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Australasian Ceboidea (NW Monkey) Populations (Present and Historic)

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  1. steveroberts

    steveroberts Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Golden Lion Tamarins (leontopithecus rosalia) which arrived or were born in Australasia between 1964 and 1984:


    (From International Studbook for Golden Lion Tamarins) This is just the first individuals in our region, (plan to continue) so according to the studbook history:
    Side note: have listed in different order to some of where how they are listed (numbered more specifically) in the studbook, arrival time/birth date if in Australasia is listed before an individual born out of the region first.


    (f) Unnamed Female 1 (dam: wild & sire: wild)

    born: (wild) Brazil (date ?)
    arrived: Brookfield Zoo (Chicago) USA on 16 August 1963
    arrived: Taronga Zoo (Sydney) Australia on 4 January 1964
    died: Taronga Zoo on 7 September 1964

    (m) Unnamed Male 1 (dam: wild & sire: wild)

    born: (wild) Brazil (date ?)
    arrived: Brookfield Zoo on 16 August 1963
    arrived: Taronga Zoo on 4 January 1964
    died: Taronga Zoo on 23 June 1964


    (?) Unnamed Infant 1 (dam: Unnamed Female 1 & sire: Unnamed Male 1)

    born: Brookfield Zoo on 27 October 1963
    arrived: Taronga Zoo on 4 January 1964
    died: Taronga Zoo on 14 August 1964


    (?) Unnamed Infant 2 (dam: Unnamed Female 1 & sire: Unnamed Male 1)
    born: Brookfield Zoo on 27 October 1963
    arrived: Taronga Zoo on 4 January 1964
    died: Taronga Zoo on 12 October 1964

    After these four individuals to Taronga Zoo from Brookfield Zoo there is no record of any other GL Tamarins being imported into Australasia until 16 August 1980 at Adelaide Zoo. Mentioned too are the first individuals to arrive at Melbourne in July 1988, Perth in September 1984 and Wellington in September 1990, after 1964 Taronga would not receive another GL Tamarin until the arrival of six year old female Patricia in August 1991 from Stockholm Zoo Sweden, who would later move to Perth Zoo in 1996 and give birth (albeit unsuccessfully) but I digress..So next:

    (m) Napoleo (dam: Female C & sire: Old Man)
    born: Du-Mond Conservancy/Monkey Jungle (Miama) USA on 19 March 1971
    arrived: National Zoo Park (Washington) USA on 16 August 1975
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo Australia on 16 August 1980
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 14 August 1982


    (f) Beauty (dam: Mom & sire: Dad)
    born: National Zoo Park on 8 July 1978
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1980
    arrived: Melbourne Zoo Australia on 20 July 1988
    died: Melbourne Zoo on 11 May 1992


    (f) Snuffy (dam: Female A & sire: Solomon)
    born: National Zoo Park on 28 June 1979
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1980
    arrived: Melbourne Zoo on 20 July 1988
    (re)arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 10 July 1992
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 11 January 1996


    (m) C1 (dam: Celia & sire: Brutus)
    born: National Zoo Park on 8 August 1979
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1980
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 10 December 1980


    (m) B1 (dam: Mom & sire: Dad) {younger full sibling of Beauty}
    born: National Zoo Park on 10 August 1979
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1980
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1983


    (f) Alexis (dam: 728 & sire: Levi)
    born: National Zoo Park on 17 September 1979
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 16 August 1980
    arrived: Wellington Zoo New Zealand on 6 September 1990
    died: Wellington Zoo on 24 October 1994


    (f) Unnamed Infant Female 1 (dam: Beauty & sire: Napoleo)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 28 December 1980
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 28 December 1980

    (f) Unnamed Infant Female 2 (dam: Beauty & sire: Napoleo)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 28 December 1980
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 28 December 1980


    (m) Unnamed Infant Male 1 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 23 August 1981
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 23 August 1981

    (m) Unnamed Infant Male 2 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 23 August 1981
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 23 August 1981


    (f) Giget (dam: Beauty & sire: Napoleo)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 5 December 1981
    arrived: Taronga Zoo on 5 October 1993
    died: Taronga Zoo on 27 October 1994

    (f) Princes (Princess?) (dam: Beauty & sire: Napoleo)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 5 December 1981
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 25 October 1990


    (f) Unnamed Infant Female 3 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 14 August 1982
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 14 August 1982

    (f) Unnamed Infant Male 3 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 14 August 1982
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 14 August 1982


