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  1. Jungle Man

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    The purpose of this thread is to list the current population of clouded leopards in North American zoos,Discuss about them and News of them.

    There are currently 36.52 clouded leopads in captivity around North America ( probably more) as of February 2020.

    The list of sources is as follow:
    Clouded Leopards
    Clouded Leopard | San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants
    Clouded leopards at Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium Asian Forest Sanctuary
    Cute emergency: Central Florida says bye-bye to its clouded leopard cub
    Pittsburgh Zoo announces names of clouded leopard cubs
    OKC ZOO WELCOMES CLOUDED LEOPARD CUBS TO CAT FOREST HABITAT
    News-Pittsburgh-Zoo-Introduces-New-Clouded-Leopard-Cub | Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium
    Meet Kali the Clouded Leopard from Wildlife World Zoo
    First Ever Clouded Leopard Cubs Debut at the Smithsonian's National Zoo

    The institutions are organized by country, then state and then city.

    Smithsonian`s National Zoo - Washington,DC,USA
    1.0 Paitoon (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Jillian (Niran x Ron) 2019-3-24
    0.1 Mook 2002-00-00

    San Diego Zoo - San Diego,California,USA
    1.0 Haui-San 2012-8-25
    0.1 Kya 00-00-00
    0.1 Ganda 00.00.00

    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium - Tacoma,Washington,USA
    0.1 Orchid (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Banyan (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Tien (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2013-5-1
    0.1 Jao Ying 2007-5-30
    1.0 Nah Fun 2009-7-15
    0.1 Sang Dao 2015-5-22
    0.1 Chai Li 2009-7-12
    1.0 Chee Wit (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2010-2-14

    Little Rock Zoo - Little Rock,Arkansas,USA
    1.0 Rama 00-00-00
    0.1 Suri 00-00-00

    Central Florida Zoo & Botanical Gardens -Orlando,Florida,USA
    1.0 Cirrus 00-00-00
    0.1 Nimbus 00-00-00

    Naples Zoo -Naples,Florida,USA
    1.0 Masala (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    0.1 Tika 00-00-00
    0.1 Jean (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22
    0.1 Janet (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22

    Exotic Feline Breeding Compound - Rosamond,California,USA
    0.1 Kyoke 2011-3-12

    ZooTampa at Lowry Park -Tampa,Florida,USA
    1.0 Yim 00-00-00
    0.1 Malee 00-00-00
    1.0 Shigu (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29
    0.1 Aiya (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29

    Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium - Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,USA
    1.0 Pi (Lisu x Taji) 2014-3-4
    0.1 Saya 2014-4-10
    1.0 Gale (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27
    1.0 Lynn (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27

    Oklahoma City Zoo - Oklahoma City,Oklahoma,USA
    1.0 JD (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Rukai (Saya x Pi) 2019-3-14

    Zoo Miami - Miami,Florida,USA
    0.1 Serai (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2011-5-13
    1.0 Rajasi 2011-00-00

    Brookfield Zoo -Chicago,Illinois,USA
    1.0 Dongwa 00-00-00
    0.1 Sky 00-00-00

    Gulf Breeze Zoo -Gulf Breeze,Florida,USA
    1.0 Harry 00-00-00
    0.1 Ping 00-00-00

    ZooAtlanta -Atlanta,Georgia,USA
    0.1 Suhana (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9

    Mesker Park Zoo- Evansville,Indiana,USA
    0.1 Miri 00-00-00

    Cincinnati Zoo -Cincinnati,Ohio,USA
    0.1 Sheegwa 00-00-00

    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium -Columbus,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Beau 00-00-00
    0.1 Stassi 00-00-00

    Houston Zoo -Houston,Texas,USA
    1.0 Tarak
    0.1 Suksn (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2012-3-6
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12

    Ellen Trout Zoo -Lufkin,Texas,USA
    1.0 Indy 00-00-00
    0.1 Saffron (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    1.0 Jye (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27
    0.1 Raurava (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27

    Cleveland´s Metroparks Zoo -Cleveland,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Ryker 00-00-00

    Nashville Zoo -Nashville,Tennessee,USA
    1.0 Kuso 2017-3-11
    0.1 River 00-00-00
    0.1 Niran (Tula x Hannibal) 2017-3-1 ( first clouded leopard cub to be born by AI)
    1.0 Ron 00-00-00
    0.1 Lom Choy 00-00-00
    1.0 Luk (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-00-00
    0.1 Tula 00-00-00
    1.0 Arun 00-00-00
    0.1 Jing Jai 00-00-00
    0.1 Baylie (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-6-9
    0.1 Kali (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2

