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Discussion in 'General Zoo Discussion' started by Meaghan Edwards, 5 Mar 2009.

  1. Pleistohorse

    Pleistohorse Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Just those I’ve seen in the wild:

    1. Red Fox (Germany, Belgium, UK, Kyrgyzstan, Korea, Alaska, Maine)

    2. Grey Fox (Texas and Connecticut)

    3. Swift Fox (South Dakota)

    4. Arctic Fox (Alaska)

    5. Coyote (Texas, Alabama*, New York, Massachusetts, Maine, Oregon, Alaska)

    6. Grey Wolf (Alaska and British Columbia)

    7. Raccoon Dog (Korea)

    8. Golden Jackal (Kyrgyzstan). Seriously.

    *I remained convinced that the large Canid I saw crossing a road outside of Demopolis, Alabama at 0400 in the morning, in 1987, was substantially, if not fully, a Red Wolf.
     
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  2. Dhole dude

    Dhole dude Well-Known Member

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    I’ve seen

    Gray wolfs
    Mexican wolfs
    Red wolfs
    Maned wolfs
    Coyotes
    Dholes
    Black-backed jackals
    Bush dogs
    African painted dog
    Swift foxes
    Gray foxes
    Fenic foxes
    Bat-eared foxes
    Arctic foxes
    Red foxes
    Domestic dogs
     
  3. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Europe's Raccoon Dogs aren't Tanuki either.

    Coyotes get significantly more common in zoos the further west you go from what I've encountered. Still, there are way more wolves in zoos than any other native canid.

    ~Thylo
     
  4. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    There's a few dotted around, mostly unnoticed - and I think the place near Frankfurt that took Gentleshaws' animal still have it.
     
  5. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Yeah but that's one animal that originated from a confiscation(?)

    But you're correct, there are Tanuki in Europe, but the vast, vast majority are descended from mainland Asian exports and these are the animals imported into the US.

    ~Thylo
     
  6. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    Correct :)

    Suspect there will be a good few hybrids in Europe - as I understand the matter, the last import or two into the private trade here before the ban were all Takuki, so people wanting to quickly breed a bunch before the ban hit will have quite possibly not taken all that much care in which animals they paired up :p

    You are however correct that the import in question never went to the States.
     
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  7. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    So sad that before too long there will be no more Raccoon Dogs in western zoos :( Not unless the US randomly peaks in interest for them again which is doubtful.

    ~Thylo
     
  8. aardvark250

    aardvark250 Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    My list:

    Gray wolf
    Black backed jackal
    Dhole
    African painted dog
    Japanese raccoon dog
    Bush dog
    Arctic fox
    Japanese red fox
    Fennec fox

    Unseen: Maned wolf
     
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  9. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    My canids:
    -Coyote (if you accept subspecies I've seen latrans, frustor, mearnsi, ochropus, texensis)
    -Red Wolf
    -Grey Wolf (lupus, baileyi, occidentalis, signatus)
    -Dingo (dingo, hallstromi)
    -Dhole (alpinus/lepturus/whatever they are)
    -African Wild Dog (pictus)
    -Black-Backed Jackal (mesomelas)
    -Bush Dog
    -Maned Wolf
    -Bat-Eared Fox (megalotis, virgatus)
    -Raccoon Dog (ussuriensis, viverrinus)
    -Fennec Fox
    -Arctic Fox
    -Kit Fox (macrotis, mutica)
    -Swift Fox
    -Corsac Fox (turkmenicus)
    -Red Fox (crucigera, fulvus)
    -Grey Fox (cinereoargenteus, californicus, scottii)
    -Island Fox (clementae)

    And that's the lot, excluding C. familiaris.

    ~Thylo
     
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  10. TinoPup

    TinoPup Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Most of the east coast ones seem to be at roadside places/nature centers, too, vs more mainstream zoos having them further west. The two I've seen were at Virginia Living Museum, and Fort Worth.
     
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  11. TeaLovingDave

    TeaLovingDave Moderator Staff Member 10+ year member

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    You're a good way ahead of me, then :p at 33 taxa rather than 22, and 19 species rather than 16:

    Golden Jackal (moreotica)
    Dingo (dingo, hallstromi)
    Grey Wolf (lupus, occidentalis, signatus)
    Black-backed Jackal (mesomelas)
    Maned Wolf
    Dhole (lepturus)
    African Hunting Dog (pictus)
    Raccoon Dog (ussuriensis)
    Bat-eared Fox (megalotis, virgatus)
    Bush Dog
    Cape Fox
    Corsac Fox (turkmenicus)
    Arctic Fox (lagopus)
    Swift Fox
    Red Fox (crucigera, fulvus, silacea)
    Fennec Fox
     
  12. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    You have two very sore misses for me, though...

