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  1. robert everett

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    Does anyone know why London zoo do not breed there giraffes? Is it a space or genetic issue?
     
  2. pipaluk

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    Because all 3 are female.
     
  3. robert everett

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    I’m sure if they wanted to they could find a male giraffe
     
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    They are listed as no specific sub species on the inventory, so they wouldn't be bred from.
     
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  5. Tim May

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    The Giraffe House, which dates from 1837, does not have remote-controlled doors. The doors, which let the giraffes pass between their indoor accommodation and the outside enclosure, have to be opened and closed manually.

    The ZSL decided sometime ago that, without automatic doors that could be operated remotely, the building would no longer be used for a bull giraffe.
     
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    2 of the 3 females (Molly-born 2006 & Margaret-born 2008) were born at Chester Zoo. Their mothers Kelly & Faye were born in Ireland (Belfast i believe) and were found afterwards to be hybrids hence why Molly & Margaret were moved.
     
  7. monster

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    why would you need automatic doors to have a bull giraffe?
     
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    For safety reasons
     
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    Chester house a bull giraffe and they have manual gates
     
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    So did London Zoo for more than one and a half centuries....
     
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    Yes but they don't have to be in the same space as him to operate the gates,any way they will not have manual gates when the new house is built!
     
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    That answers a long-standing question for me...
     
  13. monster

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    now I may be wrong but I can't think of any other zoo which feels that way. not sure why you would consider a bull giraffe any more dangerous than a cow....

    did one of the keepers tell you that Tim May?
     
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    As London Zoo holds hybrid giraffes, but does not breed them, it does not need a male. I remember Hillary, which was very obviously a male.
     
  15. FunkyGibbon

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    Maybe someone who knows a lot more about giraffes than will assure us that they are so placid there is no risk, but try the following thought experiments:

    You have to stand behind a bull ungulate and stick a hot pin into its buttock. Will you choose a cow or a giraffe to kick you in the shin or stomach?

    Now do the same thing standing next to the head of said ungulate. Whose neck would you rather be sideswiped with?
     
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  16. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

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    I read the post as meaning "why is a bull giraffe any more dangerous than a cow giraffe" rather than an actual cow.
     
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    Yes that's my point. and why would you stick a hot pin in one?
     
  18. Chlidonias

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    *shrugs* Gotta stick it somewhere I guess.
     
  19. FunkyGibbon

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    :D That does make more sense.
     
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    Aside from the obvious questions about a bull, how many giraffe could London hold ? Are they at maximum capacity with 3 or could they increase their females ?