    Tanganyika Wildlife Park -Wichita,Kansas,USA
    0.1 Moana 00-00-00
    0.1 Belle 00-00-00
    0.1 Aurora 00-00-00
    0.1 Mulan 00-00-00
    1.0 Kapok (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Elliot 00-00-00
    0.1 Maxie 00-00-00
    1.0 Teak (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    0.1 Piper 00-00-00
    0.1 Crystal 00-00-00
    0.1 Kansas 00-00-00

    Smithsonian´s Conservation Biology Institute -Front Royal,Virginia,USA
    0.1 Jao Chu 00-00-00
    1.0 Hannibal 00-00-00
    0.1 Sita (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-5-30
    1.0 Ta Moon (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24
    1.0 Sa Ming (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24

    Denver Zoo -Denver,Colorado,USA
    0.1 Lisu 2011-00-00
    1.0 Taji (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2011-6-14
    0.1 Maddie 00-00-00
    0.1 Tenchi 00-00-00

    Wildlife World Zoo,Aquarium & Safari Park -Phoenix,Arizona,USA
    0.1 Kali 00-00-00

    Toronto Zoo -Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    1.0 Mingma (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2
    0.1 Pavarti (Lom Choy x Luk) 2013-4-30

    Safari Niagara -Fort Erie,Ontario,Canada
    0.1 Levy (Mingma x Pavarti) 2017-5-13

    PD: If you know any information about them or about the existence of more clouded leopards in north america not listed here please tell me to post it. If I have any mistake please correct me.
     
  2. Arizona Docent

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    1.1 Heritage Park Zoo, Prescott, Arizona
    (number/gender ?) R Triple J Wildlife Ranch, Eager, Arizona
    1.1 Project Survival's Cat Haven, Dunlap, California

    also Wildlife World is in Litchfield Park, not Phoenix
     
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    Since when does Columbus have Clouded Leopards? Are they bts?

    Timbavati Wildlife Park has Clouded Leopards but I don't know how many.
     
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    Columbus has them since last year,they are orphan siblings from another facility and they are handraising them.
     
  5. Jungle Man

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    At the Heritage Park Zoo,they are both female named Suree and Malee born in ZooMiami 2015-3-9.

    I didn't found out anything about the clouded leopards at R Lazy JJJ Ranch.


    I didn't found out anything about the clouded leopards here. Thanks to @Arizona Docent we will list here a pair.
    Thanks for the help Arizona Docent!!
     
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    I just looked at the Cat Haven website, which they completely redid a couple months ago (so it should be updated), but their list of "our cats" does not include clouded leopard which is odd. I know for sure they got a very young male female pair about three years ago? I assume they are from Tanganyika. Not sure if they are not listed because they are not visible on tour or because they sent them away (which seems very unlike them).

    R Lazy J Ranch is a new Arizona zoo that I just found out about through a tourist magazine. It had a photo of a clouded leopard but no description and their website does not list them either. So I went through their Facebook page and had to scroll back quite a ways before I found a post with a photo of a clouded leopard (singular) and a post stating we built a new enclosure for our clouded leopards (plural). So it seems they have at least two but as I said I don't know the gender (or even if it is two).
     
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    Thanks for the clarification,Arizona Docent. I should update the list now.
     
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    The purpose of this thread is to list the current population of clouded leopards in North American zoos,Discuss about them and News of them.

    There are currently 36.52 clouded leopads in captivity around North America ( probably more) as of February 2020.

    The list of sources is as follow:
    Clouded Leopards
    Clouded Leopard | San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants
    Clouded leopards at Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium Asian Forest Sanctuary
    Cute emergency: Central Florida says bye-bye to its clouded leopard cub
    Pittsburgh Zoo announces names of clouded leopard cubs
    OKC ZOO WELCOMES CLOUDED LEOPARD CUBS TO CAT FOREST HABITAT
    News-Pittsburgh-Zoo-Introduces-New-Clouded-Leopard-Cub | Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium
    Meet Kali the Clouded Leopard from Wildlife World Zoo
    First Ever Clouded Leopard Cubs Debut at the Smithsonian's National Zoo

    The institutions are organized by country, then state and then city.

