Phoenix metro area. Phoenix also makes a good comparison for OdySea and SEALIFE, both AZA accredited aquariums in the Phoenix Metro area.
     
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    Oh my.
    They had even more overlap a few years ago, with Amur Tiger, Amur Leopard, Aardvark, & Moholi Bushbaby being shared between them.
    (And Harbor Seal)
     
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    You accidentally linked the Lincoln Park Zoo species list thread twice for both. I'll link the correct link right here:

    Brookfield Zoo Full Species List [Brookfield Zoo]
     
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    Thanks for making this comparison! One small correction, Minnesota Zoo is no longer a holder of Transcaspian Urail. The last one either passed away or was moved to a different location a couple months ago.
     
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    Chicago: Lincoln Park and Shedd Aquarium

    Shedd Aquarium species list: Shedd Aquarium Full Species List [Shedd Aquarium]

    Shedd Aquarium species count: 1011*
    Lincoln Park Zoo Species count: 156

    Lincoln Park-Shedd overlap species:
    African Great Lakes cichlids
    Amazon Milk Frog
    Anthony’s Poison Dart Frog
    Dyeing Poison Dart Frog
    Red-footed Tortoise
    Ruddy Duck
    White-blotched River Stingray
    Yellow-spotted Amazon River Turtle
    Total: 8 species

    Due to the lack of an aquarium building at Lincoln Park, there is very little overlap between Shedd Aquarium and Lincoln Park. Interestingly, 6 out of these 8 species are at the Small Mammal-Reptile house in Lincoln Park and in the Amazon Rising gallery at Shedd. This is because nearly all of Lincoln Park's herps and aquatic species are found in that building, and nearly all of Shedd's non-aquatic species are in that gallery.

    *Note that this count is significantly lowered from the actual species count of the facility thanks to the cichlid/coral rule I've been using.
     
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    Chicago: Brookfield and Shedd Aquarium

    Shedd Aquarium species count: 1011
    Brookfield Zoo species count: 367


    Brookfield-Shedd overlap: 63 species
    Alligator Snapping Turtle
    Amazon Milk Frog
    Anthony’s Poison Dart Frog
    Atlantic Cownose Ray
    Atlantic Spadefish
    Banded Leporinus
    Banggai Cardinalfish
    Basketmouth Cichlid
    Black Crappie
    Blackstripe Topminnow
    Blind Cave Fish
    Blue Tang
    Boeseman’s Rainbowfish
    Brazilian Teal
    Bristlenose Plecostomus
    Bubble-tip Anemone
    California Moray
    California Sea Lion
    Channel Catfish
    Chinese Crocodile Lizard
    Common Plecostomus
    Coral (I know Shedd and Brookfield have at least one species in common)
    Coral Beauty
    Dwarf Seahorse
    Garibaldi
    Giant Cockroach
    Giant Monkey Frog
    Glass Bloodfin Tetra
    Grass Carp
    Green Swordtail
    Greenside Darter
    Harlequin Tuskfish
    Humpback Cleaner Shrimp
    Lemon Goby
    Leopard Shark
    Longnose Butterflyfish
    Lookdown
    Moon Jelly
    Neon Tetra
    Ocellaris Clownfish
    Orange Anthias
    Orangespotted Sunfish
    Powder Blue Tang
    Pacific Halfmoon
    Pacific Spiny Lobster
    Pumpkinseed
    Purple Tang
    Rainbow Darter
    Rock Bass
    Round Goby
    Sexy Shrimp
    Spiny-headed Tree Lizard
    Striped Surfperch
    South American Lungfish
    Tailspot Blenny
    Tentacled Snake
    Tomato Clownfish
    White-blotched River Stingray
    White Cloud Mountain Minnow
    Yellow-banded Poison Dart Frog
    Yellow-spotted Climbing Toad
    Yellow Perch
    Yellow Tang
    Total overlap species: 63

    I was absolutely shocked to find that Brookfield and Shedd have nearly as much overlap as Brookfield does with Lincoln Park, as I hadn't really noticed this on my visit to Shedd. But that's simply because Shedd is so packed with species it's harder to notice the species you saw yesterday. Most of the overlap species here are at Brookfield found in The Living Coasts building (for obvious reasons), but a number of them can also be found in The Swamp. At Shedd, the overlap species can be found scattered across the facility. Overlap species between these two collections make up 17% of Brookfield's collection and whopping 6% of Shedd's! That's really, really high! I thought this was a fluke of the coral/cichlid rule, but I found re-implementing it only changed it to 5% of Shedd's collection, which is still shockingly high.
     
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    There are three species that overlap between all three major Chicago zoos:


    Amazon Milk Frog
    Anthony’s Poison Dart Frog
    White-blotched River Stingray

    Not sure what's going on with the poison dart frog, but the milk frog is just a common species in all zoos and the stingray is a species which the Chicago zoos all work closely with (Shedd is the studybook holder). Even just a few years ago, this number would have been higher - Blanding's Turtle and Callimico are notable as species that would have made this list even a couple of years ago but are absent from one or two collections. Shedd dropped Callimico in favor of Hawk-headed Parrot. Blanding's Turtle is no longer on exhibit at Shedd or Lincoln Park but I wouldn't be surprised if both still keep them bts, but Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum was always the powerhouse breeder of this species in the area anyways.

    Also interesting to note that once again, these species are all at the Small-Mammal Reptile House in Lincoln Park and and Amazon Rising at Shedd - these exhibit are areas which seem particularly heavy with repeat species. At Brookfield, two out of these three species are kept in The Swamp, but Anthony's Poison Dart Frog is kept in Reptiles and Birds.

    It seems 9.3% of species kept in the major Chicago zoos overlap between at least two of the zoos.*

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    *Again, note artificially lowered Shedd total due to the cichlid/coral rule. Lincoln Park needs to start signing its cichlids and Brookfield needs to sign its corals!