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  1. Ned

    Ned Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I was thinking about the term bastard in animal names such as the Bastard Dory, Bastard Grunt Fish and Bastard Hartebeest. Why bastard? And what other "bastard" animals are there?
     
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    vogelcommando Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Bastard is coming from the Dutch language "bastaard" and means hybrid - not pure. The first researchers who gave animals a name thought in some cases that the animals they gave a name where mixes of different other species and that why they called them bastard.
     
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  3. Ned

    Ned Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Thanks for that VC, very interesting and something I've wondered about for a long time.
     
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    Two other 'bastard' animals come to mind:
    1/ Cetti's Warbler in Spanish is Ruisenor Bastardo, 'Bastard Nightingale', reflecting the idea that some of its notes are reminiscent of Nightingale ('Ruisenor') but that it's nothing like such a good singer.
    2/ My dog, on a bad day
     
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    My personal favourite "bastard animal" is the bastard big-footed mouse.
     
  6. Ned

    Ned Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Thanks for that one, I'd never heard of it.
     
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    MikeG Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    The mouse is eponymous: it should really be called Bastard's Big-footed Mouse (Macrotarsomys bastardi). It's named after a French naturalist, Eugène Joseph Bastard.
     
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    Ned Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I wondered about that with it having an "i" at the end of bastard but then thought surely no one has bastard as surname?
     
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    he also has a species of Madagascan gecko named after him: Paroedura bastardi
     
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    If there was an ancestor of unknown paternity, it's easy to see how the surname came about.
     
  11. Ned

    Ned Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I guess so but if my surname was Bastard I think I'd change it. Imagine situations where you're asked to give a surname only to reply Bastard, in a best case scenario you'd be met with a shocked expression and then sympathy after explaining I that it really is your name, in the worst case you'd just be laughed at.