    (?) Unnamed Infant 3 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 23 December 1982
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 23 December 1982

    (?) Unnamed Infant 4 (dam: Alexis & sire: B1)
    born: Adelaide Zoo on 23 December 1982
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 23 December 1982


    (f) J (dam: Bertha & sire: Wildlife)
    born: Los Angeles Zoo USA on 13 April 1980
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 22 November 1983
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 6 October 1986


    (m) Tangelo (dam: S1 & sire: Percy)
    born: Los Angeles Zoo on 14 June 1981
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 22 November 1983
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 22 October 1990


    (m) K (dam: Shimmer & sire: Oro)
    born: Lincoln Children's Zoo USA on 16 September 1981
    arrived: Adelaide Zoo on 23 November 1983
    died: Adelaide Zoo on 26 December 1984


    (m) Stubb (dam: WD-4 & sire: Unnamed Male Studbook No.#589)
    born: Woodland Park Zoo (Seattle) USA on 10 May 1981
    arrived: Perth Zoo Australia on 26 September 1984
    died: Perth Zoo on 17 August 1995


    (f) Goldie (dam: Bertha & sire: Wildlife) (older full sibling of J)
    born: Los Angeles Zoo on 1 August 1978
    arrived: Perth Zoo on 2 October 1984
    died: Perth Zoo on 19 May 1987


    (m) Scarface (dam: S.T & sire: Fang)
    born: Henry Doorly Zoo (Omaha) USA on 1 May 1982 (went to Los Angeles Zoo 8 Feb' 1984)
    arrived: Perth Zoo on 2 October 1984
    died: Perth Zoo on 9 April 1986


    tbc.....
     
  2. Jambo

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    Thanks for this list @steveroberts ! It's really interesting to have insight on the founders of our regional population, especially for a small, yet very fascinating species like the Golden Lion Tamarin.
     
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    Thanks for undertaking this monumental task @steveroberts.

    I have some information on New Zealand holdings, but will PM this to you rather than post it here so you can decide as the thread author how you want to work it in.
     
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    @Jambo @Zoofan15 @Zorro Thanks guys

    @Zoofan15
    Thanks bro but please feel free to add yourself of course, just wanted to get it started am happy if anyone wants to contribute as much as they want (especially after 2008 where the studbook have pdf of stops, from there was hoping to gradually obtain info through our members and potential zoo email replies fingers crossed), was hoping this could just be the start of this thread and over the years if any of us ZC members find info on other Tamarins, Marmosets, Squirrel & Spider & Capuchin Monkeys in Australasia past and present we have a thread to discuss (-:
     
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    Sure, if you're happy for me to do so, I will post the info I have on New Zealand's Golden lion tamarins and Black-handed spider monkeys tonight. I have both current and historical information.

    Just wanted to check that was fine with you as usually the thread authors (including myself) prefer to update their own threads and I didn't want to interfere with any plans you had.
     
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    @Zoofan15 Totally get/relate with the author of thread feeling, but please feel feel bro, with this thread it was one that started with amigos such as yourself in mind to potentially contribute too if you didn't mind.

    With the thread the only plans that have so far was to write up info from the GL Tamarin studbook and later CT Tamarins studbooks over time (but happy for anybody to do as much of it too as they like) and by the time have reached the end of those studbooks that can find a way to bring it all the way to the present.
     
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    Cool, I'll start with New Zealand holdings and then give you a hand with Perth Zoo. @Jambo may like to help with Melbourne Zoo as well as would be familiar with their holdings.
     
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    Sounds good. I'll post some info regarding their Tamarins too. @steveroberts do you want their Black Handed Spider Monkey info as well?
     
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    Taronga Zoo - Golden Lion Tamarin

    Complete History:

    2.2 were imported in 1964:

    1.0 Unnamed
    Born in the Wild Unknown
    Sent to Chicago Zoo 16/08/1963
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 04/01/1964
    Died at Taronga Zoo 23/06/1964

    0.1 Unnamed
    Born in the Wild Unknown
    Sent to Chicago Zoo 16/08/1963
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 04/01/1964
    Died at Taronga Zoo 07/09/1964

    0.0.1 Unnamed
    Born at Chicago Zoo 27/10/1963
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 04/01/1964
    Died at Taronga Zoo 14/08/1964

    0.0.1 Unnamed
    Born at Chicago Zoo 27/10/1963
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 04/01/1964
    Died at Taronga Zoo 12/10/1964

    0.2 were imported in 1991:

