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  1. ShonenJake13

    ShonenJake13 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Another Stichting AAP update; female Mimmi (oldest female at the centre) has been moved in with already established pair Rosi (female) and Hiasl (male), leaving males Tanno and Koko behind.
     
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    This seems to be going ahead, with four chimps having arrived in the past four months (Hiasl and Rosi in November 2016, and Bongo and Klaus earlier this month). My prediction is that, if what Nikola has been saying about Koko and two other chimps moving to Skopje from AAP is true, then this mysterious fifth chimp will be moved in with Tanno and Koko and these three will be sent to Skopje.
     
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    A couple of updates: AAP have informed me that the plan is to put Hiasl and Rosi with Mimmi, Tanno and Koko to create a group of five, and a fifth chimp may be due to arrive from Lisbon.
     
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    Is it known to what ssp. they belong (verus, troglodytes or other subspecies)?
     
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    All have unknown status so far
     
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    New female Marria (born approx 2003, western chimp) has arrived at AAP after spending 13 years as a pet in a house in Lisbon. She is currently alone during quarantine but they want to introduce her to Mimmi, Hiasl, Rosi, Tanno and Koko :)
     
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    Another AAP chimp update; the chimp population there is about to reach 46 with the imminent arrival of male Robby from a German circus.
     
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    A couple of changes; chimpanzee Bini has moved from Amersfoort to Neuwied in Germany, and gorilla Ayo at Gaia is a boy not a girl!!
     
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    A really really late thing that I completely missed! In 2015 western female Mahale (born 2004) moved to Amersfoort from Bremerhaven in Germany, so the group at Amersfoort is actually 4.5 at the moment following Bini's move.
     
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    Couple more chimp updates: male Wakili in the group of 10 at Beekse Bergen has been moved into the bachelor group there, so the bachelors are now 6 and the mixed group is 9, like the other mixed group there.

    And female Marlene at Burgers' Zoo passed away :(
     
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    Since we are approaching the middle of the year and so much has happened I thought it best just to give a quick update on the status of the apes in NL.....

    AAP = 46 chimpanzees (Freddy Toto Robby* Oscar Zeef Julio Bie Erik Laurens Tijs Ton Hiasl Mojo Sony Noah Joost Huub Buddy Fuad Fauzi Zorro Kenny Bongo Macario Juus Tomas Klaus Tanno Koko Unyoro, Mimmi Maja Phil Peggy-Sue Linda Rosi Ono Femma Marjo Sylvia Karlien Iris Willy Fiffy Regina Marria)


    AMERSFOORT = 9 chimpanzees (Mike Karibuna Kumi Wingu, Sjors Willy Bibi Chura Mahale)


    APENHEUL = 10 orangutans (Kevin Amos Kawan Baju, Silvia Sandy Wattana Binti Samboja Dayang)

    13 gorillas (Jambo Mapasa Wimbé M'Zungu Jabari, Mintha Mandji Nemsi Gyasi M'Fugaji Iriki Tayari Chama)

    11 bonobos (Kindu Bolombo Makasi, Bonnie Jill Zuani Kumbuka Besede Pangi Monyama Ayebi)


    ARTIS = 9 chimpanzees (Vizuri Wakili Ajani, Margot Leen Sabra Quincy Amber Saphira)


    BEEKSE BERGEN = 8 gorillas (Uzuri M'Bewe Kidogo M'Kono Komale, Kisiwa Tuena N'Washi)

    24 chimpanzees (Socrates Dennis Gert-Jan Daan Wakili Wouter Sanne Stephan Julian, Anna-Clara Marlies Lenny Centa Linda Nadine Joke Michelle Marijke Pepa Fangina Martje Jozi Inosha Lily)


    BURGERS' ZOO = 11 gorillas (Bauwi Nakou Nukta N'Kato Madiba, N'Gayla Nimba Makoua N'Aika N'Hasa N'Irale)

    15 chimpanzees (Fons Jing Giambo Ghineau, Jimmie Moniek Roos Gaby Tesua Morami Moni Tushi Erika Geisha Raimee)


    DIERENRIJK = 7 chimpanzees (Dirk Pat, Carolina Sonja Jana Christa Kibibi)


    GAIAZOO = 9 gorillas (Makula Loango Mosi Ayo, Dalila Tamidol Sangha Zola Nala)


    OUWEHANDS = 7 orangutans (Bako Damai Sabbar, Anak Tjintah Jewel Daya)

    6 gorillas (Bitono Jah Bitanu Popa Baloo Imbizo)

    9 bonobos (Bondo Luebo, Lisala Kutu Kali Lingoye Omanga Maddie Visola)**



    * Robby has yet to arrive but is definitely coming to AAP

    **All of these bar Kali and Maddie have been confirmed as currently being held at Vallée des Singes whilst their enclosure at Ouwehands is being finished. When the island is ready they will move to Ouwehands. Kali and Maddie were originally part of the recommended individuals for Ouwehands but it remains to be seen if they will come to the offshow holding at Vallée des Singes or to Ouwehands from San Diego or not.
     
