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  1. Canihelpyou?

    Canihelpyou? Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    What are some great animals native to mangroves that will make a great addition to a mangrove exhibit? Here are some examples:
    - Dough crab
    - Dusky leaf monkey
    - Manatee
    - Sailfin dragon
    - Mudskipper

    More animals are more then welcome :)
     
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    Kakapo Well-Known Member

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    What is a "dough crab"?

    Anyway, a mangrove exhibit is not a mangrove exhibit without mudskippers and fiddler crabs. These two are the essentials of any mangrove.

    Additionally, a butterfly mud puddle zone would be great, with loads of big pierids and swallowtails. Most mangrove inhabitats are just adaptable species not specific to mangroves: small birds and arboreal mammals for the land side, and fishes and crocs from the sea side...
     
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    TZDugong Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    I’m not sure if this is feasible or not, but Proboscis Monkeys would be a popular animal.
     
  4. Canihelpyou?

    Canihelpyou? Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Sorry i meant horseshoe crab
     
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    tetrapod Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Surely archerfish are also included as a must!
     
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    For a South American themed mangrove Four-eyed fish (Anableps) would be good. Other brackish water fish would include Sailfin Molly and some other livebearers, Green and Orange Chromides from around the Indian ocean would be good as well.
     
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    White-collared Kingfisher
     
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    For a Floridian mangrove, some junnevile Queen Angelfish would be great.
     
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    Saltwater Crocodile (though not multi species obviously)
    Wood Stork
    Reddish Egret
    Diamondback Terrapin
    Crab-eating Macaque
     
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    Mangrove monitor and mangrove snake
     
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    The most spectacular species I've seen in mangroves were blacktip sharks, so these would be great in a mangrove exhibit.

    Fiddler crabs are almost a must and depending of the theme (New World or Old World so are mudskippers or four-eyed fish.

    Raccoons and bulldog bats would be nice for a Central American themed exhibit, next to manatees, crocodiles and water birds like roseate spoonbills.
     
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    Swampy Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    don't forget the mangroves themselves; not really a proper mangrove exhibit without discussing the wondrous biology of the actual trees!
     
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    Ofcourse! The plants are the most important part!
     
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    LARTIS Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    There are many species living in the mangroves forests around the world

    If you are planning an exhibits/exhibitions you can choose from different presentation styles

    Do you wanna display the habitat as ecosystem or do you want sgow one spefic place

    The different housing styles include aquariums paludariums terrariums and aviarie

    Most of the Aquariums have paludariums, half water half air with origanl real trees or fake trees for archer and four eyed fish, mudskippers and crabs

    Some Birdparks and zoos have walk trought aviaries with fishes in little tied ponds visible from.above and sometimes through glass windows from the side

    Than there walkable mangroves gouses that are sadly quiet rare like the one in arnhem

    A short overview
    mammals
    some monkey species like proboscis monkey, grivets, blue monkeys, longtailed macaque and white shoulder capuchins
    otter and mangoose
    pig and deer species as well
    tigers and other smaller cat species

    birds
    storks heron waddy birds ibis spoonbill and many singing birds call the mangroves their home like starlings tailor birds silver eyes and munias

    reptiles
    crocodiles geckos lizards agamas dailfin dragon and many many monitors species
    land and water turtle species
    snakes

    amphibian
    only freshwater parts

    fish
    fresh brackish and saltwater

    invertebrates
    especially crustaceans show a big spectrum from different types of of crabs land and water species (some quiet big and a lot of smaller ones), crayfish and lobster, hermit crabs, shrimp

    sorry if this is not into the deep

    but if you would have a special idea it would have more details
     
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    Canihelpyou? Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Thank you! These are some nice species. And yes i was going for a green house like the one in Arnhem. Im not a big fan of it, because i see some missed oppurunities.
     
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    What is wrong then according to you then? Until now I have heard basically only positive reactions on it.
     
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    Really? Ive heard quite Some negative things. In all honestly, its a great exhibit. Its really Nice, but i dont like the South America theme. My personal opinion is that Asian mangroves have "better" animals. I missed the mudskippers, archerfish and other animals Shown in the old mangrove. It feels very empty. And ofcourse a bunch of other things. Its not bad by far, but i would like it more different.
     
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    The Florida Aquarium has a Florida mangrove ecosystem-based area in their aviary, so looking at the species housed there could help for inspiration, though you seem to be going more for Asian mangroves.
     
  19. LARTIS

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    Ihave to agree on @Canihelpyou? the reactions were not only good

    I guess it depends on the vistors preferences, but for someone like me, who prefers educational displays and specific exhibits/exhibitions over the classy mainstream interests the closing of the old house was a loss

    it had avery nice design, when one thinks of its history as test house for bush and therefoewas not originally planned as mangrove house

    There were more educational boards in the old one as well

    and the list of species included more rare species that were presented in a way like no other facility had

    Several species hatched very succesfull that are gone by now

    In general the old house felt more like a true mangrove forest with better species

    The first thought I had was they copied the butterfly house from Blijdorp, of which I wasn't a fan either since round shapes are normally avoid (they may irritate the species) and most often a waste of space, but somehow the original went out to better than expected but the inspired one did not that well

    From the view point of species it is not sustainable to keep species that are not reguarly breed in captivity and are therefor of wild origin

    The Arnhem mangrove house is not bad at all but compared to the old house which set standards (especially from the viewpoint of a zoo enthusiast, who paid a lot of time studying zoological architectural and educational systems) the house feels like a down grading
     
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    Canihelpyou? Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Couldnt agree more.