Join our zoo community

Cotswold Wildlife Park and Gardens Crocodilians at Cotswold Wildlife Park

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Bwassa, 10 Jul 2008.

  1. Bwassa

    Bwassa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30 May 2008
    Posts:
    373
    Location:
    Littleborough, Lancs
    I have a guide book from my last visit to Cotswolds which says that since the 1970s, the park has been home to 10 species of crocodilians. The current inhabitants are the Morelets crocs, and I remember one of the keepers telling me that they had Black Caiman there once, but they weren't breeding, so they moved them on. Can anyone out there fill in the remaining 8 species? Presumably they had the usual Nile crocs and American alligators. Pity they didn't carry on with the Black Caiman, I'd love to see one of those!:)
     
  2. Zambar

    Zambar Well-Known Member 15+ year member 10+ year member 5+ year member

    Joined:
    4 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    1,612
    Location:
    Hampshire, United Kingdom
    Yeahh, I noticed that too. I 'spect dwarf crocs were in there at some point.
     
  3. gentle lemur

    gentle lemur Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    8 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    4,981
    Location:
    South Devon
    I remember that in the early days they had American alligators with a round outdoor enclosure for sunny summer days. I'm afraid that I can't quite remember whether it was attached to current crocodile indoor enclosure, so that the outside paddock was along from the siamangs, or whether it was beside the tropical house, where the macaws are now.

    Alan
     
  4. Zambar

    Zambar Well-Known Member 15+ year member 10+ year member 5+ year member

    Joined:
    4 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    1,612
    Location:
    Hampshire, United Kingdom
    Thanks for that. Yeah, a sunny day outdoor enclosure for their morelet's would be an interesting feature, but is there enough room outside their current enclosure to build one?
     
  5. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    It was where the Macaws are now,the Male from the pair that lived in there is Albert at Welsh Mountain Zoo.
     
  6. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    Right here is the list of what Crocodiles that have been kept at Cotswold,
    1 American Alligator
    2 Cuviers Dwarf Caiman
    3 False Gavial
    4 Morelet`s Crocodile
    5 Nile Crocodile
    6 Siamese Crocodile
    7 Spectacled Caiman
    8 West African Dwarf Crocodile
    9 Yacare Caiman

    You may have already noticed that it only lists 9 species not 10,this list has been compiled by the staff at Cotswold from their historical records and only species that they can confirm having been kept at the park are listed.Also not Black Caiman are not listed so not sure where the member of staff got that bit of info from.
     
    Last edited: 6 Dec 2008
  7. Bwassa

    Bwassa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30 May 2008
    Posts:
    373
    Location:
    Littleborough, Lancs
    Thanks zoogiraffe. False Gavial and Siamese Crocodile; fantastic, wish they still had these species! The same member of staff also told us that Barney the Reticulated Python was 25ft long, and one of their Green Anacondas was over 20ft. Are these reliable measurements...?:confused:
     
  8. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    Yep the sizes are about right for the snakes particulary Barney would actually say he was nearer 28ft long having seen him at close quarters.
     
  9. bongorob

    bongorob Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    18 May 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Stoke-on-Trent England
    Amazing. I've seen every species on the list, and I did not think I had seen many crocodilians.

    I've also seen Brown Caiman, Chinese Alligator, Mugger Crocodile, Slender-snouted Crocodile, Johnston's Crocodile, Congo Dwarf Crocodile, American Crocodile, Saltwater Crocodile and Philippine Crocodile. And whatever Paignton have which are labelled as Cuba crocs.
     
    Last edited: 7 Dec 2008
  10. okapikpr

    okapikpr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25 Feb 2008
    Posts:
    1,985
    Location:
    Florida
    I have you all beat....I've seen all 23 species of crocodilian.
     
  11. Zambar

    Zambar Well-Known Member 15+ year member 10+ year member 5+ year member

    Joined:
    4 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    1,612
    Location:
    Hampshire, United Kingdom
    You're all lucky. I've only seen West African Dwarfs, Dwarf Caimans, Chinese Alligators, Niles & Morelet's, so still fairly noviced!
     
  12. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    But seeing them all in 1 collection is cheating a bit i only need to see Black Caiman,Orinoco Crocodile and Gaharial to complete the set,so seeing as Black Caiman are in the U.K it could be down 2 species to see before the end of the year.
     
  13. bloodycurtus

    bloodycurtus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    290
    Location:
    staffordshire england
    where are the black caiman in the uk?
     
  14. kiang

    kiang Well-Known Member 15+ year member

    Joined:
    12 Aug 2007
    Posts:
    6,063
    Location:
    Argyllshire
    Which zoo kept the last gharial in the uk?

    God this thread has gone to pot hasn't it
     
  15. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    Its a pet shop called Emerald Exotics in Witney Oxfordshire.
     
  16. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    Not a clue where had the last Gharial in the U.K but would guess London Zoo.As for the thread going to pot sorry i only posted the list of species that Cotswold have kept.
     
  17. johnstoni

    johnstoni Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2 Mar 2008
    Posts:
    1,454
    Location:
    Surrey
    Paignton held 2 (huge) false gharial until the late 90s.
     
  18. Bwassa

    Bwassa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30 May 2008
    Posts:
    373
    Location:
    Littleborough, Lancs
    You really had me going then, zoogiraffe! I thought a zoo was going to have a new display of Black Caiman. Why is a pet shop selling endangered crocodilians????:mad:
     
  19. zoogiraffe

    zoogiraffe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    12 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    6,338
    Location:
    Middlewich,Cheshire U.K
    This info was taken from another thread from information posted by another user who has now pm me to say it may not be true,as far as i know none of the Crocodilians are for sale at Emerald Exotics they are all owned by the owner but kept their as a means of drawing people into the shop.
     
  20. Bwassa

    Bwassa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30 May 2008
    Posts:
    373
    Location:
    Littleborough, Lancs
    That's a bit better that they are not for sale, but how does the owner get hold of crocodilians anyway? It must be one hell of a pet shop!