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    I forgot the Artis gorillas, so here is an updated version.


    UPDATED VERSION



    AAP = 46 chimpanzees (Freddy Toto Robby* Oscar Zeef Julio Bie Erik Laurens Tijs Ton Hiasl Mojo Sony Noah Joost Huub Buddy Fuad Fauzi Zorro Kenny Bongo Macario Juus Tomas Klaus Tanno Koko Unyoro, Mimmi Maja Phil Peggy-Sue Linda Rosi Ono Femma Marjo Sylvia Karlien Iris Willy Fiffy Regina Marria)


    AMERSFOORT = 9 chimpanzees (Mike Karibuna Kumi Wingu, Sjors Willy Bibi Chura Mahale)


    APENHEUL = 10 orangutans (Kevin Amos Kawan Baju, Silvia Sandy Wattana Binti Samboja Dayang)

    13 gorillas (Jambo Mapasa Wimbé M'Zungu Jabari, Mintha Mandji Nemsi Gyasi M'Fugaji Iriki Tayari Chama)

    11 bonobos (Kindu Bolombo Makasi, Bonnie Jill Zuani Kumbuka Besede Pangi Monyama Ayebi)


    ARTIS = 8 gorillas (Akili Bembosi Shambe Douli Shae, Shindy Dafina Binti)

    9 chimpanzees (Vizuri Wakili Ajani, Margot Leen Sabra Quincy Amber Saphira)


    BEEKSE BERGEN = 8 gorillas (Uzuri M'Bewe Kidogo M'Kono Komale, Kisiwa Tuena N'Washi)

    24 chimpanzees (Socrates Dennis Gert-Jan Daan Wakili Wouter Sanne Stephan Julian, Anna-Clara Marlies Lenny Centa Linda Nadine Joke Michelle Marijke Pepa Fangina Martje Jozi Inosha Lily)


    BURGERS' ZOO = 11 gorillas (Bauwi Nakou Nukta N'Kato Madiba, N'Gayla Nimba Makoua N'Aika N'Hasa N'Irale)

    15 chimpanzees (Fons Jing Giambo Ghineau, Jimmie Moniek Roos Gaby Tesua Morami Moni Tushi Erika Geisha Raimee)


    DIERENRIJK = 7 chimpanzees (Dirk Pat, Carolina Sonja Jana Christa Kibibi)


    GAIAZOO = 9 gorillas (Makula Loango Mosi Ayo, Dalila Tamidol Sangha Zola Nala)


    OUWEHANDS = 7 orangutans (Bako Damai Sabbar, Anak Tjintah Jewel Daya)

    6 gorillas (Bitono Jah Bitanu Popa Baloo Imbizo)

    9 bonobos (Bondo Luebo, Lisala Kutu Kali Lingoye Omanga Maddie Visola)**



    * Robby has yet to arrive but is definitely coming to AAP

    **All of these bar Kali and Maddie have been confirmed as currently being held at Vallée des Singes whilst their enclosure at Ouwehands is being finished. When the island is ready they will move to Ouwehands. Kali and Maddie were originally part of the recommended individuals for Ouwehands but it remains to be seen if they will come to the offshow holding at Vallée des Singes or to Ouwehands from San Diego or not.
     
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    Some updates to the AAP offshow chimp groupings; it has come to my attention that they are kept in multiple smaller groups. Those that I know for sure are as follows:

    Laurens
    Maja
    Ono

    Zeef
    Bie
    Erik
    Tijs

    Oscar
    Noah

    Fuad
    Huub
    Fauzi
    ?

    Phil
    Peggy-Sue

    I will try and find out what groups Joost, Ton, Kenny, Femma, Marjo, Sylvia and Karlien are in...I know for sure that there is a fourth male with Fuad's groups, but I don't know who it is out of Ton or Joost. I'm also not entirely sure if Kenny is with Oscar and Noah, or which other females live with Phil and Peggy-Sue. My guess would be that another two females live with these two, and that the remaining two live with whichever male out of Ton and Joost doesn't live with Fuad, Fauzi and Huub.
     
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    @ Shonen Jake:

    I am missing the Blijdorp gorillas in your list...
     
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    Right you are! Once again, an updated version...