    ~Thylo
     
  13. carlos55

    carlos55 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Chapultepec zoo in Mexico city has a breeding grupo of tanuki that were recieved from Nagoya zoo in Japan in exchange for volcano rabbits.
     
  14. ThylacineAlive

    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Any idea on numbers?

    ~Thylo
     
  15. carlos55

    carlos55 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    The tanuki have brea quite well at Chapultepec zoo and there are 10 or 12 in 2 different enclousures
     
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  16. twilighter

    twilighter Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    My Canids so far:

    Grey Wolf
    Dingo
    Dhole
    African Wild Dog
    Black-Backed Jackal
    Golden Jackal
    Bush Dog
    Maned Wolf
    Bat-Eared Fox
    Raccoon Dog
    Fennec Fox
    Arctic Fox
    Corsac Fox
    Red Fox
    Cape Fox
     
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  17. BeardsleyZooFan

    BeardsleyZooFan Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    1. Black-backed Jackal (wild)
    2. Coyote (captive + wild)
    3. Gray Wolf (captive)
    4. Dingo/Singing Dog (captive; also not 100% clear on taxonomy but I'm under the impression they're similar enough to be together. Please correct me if I'm wrong!)
    5. Maned Wolf (captive)
    6. African Wild Dog (captive + wild)
    7. Bush Dog (captive)
    8. Arctic Fox (captive)
    9. Fennec Fox (captive)
    10. Red Fox (captive + wild)
    11. Swift Fox (captive)
    12. Gray Fox (captive)
    Saw what very much resembled a decaying roadkill Bat-Eared Fox, but we won't count that.
     
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  18. Giant Eland

    Giant Eland Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    My side-striped jackal drought ended! In 2021 in Uganda I was able to see the species both wild and captive. Plus raccoon dog is now two species (which I've seen both). I've also added a handful of other species wild, which I also bolded.

    1.) (Vulpes cana) Blanford’s fox
    2.) (Vulpes chama) Cape fox
    3.) (Vulpes corsac) corsac fox
    4.) (Vulpes lagopus) arctic fox
    5.) (Vulpes macrotis) kit fox (also wild)
    6.) (Vulpes pallida) pale fox
    7.) (Vulpes rueppellii) Rueppell’s fox
    8.) (Vulpes velox) swift fox
    9.) (Vulpes vulpes) red fox (also wild)
    10.) (Vulpes zerda) fennec fox
    11.) (Urocyon cinereoargenteus) gray fox (also wild)
    12.) (Urocyon littoralis) island fox
    13.) (Cerdocyon thous) Crab-eating Fox (also wild)
    14.) (Lycalopex culpaeus) Colpeo Fox (also wild)
    15.) (Lycalopex griseus) Argentine grey fox (also wild)

    16.) (Lycalopex gymnocercus) pampas fox
    17.) (Lycalopex sechurae) Sechura Fox
    18.) (Lycalopex vetulus) hoary fox
    19.) (Canis adustus) Side-striped Jackal (also wild)
    20.) (Canis anthus) African wolf (also wild)
    21.) (Canis aureus) golden jackal (also wild)
    22.) (Canis latrans) coyote (also wild)
    23.) (Canis lupus) gray wolf- including Dingo & Domestic Dog (also wild)

    24.) (Canis mesomelas) black-backed jackal (also wild)
    25.) Canis simensis) Ethiopian wolf (wild only)

    26.) (Canis rufus) red wolf
    27.) (Chrysocyon brachyurus) maned wolf (also wild)
    28.) (Cuon alpinus) dhole
    29.) (Lycaon pictus) African wild dog
    30.) (Nyctereutes procyonoides) raccoon dog
    31.) (Nyctereutes viverrinus) Japanese raccoon dog
    32.) (Otocyon megalotis) bat-eared fox (also wild)
    33.) (Speothos venaticus) bush dog
     
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  19. MurphyFox

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    It would be amazing if the Smithsonian National Zoo had Dholes or African Wild Dogs.
     
  20. Davdhole

    Davdhole Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Might as well add a list of canids I've seen.

    Coyote (wild and captive)
    Gray fox (wild and captive)
    Arctic fox
    Fennec fox
    Bat-eared fox
    Red fox
    Gray wolf
    Red wolf
    Raccoon dog
    Bush dog
    African wild dog
    Dhole
    New Guinea singing dog

    Hopefully the list grows soon.
     
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