    Smithsonian`s National Zoo - Washington,DC,USA
    1.0 Paitoon (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Jillian (Niran x Ron) 2019-3-24
    0.1 Mook 2002-00-00

    San Diego Zoo - San Diego,California,USA
    1.0 Haui-San 2012-8-25
    0.1 Kya 00-00-00
    0.1 Ganda 00.00.00

    Point Defiance Zoo & Aquarium - Tacoma,Washington,USA
    0.1 Orchid (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Banyan (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Tien (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2013-5-1
    0.1 Jao Ying 2007-5-30
    1.0 Nah Fun 2009-7-15
    0.1 Sang Dao 2015-5-22
    0.1 Chai Li 2009-7-12
    1.0 Chee Wit (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2010-2-14

    Little Rock Zoo - Little Rock,Arkansas,USA
    1.0 Rama 00-00-00
    0.1 Suri 00-00-00

    Central Florida Zoo & Botanical Gardens -Orlando,Florida,USA
    1.0 Cirrus 00-00-00
    0.1 Nimbus 00-00-00

    Naples Zoo -Naples,Florida,USA
    1.0 Masala (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    0.1 Tika 00-00-00
    0.1 Jean (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22
    0.1 Janet (Tika x Masala) 2019-2-22

    Exotic Feline Breeding Compound - Rosamond,California,USA
    0.1 Kyoke 2011-3-12

    ZooTampa at Lowry Park -Tampa,Florida,USA
    1.0 Yim 00-00-00
    0.1 Malee 00-00-00
    1.0 Shigu (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29
    0.1 Aiya (Yim x Malee) 2016-2-29

    Pittsburgh Zoo & PPG Aquarium - Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,USA
    1.0 Pi (Lisu x Taji) 2014-3-4
    0.1 Saya 2014-4-10
    1.0 Gale (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27
    1.0 Lynn (Saya x Pi) 2019-11-27

    Oklahoma City Zoo - Oklahoma City,Oklahoma,USA
    1.0 JD (River x Kuso) 2019-4-29
    0.1 Rukai (Saya x Pi) 2019-3-14

    Zoo Miami - Miami,Florida,USA
    0.1 Serai (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2011-5-13
    1.0 Rajasi 2011-00-00

    Brookfield Zoo -Chicago,Illinois,USA
    1.0 Dongwa 00-00-00
    0.1 Sky 00-00-00

    Gulf Breeze Zoo -Gulf Breeze,Florida,USA
    1.0 Harry 00-00-00
    0.1 Ping 00-00-00

    ZooAtlanta -Atlanta,Georgia,USA
    0.1 Suhana (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9

    Mesker Park Zoo- Evansville,Indiana,USA
    0.1 Miri 00-00-00

    Cincinnati Zoo -Cincinnati,Ohio,USA
    0.1 Sheegwa 00-00-00

    Columbus Zoo & Aquarium -Columbus,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Beau 00-00-00
    0.1 Stassi 00-00-00

    Houston Zoo -Houston,Texas,USA
    1.0 Tarak
    0.1 Suksn (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2012-3-6
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12
    1.0 Unknown (Tarak x Suksn) 2019-11-12

    Ellen Trout Zoo -Lufkin,Texas,USA
    1.0 Indy 00-00-00
    0.1 Saffron (Sang Dao x Tien) 2016-3-30
    1.0 Jye (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27
    0.1 Raurava (Indy x Saffron) 2018-9-27

    Cleveland´s Metroparks Zoo -Cleveland,Ohio,USA
    1.0 Ryker 00-00-00

    Nashville Zoo -Nashville,Tennessee,USA
    1.0 Kuso 2017-3-11
    0.1 River 00-00-00
    0.1 Niran (Tula x Hannibal) 2017-3-1 ( first clouded leopard cub to be born by AI)
    1.0 Ron 00-00-00
    0.1 Lom Choy 00-00-00
    1.0 Luk (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-00-00
    0.1 Tula 00-00-00
    1.0 Arun 00-00-00
    0.1 Jing Jai 00-00-00
    0.1 Baylie (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-6-9
    0.1 Kali (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2

    Tanganyika Wildlife Park -Wichita,Kansas,USA
    0.1 Moana 00-00-00
    0.1 Belle 00-00-00
    0.1 Aurora 00-00-00
    0.1 Mulan 00-00-00
    1.0 Kapok (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    1.0 Elliot 00-00-00
    0.1 Maxie 00-00-00
    1.0 Teak (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2015-5-12
    0.1 Piper 00-00-00
    0.1 Crystal 00-00-00
    0.1 Kansas 00-00-00

