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British Isles Cup Group A: Edinburgh vs Aspinall

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by CGSwans, 25 Mar 2020.

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Edinburgh/Highland vs Howletts/Port Lympne: Australia And Islands

Poll closed 27 Mar 2020.
  1. Edinburgh/Highland 3-0 Howletts/Port Lympne

    80.0%
  2. Edinburgh/Highland 2-1 Howletts/Port Lympne

    20.0%
  3. Howletts/Port Lympne 2-1 Edinburgh/Highland

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Howletts/Port Lympne 3-0 Edinburgh/Highland

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Bonus vote: Edinburgh/Highland

    15.0%
  6. Bonus vote: Howletts/Port Lympne

    30.0%
  7. No bonus

    5.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    I haven’t reached a naming convention for these combined organisations that I love, but I’ll trust that the voting options make things clear, Australia and Islands.
     
  2. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Rainbow Lorikeet Aviary
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    Koala exhibit
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    Penguin Rock (King, Gentoo, Northern Rockhopper)
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    Wallaby Walkthrough
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  3. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I'm unsure, but do Banteng, Visayan Warty Pig or Visayan Spotted Deer count for this category?
     
  4. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Lemur Walkthrough (Crowned, Red-Bellied, Ring Tailed - unsure if all in walkthrough)
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    Another one of the penguin enclosure showing indoor viewing
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    This would appear to be a very strong category for RZSS with a strong line up of species and excellent enclosures to go with that. There are few zoos in this challenge that would beat them in this category.
     
  5. amur leopard

    amur leopard Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    A few questions - are Japan, Taiwan or Socorro in the Islands category or attached to their nearest continents?

    Anyways, here are the species lists without the fauna from those places we'll see how we get along.

    RZSS:
    Black faced kangaroo
    Crowned lemur
    Lesser hedgehog tenrec
    New Guinea ground cuscus
    Northern koala
    Red-bellied lemur
    Ring-tailed lemur
    Swamp wallaby

    Antarctic Gentoo penguin
    Common barn owl
    Hamerkop
    King penguin
    Madagascar teal
    Meller's duck
    Northern rockhopper penguin
    Pied imperial pigeon
    Rainbow lorikeet
    Southern cassowary
    Swift parrot
    Victoria crowned pigeon
    White-naped pheasant pigeon
    Yellow-crested cockatoo

    Central bearded dragon
    Common blue-tongued skink

    Australian green tree frog

    Aspinall foundation:
    Black and white ruffed lemur
    Black lemur
    Crowned lemur
    Red-bellied lemur
    Eastern grey bamboo lemur
    Fossa
    Greater bamboo lemur
    Ring-tailed lemur

    Green tree python

    White-lipped tree frog

    So that is 25-8 to RZSS overall, but 8-8 in mammals, 14-0 in birds, 2-1 in reptiles and 1-1 in Amphibians. Interesting :D

    Anyways, thanks to my own visits to Edinburgh and HWP and a quick glance through the media galleries along with @britishzoofan's coverage I think I'm voting 2-1 to RZSS with a bonus point to RZSS due to the far superior species list (especially in terms of non-mammals) and good -> excellent enclosures. However, the AF has a seemingly excellent species coverage of the Madagascan area with 7 species of lemur and fossa as their only mammals, so that earns them a point. Does that explanation qualify me for a bonus point?
     
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  6. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Howletts

    Lemur Walkthrough (Black and White Ruffed, Ring-Tailed, Black, Crowned, Red Bellied - unsure which of these are in the walkthrough)
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    Port Lympe

    Lesser Bamboo Lemur exhibit on the left I believe
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    Also, unsure if the Sulawesi Macaques at Howletts count for this round.
     
  7. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Lesser Hedgehog Tenerec enclosure
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    Southern Cassowary enclosure
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    Brilliant Birds (Pied Imperial Pigeon, Victoria Crowned Pigeon - possibly more)
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    Central Bearded Dragon and Pancake Tortoise enclosure
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    Other Koala enclosure
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  8. TNT

    TNT Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Whilst I've not been to the collections, it's a clear 3-1 to RZSS (bonus point to Aspinall). The collection (and variety) at RZSS is far superior, and that can't be ignored. Whilst the Aspinall parks do have a nice set of Malagasy species, most are somewhat common... they do get the bonus point for this though, as it is nice to see somewhere with so many Lemur species, and more importantly Fossa!
     
  9. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    I'm currently swinging in a similar direction to TNT and for similar reasons; the RZSS collections are significantly better in this regard than are the Aspinall collections, without a shadow of a doubt, and merit an easy 3-0. However, the fact that the Aspinall collections do have a pretty nice selection of lemurs, including two major oddities, is *possibly* worth a bonus point.

    As such, I am currently voting 3-1 for RZSS, but may well amend my vote to a straight-up 3-0 once I have given the matter further reflection, considering the fact that from what I have heard on the grapevine, the two oddities in question are species which are being actively phased out as dead-end species by the man at the top :p
     
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  10. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I'm also going to vote 3-1 to RZSS. They are the clear winners in the Australia and Antartica areas. They also have what appears superior exhibit quality. The lorikeet, koala, penguin and lemur enclosures all look fantastic.
    However, I think the Aspinall collections deserve a point as mentioned above because of their excellent selection of species from Madagascar, which is more impressive than RZSS. My only question would be for those who visited, how strong is the exhibit quality at the Aspinall parks as I have never visited and there are few photos in the gallery.
     
  11. sooty mangabey

    sooty mangabey Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand the way these things work - bonus points? - but surely any zoo-based contest involving Aspinall’s marks can only end one way....
     
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  12. (Adsa)

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    The mirror list for these two zoos
    Red means exactly the same species
    Orange means same species different subspecies
    RZSS:

    Black faced kangaroo
    Crowned lemur
    Lesser hedgehog tenrec
    New Guinea ground cuscus
    Northern koala
    Red-bellied lemur
    Ring-tailed lemur
    Swamp wallaby

    Antarctic Gentoo penguin
    Common barn owl
    Hamerkop
    King penguin
    Madagascar teal
    Meller's duck
    Northern rockhopper penguin
    Pied imperial pigeon
    Rainbow lorikeet
    Southern cassowary
    Swift parrot
    Victoria crowned pigeon
    White-naped pheasant pigeon
    Yellow-crested cockatoo

    Central bearded dragon
    Common blue-tongued skink

    Australian green tree frog

    Aspinall foundation:
    Black and white ruffed lemur
    Black lemur
    Crowned lemur
    Red-bellied lemur
    Eastern grey bamboo lemur
    Fossa
    Greater bamboo lemur
    Ring-tailed lemur

    Green tree python

    White-lipped tree frog
     
  13. Jungle Man

    Jungle Man Well-Known Member

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    My vote will be definite and without changes 3-0 in favor of RZSS and I will give a bonus point to Aspinall because of the lemur walkthrough.
     
  14. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Absolutely no idea how this works but I've voted 2-1 Edinburgh, with a bonus vote going towards the Aspinalls.

    ~Thylo
     
  15. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    @CGSwans could we have some clarification on whether species such as Sulawesi Macaque, Banteng and Visayan Warty Pig count for this category.
     
  16. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    No, they don’t. They fall within the Asian category.
     
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