    0.1 Patricia
    Born at Skansen Zoo 20/08/1986
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 23/08/1991
    Sent to Perth Zoo 27/03/1996

    0.1 Poco
    Born at Skansen Zoo 05/05/1989
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 23/08/1991
    Died at Taronga Zoo 31/07/1993

    0.1 was transferred in in 1993:

    0.1 Giget
    Born at Adelaide Zoo 05/12/1981
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 05/10/1993
    Died at Taronga Zoo 27/10/1994

    1.0 was imported in 1994

    1.0 Jamie
    Born at the National Zoo 19/03/1984
    Sent to Adelaide Zoo 06/12/1985
    Sent to Wellington Zoo 06/09/1990
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 18/02/1994
    Died at Taronga Zoo 18/02/1999

    0.1 was imported in 1995:

    0.1 Jari
    Born at the Rio de Janeiro Primate Centre 18/02/1993
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 30/06/1995
    Died at Taronga Zoo 23/10/1996

    Jari gave birth to 1.1 offspring in 1996:

    1.0 Unnamed
    Born at Taronga Zoo 22/10/1996
    Died at Taronga Zoo 23/10/1996
    Sire: Jaime

    0.1 Unnamed
    Born at Taronga Zoo 23/10/1996
    Died at Taronga Zoo 23/10/1996
    Sire: Jaime

    0.1 was transferred in in 1997:

    0.1 Amazon
    Born at Adelaide Zoo 21/09/1993
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 21/08/1997
    Died at Taronga Zoo 19/04/1998

    1.0 was transferred in/out in 2003:

    1.0 Patrick
    Born at Dublin Zoo 20/07/2001
    Sent to Mogo Zoo 08/07/2003
    Arrived at Taronga Zoo 10/07/2003
    Sent to Mogo Zoo 17/08/2003

    Taronga Zoo has not held this species since 2003.

    Additional Notes/Info:

    The 2.2 Golden lion tamarin imported in 1964 were a breeding pair and their two offspring. Unfortunately they all died the year they arrived.

    Taronga Zoo were without Golden lion tamarins for 27 years until 1991, when they imported two females from Sweden.

    Jari’s cause of death appears to be birth complications given she gave birth to the second of twins the day she died (with the other born the previous day).

    Since the 2003 transfer in/out was only for a month following the animal’s import from Ireland, it’s reasonable to assume he was quarantined at Taronga; and while this was technically the last Golden lion tamarin held at the zoo, Taronga had made the decision to phase this species out with the death of their elderly male tamarin in 1999.

    Next up, Wellington Zoo!
    Aa
     
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    I also just remembered I have a book by Lou Grossfeldt (former Taronga primate keeper) which may have some info of interest, regarding this topic. I'll see what I can find.
     
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    Unfortunately, I don’t think the book would touch too much on them given the zoo weren’t very successful with this species. The original quartet all died within a year of arriving; and within Lou’s time at the zoo, the only birth ended in the death of the mother and both infants. It’d be interesting to know more details on this, but given the infants were born a day apart, it’s possible the birth was prolonged and required intervention.

    It’s a shame Taronga never persisted with this species. Since they held them, they’ve been downgraded from critically endangered to endangered, but new holders are always welcome. They’re not an easy species to successfully breed, but zoos like Adelaide who hold multiple pairs have been highly successful; as well a few zoos who’ve held a single pair.
     
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    @Jambo Oh please yes that would be great to see the info on the BH Spider Monkeys. Am hoping as time goes on this thread can be a place where as much background info on all the NW monkeys in our region can be documented for anyone who's keen to find out details about the individuals of all the Cebodidea species (albeit a long difficult task, but thats why have loved seeing what you guys have written so far). BH Spider Monkeys happen to be one of my personal favourites out of the monkeys of the world, and was sorry to see them go from Taronga and Perth.

    @Chlidonias @Jambo @Zoofan15 @Zorro (alphabetical lol)
    On another note, was having a look on the IUCN site a few nights ago and saw that the Varied White-Fronted Capuchins (cebus versicolor but until really recently classified as a subspecies cebus albifrons versicolor) are now classified as an endangered species but not sure if the WF Capuchins at Gorge and Halls Gap are indeed Varied or Humboldt's White-Fronted Capuchins (cebus albifrons) or potentially hybrids (including possibly of other WF Capuchin species, formerly considered subspecies)?
     