    Smithsonian´s Conservation Biology Institute -Front Royal,Virginia,USA
    0.1 Jao Chu 00-00-00
    1.0 Hannibal 00-00-00
    0.1 Sita (Jing Jai x Arun) 2009-5-30
    1.0 Ta Moon (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24
    1.0 Sa Ming (Jao Chu x Hannibal) 2009-3-24

    Denver Zoo -Denver,Colorado,USA
    0.1 Lisu 2011-00-00
    1.0 Taji (Chai Li x Nah Fun) 2011-6-14
    0.1 Maddie 00-00-00
    0.1 Tenchi 00-00-00

    Wildlife World Zoo,Aquarium & Safari Park -Phoenix,Arizona,USA
    0.1 Kali 00-00-00

    Toronto Zoo -Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    1.0 Mingma (Sita x Ta Moon) 2013-6-2
    0.1 Pavarti (Lom Choy x Luk) 2013-4-30

    Safari Niagara -Fort Erie,Ontario,Canada
    0.1 Levy (Mingma x Pavarti) 2017-5-13

    Heritage Park Zoo - Prescott,Arizona,USA
    0.1 Suree (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9
    0.1 Malee (Serai x Rajasi) 2015-3-9

    PD: If you know any information about them or about the existence of more clouded leopards in north america not listed here please tell me to post it. If I have any mistake please correct me.
     
  9. Jungle Man

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    Correction:Total Population 36.54 clouded leopards in North American institutions.
     
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    Good work, @Jungle Man, for all of this information. With these lists, we should have much better idea of which are breeding facilities and what the purpose of each facility's animals.

    Does anyone know any ages for cats with birthdates listed as 00-00-00? That used to be used for animals captured in the wild for whom no data was available. There have been presumably wild imports since 1976, and with a much shorter lifespans than 45 years, the birthplaces and years should be known by someone. It would really help us understand, for instance, if the Tanganika Zoo has more than the two breeding animals who produced cubs five years ago, or if their population is post-reproductive. And Safari Niagara has a lone 3-year-old there by himself! If they want a purely exhibition animal, they should have a post-reproductive specimen in Erie and send this 3-year-old where he can be matted and bred.

    If one gets an AZA membership, one gets access to all studbooks except caetaceans and elephants. Are there any other exceptions, or is the clouded leopard studbook accessable? Any good list like this raises more questions!
     
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    Getting access to the studbook (run by SSP) will not give you ALL of the cats in North America, but (I think) only those that are in AZA facilities. In my state of Arizona there are three zoos with clouded leopards and none of them are AZA accredited.
     
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    Argh. Typo:. I meant to say there have presumably been NO wild imports since 1976, so I don't understand why there are all these cats with no information. There used to be "non-AZA affiliates" in the elephant studbooks like circuses or sanctuaries that nevertheless provide information for breeding or geneology purposes. Now, I can imagine this to be more labor intensive with clouded leopards, because leopards have much shorter lifespans, but there far fewer specimens too.

    I'm curious about the relationships between the AZA and non-AZA holders. @Arizona Docent, I noticed all those cats clustered in AZ. I know you would say so if the facilities were shockingly poor, so that must not be a reason for not being AZA. Why aren't they? With no imports in 45 years, where are they getting their animals? If it's not already happened, with fewer than 100 specimens, inbreeding would seem to be a real threat. Has that happened? Do the non-AZA facilities cooperate for breeding purposes to avoid this? And why are there so many one-cat institutions, which certainly isn't conducive to breeding?

    I haven't gotten an AZA membership largely because the elephant studbooks I used to know like the back of my hand are no longer available. Maybe I'll look into this. Btw, @Jungle Man, you can get an AZA student membership at about half price, and it may provide a lot of answers (and more questions!) about US populations for your ever-curious mind!

    I know @Jungle Man discovered there is a worldwide SSP, and it's managed by SCBI (NZP). Good to know that there is some worldwide and genetic planning and probable exchange of animals. I do hope the non-AZA holders cooperate like they do in the elephant world.
     
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    I'm not familiar with the zoos AD mentioned, but the AZA's accreditation standards have been getting more stringent: several somewhat reputable, mostly smaller zoos have been denied re-accreditation in the past five years or so. AZA accreditation also costs money (both directly in dues and indirectly in meeting requirements), which can be a financial burden on smaller facilities.

