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British Isles Cup Group B: ZSL vs Marwell

Discussion in 'ZooChat Cup' started by CGSwans, 27 Mar 2020.

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ZSL vs Marwell - North America and Europe

Poll closed 29 Mar 2020.
  1. ZSL 3-0 Marwell

    100.0%
  2. ZSL 2-1 Marwell

    0 vote(s)
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  3. Marwell 2-1 ZSL

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    0.0%
  4. Marwell 3-0 ZSL

    0 vote(s)
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  5. Bonus vote: Marwell

    0 vote(s)
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  6. Bonus vote: ZSL

    0 vote(s)
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  7. No bonus

    40.0%
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  1. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    North America and Europe. I confess to knowing nothing about Marwell other than that John Knowles would have been very happy to remain “a chicken man” his entire career. I know he would have been happy to stay a chicken man because he says so in his book about a dozen times, which does make me wonder why he opened a zoo.

    Anyway, let’s get on with it. Remember ‘ZSL’ refers to both London and Whipsnade.
     
  2. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Whipsnade

    European Brown Bear enclosure
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    Wolverine exhibit
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    Eurasian Lynx enclosure
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    Wild Boar enclosure
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    European Bison enclosure
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    Reindeer Paddock
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    Californian Sea Lion outdoors
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    Californian Sea Lion indoors
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  3. TNT

    TNT Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Now this is an interesting one... I'll have to come back later to make some comments.
     
  4. pipaluk

    pipaluk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    I've been trying to think what Marwell actually has in this category and can't find anything! I don't see how Marwell can even get a point!
     
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  5. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    From a quick look at the website as I've never visited: Greater Flamingo, Great Grey Owl, Gila monster. There may be more. However, it appears like a simple 3-0 due to Whipsnade's excellence in this category.
     
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  6. TNT

    TNT Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Following on from the points above, it's a pretty simple 3-0 to Whipsnade, with no bonus point. I hadn't realised how much Marwell was lacking in this category.
     
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  7. TNT

    TNT Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    @TeaLovingDave I'm surprised by your 2-1 vote? If you have the time, it would be great to hear why! :)
     
  8. britishzoofan

    britishzoofan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Marwell

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  9. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Basically because:

    For some reason I recalled them having a *bit* more than has been indicated :p but yes, it's pretty clearly a straight 3-0 to ZSL,
     
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  10. Dylan

    Dylan Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    London Zoo also has some things in this category. I saw [Revee's muntjac], [Mandarin duck], Greater flamingo, great white pelican, [Waldrapp], little egret, western diamondback rattlesnake, sidewinder, gila monster, Sardinian brook salamander and three species of midwife toads. [] species I'm unsure if they count.

    So slam-dump to ZSL.
     
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  11. amur leopard

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    OK, here are the full species list so that everyone can realise just how lacking Marwell are in this category...

    ZSL:
    Black tailed prairie dog
    California sea lion
    Central European wild boar
    Common fallow deer
    European bison
    European brown bear
    European wolverine
    Northern lynx
    Plains buffalo

    American flamingo
    Bar-headed goose
    Barnacle goose
    Burrowing owl
    Emperor goose
    Eurasian great grey owl
    Eurasian North hawk-owl
    Eurasian oystercatcher
    European eider
    European kestrel
    European white stork
    Great white pelican
    Harris' hawk
    Hooded merganser
    Lanner falcon
    Marbled teal
    Snowy owl
    Ural owl
    Black-necked stilt
    Common barn owl
    Common black kite
    Common buzzard
    Eurasian tawny-owl
    European eagle-owl
    Greater flamingo
    Little egret
    Socorro dove
    Western cattle egret

    Corn snake
    Rio Fuerte beaded lizard
    European legless lizard
    European pond turtle
    Gila monster
    Western diamondback rattlesnake

    Marwell:
    Black-winged stilt
    Eurasian great grey owl
    Greater flamingo
    Little egret

    Gila monster
    Rio Fuerte beaded lizard

    Overall, 43-6 :D
    Mammals, 9-0
    Birds, 28-4
    Reptiles, 6-2
    Amphibians I might do later.
     
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  12. pipaluk

    pipaluk Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Absolute walkover clearly! Whipsnade would beat any non specialist collection in the UK in this category I think including Chester
     
  13. TeaLovingDave

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    I reckon RZSS would beat ZSL on this one actually!
     
  14. pipaluk

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    But I would class Highland Wildlife Park as a specialist collection surely?
     
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  15. TNT

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    I'd have to agree there - I guess you could call it a "Eurasian" specialist?
     
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  16. Jungle Man

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    Without Hesitation the winner here is ZSL,that is why I will vote 3-0 in favor of ZSL.
     
  17. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    I would tend to argue that having species from throughout the Northern Hemisphere both Palearctic and Holarctic (plus at least one from below the Equator) makes it a bit too broad to dismiss as a mere specialist :p it's nowhere as narrow a collection as, say, Wildwood or BWC.
     
  18. pipaluk

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    Nit picking I would suggest! How many Australian, African, tropical Asian, South American, Madagascar species do HWP hold?
     
  19. CGSwans

    CGSwans Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Guys, the match is ZSL and Marwell. Let’s save London vs Scotland for a potential final round match-up. :)
     
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  20. tigris115

    tigris115 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    ooc, is there something like a tier list or ranking for the various zoos of the UK?