For those of you who miss the white lion cubs there are some pictures of the boys on Parc Safari's facebook page. Their manes are really coming in.
The cheetah swap with Parc Safari has benefited both zoos. Not only did Toronto pick up Laini who has given Toronto 5 cubs but Toronto's Akeelah has just given birth to two male cubs via c section. They are being hand reared. No word on whether the swap has benefitted Cleo as well. Spotted: The first two cheetah cubs ever born in Quebec
Here is some info about two Sumatran Tiger cubs born in Toronto in 2006. I extracted it from a new thread about the Sumatran Tigers currently in Japan Zoos. Ueno Zoo, Tokyo Indah(f) Born: June 28th 2006 at Toronto, Canada Mother: Brytne(f) Father: Rengat(m) Littermate: Kali(f) at Yokohama. Full siblings: Chelsea(f) Atlanta, Leanne(Skylar)(f) San Francisco and Kougra(m)(deceased). Yokohama Zoorasia, Yokohama Kali(f) Born: June 28th 2006 at Toronto, Canada Littermate: Indah(f) Ueno, Japan Parents: Refer to Indah’s description. Siblings: Refer to Indah’s description. Indah : beautiful in Indonesian Kali : river in Indonesian Note: Named by fans vote at Toronto
Offspring are mentioned for others on the list, so either there are none , or it is unknown. The list is thorough so I would say none. This is the thread: Sumatran Tigers in Japan
Thanks Mr Wrinkly. I have a friend who loves those to dearly and would have loved to know if any cubs had been born to them. Pity it seems neither has reproduced. They were sent there to help diversify Japan's genetics yet it seems it didn't work. At eleven there is still time but chances are slim.
I found these two bits of info about two others of Brytne's offspring in about three minutes, so your friend probably has this and more already: 7/11 a post by Zoogoer2000 on an Atlanta thread: I'm unsure on where Kavi was born, but Chelsea was born to Brytne and Rengat (Rengat passed away last year) at the Toronto Zoo in July 2003. She then moved to the Dallas Zoo sometime in 2005 along with her siblings "Kougra" and "Skylar" (Kougra has since passed away at Dallas Zoo, and Skylar was renamed "Leanne". She moved to the San Francisco Zoo in 2007 and gave birth to triplet cubs in March of 2008) and then to Zoo Atlanta in 2007 to be bred with Kavi, as they did this past summer. 5/17 an article about a new partner for Chelsea: New Male Sumatran Tiger Introduced to Zoo Atlanta - WLTZ
Oh I'm up to date on all of Brytne and Regnat's offspring that stayed in the AZA. They are easier to track given my usual source of info. It's the ones who leave the AZA I have trouble keeping track of.
Snow leopard, Pasha (son of Tiga and Kota), has had his first cub which is female in Omaha. Kota's line is doing well this year with a new son and daughter and now granddaughter. It’s a girl! Endangered snow leopard born at Omaha zoo
Cheetah, Cleo, who now resides at Parc Safari has welcomed two male cubs July 13. The cheetah swap between Toronto and Parc Safari has produced 9 cubs in 8 months. Great move.
Lots of breeding is expected from former and Toronto owned gorillas in the coming year. Woodland Park - Amanda will move back into a retiree troop with Vip and Jumoke. Guess she an her former silverback who's name escapes me must not be getting along because he will be maintained alone. She and Vip get along well since they had three daughters. Cincinnati - Jomo will breed with Asha Little Rock - Sekani and Catherine will breed with Kivu. Catherine will undergo reproductive surgery to potentially make it possible for her to breed. This would be fantastic news since she it the only offspring of Caroline and if she doesn't breed that bloodline will die. Dallas - Subira will breed with Megan and Hope following Hopes full integration into the troop. This one has taken some time as the troop he is in has been rearranged twice and he did come close to death soon after moving to Dallas. Hope moved towards the start of the year so hopefully group stabilization has happened and the babies will start to arrive. Milwaukee - Shalia is still rearing Suliaman. Bronx - Ntondo (son of Julia) is medically unable to breed at this time. I don't know what that's in reference to. Once his medical condition improves though they expect to recommend breeding for him. Sedgewick - Barika (daughter of Julia) is still rearing Akila Gladys Porter - Mbundi (son of Tabitha, grandson of Barney and Josephine) no longer will be breeding at this time. There are some medical issues going on with the troops youngest member Tracy James so while they focus on him they are not to breed. Granby - Jawara (son of Julia) and Zwalani (son of Tabitha, grandson of Barney and Josephine) will remain bachelors and be joined by Sadiki and Nassir to hopefully form a single group. On a side note all Toronto owned bachelors including Bakari and Mosi will remain in their bachelor troops. Calgary - Zuri and Ywande will be joined by new silverback Jasiri from Atlanta but no breeding for either yet. He needs to arrive and settle first. Plus he will be breeding with the younger Dossi first. After that who knows. Might depend on the gender of that baby whether Zuri breeds again or Ywande is brought on as a breeding partner. She's still a little young. There are about 5 more infants due from Toronto descendants but none of these are owned gorillas.
Former species at the zoo... Mara Grizzled grey tree kangaroo Wallaroo Tasmanian Devil Kowari Eastern Quoll Woolly Opossum Grey-headed flying fox Indian fruit bat Brush-tailed porcupine Tamandua Slow Loris Potto Senegal Galago Guereza Colobus Vervet Monkey Debrazza's Guenon Patas monkey Hamadryas baboon Gelada baboon Japanese Macaque Wisent Liberian mongoose Cusimanse European Genet Zorilla Hog-nosed badger Fennec Fox Raccoon Dog Bat-eared Fox Bobcat Chinese Leopard Aardvark South American Tapir Damara zebra Grant's zebra Pronghorn Chinese Water Deer Siberian Roe Deer Pere David's deer Barasingha White-tailed Deer Mule Deer Water Buffalo Congo Buffalo Nilgai Sitatunga Nyala Bongo Springbok Gemsbok Nubian Ibex Dall's Sheep Desert Hamster Chimpanzee Black Rhino Scheltopusik Woodland Caribou Leadbeater's Possum Golden Monkey (visiting) Koala (visiting) Common Crow Mandrill Coyote Black Bear Hyacinth Macaw Bengal Tiger Musk Ox Impala Thomson's Gazelle South African Fur Seal African Elephants African Wild Dogs Stingrays Nurse Shark Caracal Black Duikers Greater Flamingos Ocelots Madagascar Button Quails Demoiselle Cranes Fiji Banded Iguana Eastern Grey Kangaroos Parma Wallaby squirrel monkeys owl squirrel monkeys Scimitar Horned Oryx Kea Thick billed parrot Bearded Barbets Toco Toucans Greater Bushbabies Lesser Bushbabies Ruffled lemurs Black Lemurs Brown Lemurs Pygmy Loris King Vulture Greater Rhea Rock Hyrax White Nosed Coati Kinkajou Asian Clawed Otter Ringtails Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig Wolverines Great White Pelican Pink Backed Pelican Singing Dog Malayan Tapir Emu Brazilian Agouti Prevost Squirrel North American Porcupine Burrowing Owl Black necked swan Goitered gazelle Dhole Sable Antelope Gaur Giant Panda (visiting) For those counting 121 species that I can account for but I'm certain there are more. And that I can account for another 17 species are on phase out without me counting potential losses due to the master plan. It would be fantastic to get even a small portion of the ones that would be reasonable to get back. I'm still a huge fan of giving me back wild dogs and aardvarks. Even those too would delight me endlessly.
Thanks for this thread! It's been 6 or 7 years since I last went to toronto zoo (I dated a canadian for several years and we made frequent trips to the zoo), and it's amazing how many species are no longer there in just that short time span.
We had such a great primate diversity compared to now! And yes be prepared for this list to get a whole lot bigger...
Wasn't purely budget cuts, the whole elephant thing became a PR nightmare as well all know. Honestly if the elephants weren't gonna get a massive upgrade i'm glad they went.
The elephant situation is a vastly complicated one which I have largely tried to block out to prevent cursing and fits of anger. Go back to when the decision was made in the threads to get a fuller picture of it if you want but the general gist had nothing to do with the activists to start with. In fact they only became a real pain in the rump once the decision was made. The keepers made an welfare decision for the girls as well as the whole zoo. We cant escape the fact Canada is cold and icy. The exhibit was also undersized for regulations that were just about to come into effect. A brand new state of the art winterized facility was needed. The projected cost for the project was going to be at that time I think $20 million and the exhibit was going to need to run from the current exhibit, taking the hippo exhibit, the entire back stretch of unused space in the savanna right to the top of the domain hill with a massive new winter barn and requiring a massive upgrade to the current barn to house bulls. Reality was that was a massive investment for the zoo to make in a single species, that still couldn't be out most of the winter and that estimate for all that work was likely unrealistic. Added to that was the fact that were also need rules about herd composition that were about to come into effect. A herd needs to consist of at least three elephants and we had three older girls. A new younger herd would have been needed. Where were we going to get that from? Bulls maybe but breeding age females. Who was going to give up their breeding age females? Import them from Africa? Yeah the activists would have liked that. The staff decided on their own after the estimate came in that it would be better to end the program for the health of the girls, to ensure they were not in violation of new AZA regulations (not that it mattered we still got the boot over the elephants just for a different reason relating to them) and for the good of the zoo as a whole. Many of the projects that have been done for the good of other species would not have happened if all the money had gone to the elephants. Once the decision was made then it became the nightmare it did. Wow I'm impressed I got that all out without flying into a mini rage... for that joy look back at the time the elephants left. I found lots of creative ways to bash a certain ex game show host who's name I wish never to mention again, I still use the same colourful names I used back then to refer to him if forced. Of course I have a list for that! I just haven't added species that will be very likely lost due to the master plan. Olive Baboon Barbary Ape Lion Tailed Macaque Mouflon (that's why only the males are in the drive through) Chamois Barbary Sheep Tur (though they keep breeding them for some stupid reason) Tahr Echidna Llama Reindeer Common Marmoset (though if breeding has begun again that might have changed) Bennett’s wallaby Swamp Wallaby Javan Whistling Duck Shelduck Little Pied Cormorant And although I have heard nothing about it I would guess if other individuals are added these will go too. White backed vulture Nile Soft Shelled Turtle West African Dwarf Crocodile (its an AZA phase out but some are breeding hard to say) White breasted Cormorants African Spotted Necked Otter (Fred is ancient and I think Lila is related to a lot of the possible breeders. Just don't see them importing new stock when they cannot breed them) White handed Gibbon (a chance when they go they wont be replaced or another species will move in with the orangs) Caiman (probably replaced with an SSP variety) Spider Monkey (very realistic since the plan is for the jaguars to take over the exhibit) Great Hornbill (They are both old and the empty exhibit could result in moving the babirusa or Komodos)
I wasn't to upset about the baboon phase out until TZFan told us they were the only olives in N America. Never would have thought. What do other zoos mostly keep? Chacma?