    This is likely a product of past management troubles with clouded leopards. Successful mate-pairing practices weren't really cracked until the late 2000's/early 2010's. Basically, if the cats aren't paired with future mates from an early age (~6 months), the pairings rarely go well and can often result in death due to male aggression; previously bonded animals also won't re-bond with another animal later in life. Therefore, a lot of older cats are not considered behaviorally capable of breeding. Stress levels due to inadequate housing was also a factor in making male cats aggressive and reducing reproductive success.

    Here are some articles and a paper that encapsulate this development in husbandry standards:

    Clouded leopards, from crisis to success: Q&A with Janine Brown

    Significant Success in Clouded Leopard Breeding

    New Approaches Could Improve Clouded Leopard Breeding

    https://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/docs/lib...student-research/2007/6.pdf?sfvrsn=8d821638_2
     
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    I knew a bit of this from a discussion I had with Janine Brown on a rare day at SCBI. But some of the singles are as young as 3? I hope these behavioral requirements you note for breeding have not been discovered too late.

    Do the AZ, non-AZA leopard-holding facilities still share and move animals within the SSP as non-AZA affiliates? Every animal would seem to be sorely needed.

    As a note, since SCBI is only open one day a year and most of the species were not readily seen before this new safari-truck tour, I never really knew what its holdings were. I'd imagine the 3,200 acres and think there must be huge populations in Fort Royal with only the older or superfluous specimens sent to DC. I was stunned to learn recently that there are oy 26 species and 400 total animals. 400 clouded leopards and scimitar-horned oryx or Japanese giant salamanders or bison or cheetahs would be FANTASTIC, but in truth, larger numbers are birds and less-visible animals. I am glad they finally agreed to let zoogoers see the clouded leopard cubs and Japanese giant salamander instead of maintaining them for research only.
     
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    @AmbikaFan: I don't know which zoos participate in the breeding program and which don't. It remains to be seen whether the improvements in reproductive success happened soon enough; however, it is worth noting that the consortium has created a relationship between US and Southeast Asian (mostly Thai) participants and that region will likely have some number of unique founder lines.

    Also worth noting that maybe not *every* animal is sorely needed; some might be genetically overrepresented, and it's not clear how demographically sustainable the population is with its current pairings. Breeding some animals might be of limited use for the captive population.
     
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    R Lazy J Wildlife Ranch should have 1.1, born mid-2017, named Pebbles and Bam-Bam. I'm not sure where they were born or who the parents are, but as cubs they lived at Roer's Zoofari in Virginia, which is owned by the same family. They transferred many of their VA animals to AZ last year, including the clouded leopards, fishing cats, and addax. The Zoofari website still lists the species but they do not have any.
     
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    Thanks for the information @TinoPup.
    R Lazy J Wildlife Ranch
    1.0 Pebbles 00-00-00
    0.1 Bam Bam 00-00-00

    * Most of this clouded leopards in non accredited facilities are from Tanganyika Wildlife Park in Wichita,Kansas.
     
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    Columbus has a reputation for hand-raising orphaned cats. I don't think I've heard of lions, but they've become so good at this with tigers, cheetahs, and leopards that other organizations call them, often before even considering raising them on their own.
     
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    This must be the world SSP managed by a name I did not recognize at SCBI. This could be a lifesaver. It's hard to.imagine our animals not being inbred, unable to be bred for these behavioral reasons, or past breeding age. It's gratifying to see that there have been as many births as there have been in the 2010's. Seeing so many clouded leopards on a list of in these facilities is very misleading, because there's absolutely no way of maintaining this population size unless the breeding pool increases pretty significantly.
     
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    Wait a second - R Lazy J Ranch has fishing cats! :eek: Are you sure? Someone else told me yesterday they have two cheetahs as well. I definitely need to check into this. Oddly, none of this is shown on their website or Facebook.

    @AmbikaFan as for the quality of the three Arizona holders, I have been to two of them in person multiple times. Wildlife World has some decent large hoofstock yards, but most of their other exhibits range from mediocre to awful. Their animal care standards seem to be so low that I no longer visit that zoo. They lost their AZA accreditation years ago, but I should note they are ZAA accredited. Heritage Park Zoo is primarily a rescue zoo and their exhibits are very basic to say the least. Many include existing trees but it's nothing great. The clouded leopard exhibit is one of the poorer exhibits there (even with a recent expansion if you can call it that). The two best exhibits are for Mexican wolf and Canadian lynx. How they managed to get SSP clouded leopards from Miami still baffles me. R Lazy J I just discovered and have not seen, though it seems to be very basic. I believe it's a new facility (two years old maybe?).
     
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