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    Wikipedia lists them as Varied white-fronted capuchin (Cebus versicolor). I’m willing to believe this is accurate as the species list was presumably compiled by someone with confidence i.e. the facility themselves.

    That said, the Exotic Mammals thread lists them as Cebus albifrons, which is the Humboldt’s subspecies - noting they may have come from Perth Zoo. It’s possible they’re a hybrid as if they were the endangered Varied subspecies, I’d have expected a greater emphasis on breeding them.
     
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    Perth's white fronted capuchins were identified as Cebus albifrons pleei, but I notice that this has been superceded by versicolor. The Gorge animals (and presumably Halls Gap individuals) are descended from the original PZ group. No hybrids.
    Again people are confusing the threatened status as being the important reason for continuing to manage a species. There was never any real interest outside Perth (with Gorge taking surplus individuals) in keeping White-fronted caps. The Australasian region turned towards the more numerous and generic Tufted caps in preference. The region has (or had) little interest in actively breeding South American primates beyond display (Golden lion and Cotton tops, excepted). It's a real pity as primate imports are relatively straight-forward compared to other animal groups.
     
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    Wellington Zoo - Golden Lion Tamarin

    Early History:


    1.2 were imported in 1990:

    1.0 Jamie
    Born at the National Zoo 19/03/1979
    Sent to Adelaide Zoo 06/12/1985
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 06/09/1990
    Sent to Taronga Zoo 18/02/1994

    0.1 Alexis
    Born at the National Zoo 17/09/1979
    Sent to Adelaide Zoo 16/08/1980
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 06/09/1990
    Died at Wellington Zoo 24/10/1994

    0.1 Kat
    Born at Adelaide Zoo 09/11/1989
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 06/09/1990
    Sent to Auckland Zoo 20/06/2001

    1.0 was imported in 1996:

    1.0 Krefeld
    Born at Krefeld Zoo 19/01/1993
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 08/05/1996
    Died at Wellington Zoo 01/05/2007

    0.1 was imported in 2001:

    0.1 Aide
    Born at Adelaide Zoo 20/10/1988
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 24/05/2001
    Sent to Auckland Zoo 10/09/2007

    Additional Notes/Info:

    The zoo’s first Golden lion tamarins were an 11 year old breeding pair (Jaime and Alexis) and their 10 month old daughter (Kat). The pair produced four litters together at Adelaide Zoo, but sadly ceased to breed upon arriving in Wellington.

    After four years without success, Jamie was returned to Australia in 1994, where he sired a litter in 1996 at Taronga Zoo. Alexis and Kat remained at Wellington and following Kat’s death later that year, a new male was imported from Krefeld Zoo.

    Given Kat was replaced by a 13 year old female (Aide) a year after the arrival of Krefeld, I’d assume they were incompatible. After Krefeld’s death, Aide was transferred to Auckland Zoo and the zoo discontinued with the species for six years.

    Next up, Wellington Zoo - recent history.
     
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    Wellington Zoo - Golden Lion Tamarin

    Recent History:

    After six years without holding Golden lion tamarin, Wellington Zoo imported 1.1 from the United States in 2013:

    1.0 Orolito
    Born at Cleveland Zoo 30/03/2010
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 00/08/2013
    Died at Wellington Zoo 00/08/2014

    0.1 Clementine
    Born at Santa Ana Zoo 27/04/2010
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 00/08/2013
    Still at Wellington Zoo

    Following the death of Orolito, Wellington announced the arrival of a male named Bronx in December 2015. He was born at the Bronx Zoo and came to Wellington Zoo via Auckland Zoo.

    Bronx had apparently died by Febraury 2017, when the zoo’s annual report for that year noted a male had arrived from Adelaide Zoo as a mate for Clementine:

    1.0 Ronaldo
    Born at Adelaide Zoo 06/09/2013
    Arrived at Wellington Zoo 00/02/2017
    Still at Wellington Zoo

    Wellington Zoo have never successfully bred Golden lion tamarin.
     
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    That's simply because that version of the thread was started in 2015, the previous version was from 2014, and the original thread from 2010. The initial split of P. versicolor from P. albifrons was in 2012 but it took a while to take hold - and Neotropical primates are heavily oversplit anyway - so it never got updated in the thread. I'll make a note on the taxonomy in the thread as per the below:

    Just for further info for anyone else interested, a bunch of P. albifrons subspecies were synonymised with P. a. versicolor by Groves in 2001, including P. a. pleei. If P. versicolor is accepted as a valid split (most, but not all, authors do) then it is now monotypic.
     
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