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  1. zoomaniac

    zoomaniac Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Yes, I'm playing with that idea in my mind, though there are no specific plans yet. But anyway thank you for your offer. It would be great and an honor to meet another zoo enthusiast with local knowledge. I will let you know immediately if this plan becomes real (could be the case in autumn, when the covid situation will maybe less dramatic again and closed areas of Budapest Zoo will open again).

    Not to forget: Thank you for your quick reply too
     
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  2. HungarianBison

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    The Sumatran orang baby was named Móric.
     
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  3. HungarianBison

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    A video about hand-reared bats:
     
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    The hand-rearing of bats is a good example of conservation. The bats don't take up much space and are released into the wild when they can survive there.
     
  6. HungarianBison

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    The money for the biodome ran out, construction is accompanied by political debates between leaders of Budapest and the FIDESZ government.. The zoodirector retired because of the case. If the Pannonia Park will complete, which I strongly doubt, probably will be bonobos.
    Following animals will in the Biodome probably:
    Indian elephant
    White/One-horned rhino
    Maybe Nile hippo
    Sloth bear
    Bonobo
    Javan lutung
    Chevrotain
    Binturong
    Clouded panther
    Fishing cat
    Porcupine
    Hyrax
    Asian small-clawed otter
    Bat-eared fox
    Californian sealion/South African fur seal
    Caribbean manatee
    Waterfowl
    Monitors
    Crocs
    Sharks and rays
    Fish
     
  7. HungarianBison

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    The Zoo Night missed due to Covid-19:(
     
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    The zoo's oldest Dama gazelle named Evita became the world's oldest Dama gazelle:)
     
  9. HungarianBison

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    A Parma wallaby was born:)
     
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    Impressive species list. Are any outdoor exhibits planned ? After Wroclaw is keeping Nil hippos just indoors, I would'nt wonder if Budapest would keep Elephants and rhinos indoors only. Why not, if the indoor exhibit is big enough.

    What will happen to the historical Elephant house, should the Hippos leave it ?
     
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    Sneeuwpanter Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    As i understand it. The Biodome will be next to the outdoor enclosure of the elephants. Like Jungola in Wildlands....

    The big question is will it be finished at all and will everthing be build as it was originally designed or will corners have to be cut
     
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    Yes, the following species will have outdoors :
    Indian elephant
    Rhino
    Sloth bear and ebony leaf monkey
    Sealion or fur seal
    Bonobo
    Asian small clawed otter
    Maybe Crocodiles
    I don't know what will happen to hippos. Just one thing is sure: they will stay in Budapest.
     
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  13. HungarianBison

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    Won't be finished at all. The zoo's new economical leader investigated that 20 billion HUF(60 million Euro, 70 million USD) is needed to complete Pannonia Park completely. Mayor of Budapest and the FIDESZ government either doesn't want to give more money for the project.
     
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    Obligatory to wear masks in the buildings from now on.
     
  15. Kifaru Bwana

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    I do have some doubts as to how the new business administration manager came to conclude this "phantom" guesstimate for a building project.

    My questions:
    What was the original budget and project brief for the building work?
    How much of the building work has been finished now?
    How much as yet to be completed?
    How did the whole project go over original budget and why?
     
  16. HungarianBison

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    1. Budget was 32 billion HUF, implementation is almost similar to project brief.
    2. Around 80% but the almost full money given by EU and government ran out.
    3. Nobody knows that how much money need to build the minimal project. It's maybe around 5-10 billion HUF.
    4. This is a mystery too, nobody knows anything. Maybe managers of the Zoo and/or the contractor stolen it, but it's only a hypothesis. This is Hungary:rolleyes:
     
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  17. Kifaru Bwana

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    Thanks for your comments. They seem to confirm that the claims made by this new manager are probably a bit too "wild" as I can hardly believe that with 75% building work completed completion would cost more than the original 32billion HUF (20billion ... still needed).

    If Hungary still had an independent judiciary and credible political system it would be worthwhile to have an enquiry into potential corruption and defraud. I think the authorities at the helm in Municipality themselves need to be under review too as it is public monies and that no one would know anything is another beggar's belief.
     
  18. HungarianBison

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    Okay, but the contractor costs 62 billion HUF up to now, so this is an incredible rise in the West. Now it looks like the Pannonia Park's full budget will be 62+ 5-20 billion HUF.
    I know it sounds strange, but it's usual in Hungary.
    Btw Hungary named Absurdistan by some of Hungarians. I like my country, but I think it's a very good word for Hungary's actualities(not just for the political actualities).
    But it's offtopic...
     
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    It sounds a bit like the HS2 train in the UK.
     
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  20. HungarianBison

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    Pannonia Park will became more expensive with 200 million HUF due to a well contaminated with bacteria:eek::confused: