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Historical Thylacine Photos&Films

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  1. thylacine1936

    thylacine1936 Active Member

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    Firsty share the potential thylacine photos that you have,some of the would probably be stills from the films. Also sorry if this post is the wrong forum Im still learning.
    So for people that don't know there are 117 Thylacine photos and 13 Thylacine films(2 of them are considered lost). 106 of the photos are of living thylacines and were taken at zoos and manageries.The other 11 are of wild dead thylacines.There are for sure more undiscovered thylacine photos out there,probably in private collections.
    These are the list of zoos that we have photos from:
    1. Beaumaris Zoo,SandyBay site,31 photos
    2.Beaumaris Zoo,Queen's Domain site,35 photos
    3.Melbourne Zoo,2 photos
    4.Taronga Zoo,1 photo
    5.Moore Park Zoo,2 photos
    6.London Zoo,22 photos
    7.Berlin Zoo,1 photo
    8.Bronx Zoo,3 photos
    9.National Zoo,5 photos
    10.Tasmanian Manageries,4 photos
    11.Dead thylacines,11 photos
     
  2. thylacine1936

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    For today we have the three Bronx Zoo photos.The photos were taken in 1903 and all of them are showing the same individual,a male. This thylacine was the first that exhibited at the zoo and his name was ''Dick''.
     

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    The first makes them look small.
     
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    FBBird Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    They really weren’t a big animal
     
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    This was still a young male, so he will have been a bit smaller anyway. Thylacines were 100 to 130 cm (39 to 51 in) long (without tail) and 60 cm (24 in) tall, which made him bigger than a dog, but still not a 'Tasmanian tiger';), as he is sometimes called.
     
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    So after a long time I decided to post something here.
    This photo is the oldest known Thylacine photo. Was taken by Frank Haes in the summer of 1864 in London Zoo. The Thylacine in the photo is a young male that arrived in the zoo in 1862 with his mother, he died in 1865. In order to take this photo they had to chace the thylacine around so he can calm down because of the humans' presence in the enclosure, after chasing it for a while the thylacine finally sat down in his waterbowl and they manage to get this photo.
     

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  7. Tim May

    Tim May Well-Known Member 15+ year member Premium Member

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    I think that these two thylacines, mother and son, arrived at London Zoo in 1863, not 1862. (To be precise, they arrived at the zoo on 2nd May 1863.)
     
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    yes my bad I always forget the dates
     
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    Here are possibly the only known photos of London Zoo's last Thylacine, a female. Both were taken in North Mammal House around 1926-1930. She arrived in the Zoo in 1926 with another female which sadly died. She lived in the zoo for 5 years until August of 1931. If there are other photos of her let me know
     

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    Don't think I've ever seen that first one before!
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Don't think they are both of the last female. The first(lefthand side one) is a different background to the old North Mammal House- probably much earlier specimen and different location in the zoo. The 2nd shot is the last female in NMH.
     
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    the first photo is from the Illustrated London News published in 1926, the photo is probably edited from the newspaper, the stripe pattern fits with the second photo.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Which date? I couldn't find the issue.
     
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    Its in Illustrated London News, Saturday March 27th 1926, page 24
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    The coat is very different if its the same animal. It could have been photo'd indoors which might explain the different background. But I think I've seen elsewhere its suggested its a different/earlier animal. I can't say whether the stripes are identical as not clear enough in 2nd photo.
     
  16. Tim May

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    London Zoo's last thylacine was at the zoo from 26th January 1926 until its death on 9th August 1931. I've looked at the five London Zoo guidebooks that were published during this time period i.e. the guides for 1926, 1928, 1929, 1930 and 1931 (no guide was published in 1927).

    Each of these guides includes a photograph, taken by David Seth-Smith, depicting a thylacine in the North Mammal House. There are three separate photos in all, as the guides for 1930 and 1931 duplicate the photo in the 1926 guide. These three photos are different to the two photos attached to your post.

    Of course it's not impossible that the guidebook reproduced some photos of earlier zoo thylacines but I think it's more likely that the guidebook used photographs of the thylacine currently living at the zoo.
    Only one thylacine arrived at the zoo in 1936; other female thylacine died at sea during the voyage.
     
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    she didnt died during the voyage,the ship stuck outside of the dock for 6 months and during this period the one thylacine died
     
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    can you post the photos from the guides?
     
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    Indeed; I'm aware of that. The point I was making was that the other thylacine didn't arrive at the zoo; she died on board the ship.
    Sorry no. The photographer died in 1963 so his photos are still in copyright.
     
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    We look forward to seeing them in 2033. :p