    UPDATED UPDATED VERSION



    AAP = 46 chimpanzees (Freddy Toto Robby* Oscar Zeef Julio Bie Erik Laurens Tijs Ton Hiasl Mojo Sony Noah Joost Huub Buddy Fuad Fauzi Zorro Kenny Bongo Macario Juus Tomas Klaus Tanno Koko Unyoro, Mimmi Maja Phil Peggy-Sue Linda Rosi Ono Femma Marjo Sylvia Karlien Iris Willy Fiffy Regina Marria)


    AMERSFOORT = 9 chimpanzees (Mike Karibuna Kumi Wingu, Sjors Willy Bibi Chura Mahale)


    APENHEUL = 10 orangutans (Kevin Amos Kawan Baju, Silvia Sandy Wattana Binti Samboja Dayang)

    13 gorillas (Jambo Mapasa Wimbé M'Zungu Jabari, Mintha Mandji Nemsi Gyasi M'Fugaji Iriki Tayari Chama)

    11 bonobos (Kindu Bolombo Makasi, Bonnie Jill Zuani Kumbuka Besede Pangi Monyama Ayebi)


    ARTIS = 8 gorillas (Akili Bembosi Shambe Douli Shae, Shindy Dafina Binti)

    9 chimpanzees (Vizuri Wakili Ajani, Margot Leen Sabra Quincy Amber Saphira)


    BEEKSE BERGEN = 8 gorillas (Uzuri M'Bewe Kidogo M'Kono Komale, Kisiwa Tuena N'Washi)

    24 chimpanzees (Socrates Dennis Gert-Jan Daan Wakili Wouter Sanne Stephan Julian, Anna-Clara Marlies Lenny Centa Linda Nadine Joke Michelle Marijke Pepa Fangina Martje Jozi Inosha Lily)


    BLIJDORP = 9 gorillas (Bokito Nasibu Aybo Thabo, Annette Tamani Aya Ayba Tonka)


    BURGERS' ZOO = 11 gorillas (Bauwi Nakou Nukta N'Kato Madiba, N'Gayla Nimba Makoua N'Aika N'Hasa N'Irale)

    15 chimpanzees (Fons Jing Giambo Ghineau, Jimmie Moniek Roos Gaby Tesua Morami Moni Tushi Erika Geisha Raimee)


    DIERENRIJK = 7 chimpanzees (Dirk Pat, Carolina Sonja Jana Christa Kibibi)


    GAIAZOO = 9 gorillas (Makula Loango Mosi Ayo, Dalila Tamidol Sangha Zola Nala)


    OUWEHANDS = 7 orangutans (Bako Damai Sabbar, Anak Tjintah Jewel Daya)

    6 gorillas (Bitono Jah Bitanu Popa Baloo Imbizo)

    9 bonobos (Bondo Luebo, Lisala Kutu Kali Lingoye Omanga Maddie Visola)**



    * Robby has yet to arrive but is definitely coming to AAP

    **All of these bar Kali and Maddie have been confirmed as currently being held at Vallée des Singes whilst their enclosure at Ouwehands is being finished. When the island is ready they will move to Ouwehands. Kali and Maddie were originally part of the recommended individuals for Ouwehands but it remains to be seen if they will come to the offshow holding at Vallée des Singes or to Ouwehands from San Diego or not.
     
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    Finally, after a looooot of guess work, I can confirm the groupings of the 45 chimps at AAP. There are momentarily a total of 14 groups, although some are temporary.

    Oscar Noah

    Marria

    Buddy Unyoro

    Tanno

    Freddy Mojo

    Hiasl Koko, Mimmi Rosi

    Toto Julio, Linda Fiffy Regina

    Ton Kenny, Phil Peggy-Sue Femma

    Zorro Juus Tomas, Iris Willy

    Sony Macario

    Laurens, Maja Ono

    Zeef Bie Erik Tijs

    Huub Joost Fuad Fauzi, Marjo Sylvia Karlien

    Bongo Klaus

    The temporary groups are Tanno and Marria. Tanno is due to be moved into Hiasl's group, and Marria they haven't decided yet.

    Also Buddy and Macario's groups were together until recently. It is unclear whether they'll be reintegrated or not.
     
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    After four months of not posting, I thought an update was in order!!!


    Stichting AAP

    Chimpanzee = 45 (29.16) in 13 groups

    - Sony, Marria (1.1, both P.t.v)

    - Buddy Macario Unyoro (3.0, Unyoro P.t.v, all others non-sub)

    - Tanno (1.0, P.t.v)

    - Freddy Mojo (2.0, both non-sub)

    - Hiasl Koko, Mimmi Rosi (2.2, all non-sub)

    - Toto Julio, Linda Fiffy Regina (2.3, all non-sub)

    - Zorro Juus Tomas, Iris Willy (3.2, Juus + Willy non-sub, all others P.t.v)

    - Ton Kenny, Phil Peggy-Sue Femma (2.3, all P.t.v)

    - Joost Huub Fuad Fauzi, Marjo Sylvia Karlien (4.3, all P.t.v)

    - Bongo Klaus (2.0, both non-sub)

    - Laurens, Maja Ono (1.2, Maja non-sub, others P.t.v)

    - Zeef Bie Erik Tijs (4.0, all P.t.v)

    - Oscar Noah (2.0, Oscar P.t.v, Noah P.t.s)


    Amersfoort

    Chimpanzee = 9 (4.5)

    - Mike Karibuna Kumi Wingu, Sjors Willy Bibi Chura Mahale (Kumi non-sub, all others P.t.v)


    Apenheul

    Bornean orangutan = 11 (4.7), adult males x2 kept separately and females/offspring allowed to choose which male/if they want to be alone

    - Kevin Amos Kawan Baju, Silvia Sandy Wattana Binti Samboja Dayang ? (Kevin and Amos kept separately, others allowed to choose)

    Western lowland gorilla = 13 (5.8)

    - Jambo Mapasa Wimbé M'Zungu Jabari, Mintha Mandji Nemsi Gyasi M'Fugaji Iriki Tayari Chama

    Bonobo = 11 (3.8), kept in fission-fusion group, meaning the group may be split in two for a specified period of time and then reintegrated to one another to mix up social groupings

    - Kindu Bolombo Makasi, Bonnie Jill Zuani Kumbuka Besede Pangi Monyama Ayebi


    Artis

    Western lowland gorilla = 9 (5.4)

    - Akili Bembosi Shambe Douli Shae, Shindy Dafina Binti Yanga

    Chimpanzee = 9 (3.6)

    - Vizuri Wakili Ajani, Margot Leen Sabra Quincy Amber Saphira (Leen P.t.s, all others non-sub)


    Beekse Bergen

    Western lowland gorilla = 8 (5.3) in two groups

    - Uzuri M'Bewe Kidogo M'Kono (4.0)

    - Komale, Kisiwa Tuena N'Washi (1.3)

    Chimpanzee = 23 (9.14) in three groups

    - Dennis Gert-Jan Wakili Wouter Sam (5.0, Wouter + Sam non-sub, all others P.t.v)

    - Socrates Stephan, Marlies Linda Michelle Pepa Martje Jozi Inosha (2.7, all P.t.v)

    - Daan Julian, Anna-Clara Lenny Centa Nadine Joke Marijke Lily (2.7, all P.t.v)


    Blijdorp

    Western lowland gorilla = 9 (4.5)

    - Bokito Nasibu Aybo Thabo, Annette Tamani Aya Ayba Tonka


    Burgers' Zoo

    Western lowland gorilla = 11 (5.6)

    - Bauwi Nakou Nukta N'Kato Madiba, N'Gayla Nimba Makoua N'Aika N'Hasa N'Irale

    Chimpanzee = 15 (4.11), introductions taking place so group separated into three groups at the moment, groups regularly swap individuals so unsure of sub group structures

    - Fons Jing Giambo Ghineau, Jimmie Moniek Roos Gaby Tesua Morami Moni Tushi Erika Geisha Raimee (Fons + Jimmie + Roos + Gaby + Tesua + Tushi + Raimee P.t.v, all others non-sub)


    Dierenrijk

    Chimpanzee = 7 (2.5)

    - Dirk Pat, Carolina Sonja Jana Christa Kibibi (all P.t.v)


    GaiaZoo

    Western lowland gorilla = 9 (4.5)

    - Makula Loango Mosi Ayo, Dalila Tamidol Sangha Zola Nala


    Ouwehands

    Bornean orangutan = 7 (3.4) 1x adult male and 1x subadult male kept separate, females/offspring put with either male or alone

    - Bako Jingga Sabbar, Anak Tjintah Jewel Daya (Bako and Jingga kept separate, others either put with one of them or alone)

    Western lowland gorilla = 6 (6.0)

    - Bitono Jah Bitanu Popa Baloo Imbizo


    KEY

    Non-sub = subspecies hybrid/non-subspecific, or untested subspecies
    P.t.v = western chimpanzee
    P.t.s = eastern chimpanzee


    NOTES: Subspecies testing is still in progress/being refined, so subspecies may change

    Ouwehands should receive 2.7 bonobos in 2018 (males Bondo and Luebo and females Lisala, Kutu, Lingoye, Omanga and Visola from Vallee des Singes, females Kali and Maddie from San Diego)
     
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