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Owls in North America

Discussion in 'North America - General' started by Great Argus, 14 Dec 2021.

  1. Corangurilla

    Corangurilla Well-Known Member

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    Was Flaco the only Eurasian Eagle Owl at the Central Park Zoo? If so, I think we can remove Central Park as a holder for that species.
     
  2. Smaggledagle

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    The links I post have a picture of the bird in question so I am not sure where this is coming from. If you are referring to when I say it's on a facility's website, then I said already that it is on the website at the bottom of the post, what more do you want?

    You made the title "Owls (or any other species here) in North America". I'm glad you are setting some ground rules now but in the future, keep in mind that different people can interpret the title and list in a different way from yours.

    I'll keep that in mind but I have a suggestion for you. Like I won't argue about including "small places" (though you have done it in the past, just with trip reports and not someone like me fact-checking online) but if your heart is not in the right place with the lists, have you maybe consider giving someone else the research and having them do it instead of you? Not trying to sound rude, I am just asking a question.
     
  3. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Most of the Facebook links are not taking me to the post in question, just to the facility's page. I then had to scroll the photos or posts til I found the right one, which in a few cases took a bit.

    Zoo websites are not always reliable.

    I know - and as such I also have the right to edit and exclude as I see fit.

    I have had no objection to including small places in the past when they were off trip reports or particularly if there is a notable species. There is a point where a line needs to be drawn for sake of both interest and bulk.

    Two points: one, I do like doing the lists, just not when I'm getting swamped in spam that I still have to go check if I choose to include.
    Two, I don't think there's anyone qualified who would be interested in taking over, nor am I necessarily interested in moving off the projects.
     
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    I think there's an issue with social media links not working for everyone for whatever reason. For example they work just fine for me, but I have also heard people have issues with them.
     
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    Not that this has really anything to do with me but I couldn't help but point out how insulting this may be. Other than the fact that it is your list, I don't think this is an appropriate judgement, given that @Smaggledagle has made a list of holders before. "Qualified" is a word that I would probably want to avoid, too, because, if I'm not somehow mistaken, most ZooChat members here are almost entirely anonymous to others. I only say this because I really don't like how unnecessarily aggressive posts to the forum can sometimes feel, not because I want to take over daunting tasks like this. This serves as a reminder to me that I and maybe the rest of the community could try a little harder at fixing this problem.
     
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  6. Smaggledagle

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    As much as I respect you for coming out to my side :p, I don't want to cause even more of a storm. Also, I do kinda get why people like @Great Argus don't want to add random facilities with the same animals over and over again, it gets tedious to add and then check up on each facility to update them for year after year.

    Though I do agree with the aggressive posts. A lot of people here (me included) post passive-aggressive or full-on-aggressive comments on here. It's just a part of the ZooChat experience, but right now a lot of the hostility is unneeded.
     
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  7. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    It didn't, so why did you feel the need to wade into it and bring it up again?

    He wasn't offering to take it over, he was making a suggestion?

    Qualified is a very valid word I feel - the community encompasses a wide range of ages and backgrounds, and this is plenty visible without knowing everyone personally. That said, you might be surprised how many Zoochatters know each other personally and/or talk quite a bit privately both on and off site.

    Checking up and keeping up with everything is the issue, and it's more than I've got the time to do extensively. Across my threads I monitor approximately 580 species in total - many of which are frequently held bts as ambassador animals or are common in very small places. There is a point I have to draw a line, and I've drawn it at common species in tiny places.

    Ultimately there's going to be some hostility anywhere you go on the internet unfortunately, and there's no shortage of disagreement here on Zoochat either. Although too it's unnecessary to do things like responding to something you had no part in and rekindling the conversation. Equally too there's being self-aware that when you start getting a lot of pushback to consider what you're doing sooner than later. In most cases hostility is provoked, not because people are going around the forum wanting to be mean.
     
  8. RatioTile

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    Of the barn owls in North American collections, are they all Tyto furcata, or are there also imported Tyto alba? If both are present, I suspect hybridization occurred before the taxonomic split.
     
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    By and large they are American Barn Owl, however there are a few European as well. No idea on hybridization.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Tytonidae

    Tyto

    Barn Owl (63-64 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Akron?
    ASDM
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Beardsley
    Bergen County
    Birmingham
    Busch Wildlife Sanctuary
    CALM
    Cameron Park
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Carolina Raptor Center
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Catoctin
    Chehaw
    Cheyenne Mountain
    Cleveland Museum of NH
    Columbian Park
    Cosley
    Edmonton Valley
    Elmwood Park
    Folsom
    Franklin Park
    Gabbert Raptor Center
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    Hogle
    Honolulu?
    Howell Nature Center
    International Owl Center
    Keystone Safari
    Lake Superior
    Laura Quinn Wild Bird Sanctuary
    Living Treasures Laurel Highlands
    Livingston Ripley
    Lowcountry
    Maine Wildlife Park
    Marshy Point Nature Center
    Mill Mountain
    Nashville
    Oatland Island Wildlife Center
    Oklahoma City
    Orange County
    Philadelphia
    Phoenix
    Pioneers Park Nature Center
    Pittsburgh
    Point Defiance
    Randall Museum
    Reptile Gardens
    Roer’s Zoofari
    Roger Williams Park
    San Francisco
    Saskatoon Forestry Park & Zoo
    Save Our Seabirds
    The Living Desert
    Toronto?
    Tracy Aviary
    Turtle Bay Exploration Park
    Western North Carolina Nature Center
    Willowbrook Wildlife Center
    Wonders of Wildlife National Museum & Aquarium
    World Bird Sanctuary (European)
    ZooAmerica
    Zoo Knoxville


    Philodus

    Oriental Bay Owl

    Audubon (bts)
     
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    Strigidae

    Megascops

    Western Screech-Owl (10-11 holders)

    ASDM
    CALM
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Cheyenne Mountain
    El Paso
    Hogle
    Racine
    The Living Desert
    Tracy Aviary
    World Center for Birds of Prey
    Zoo Boise?

    Eastern Screech-Owl (49-50 holders)

    3 Palms
    Akron
    Animal Adventures
    Anita Purves Nature Center
    Audubon Sharon
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Bear Mountain State Park
    Bergen County
    Birmingham
    Busch Wildlife Sanctuary
    Cameron Park
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Carolina Raptor Center
    Cincinnati
    Cosley
    DWA
    Discovery Place Nature
    Ellen Trout
    Gabbert Raptor Center
    Great Plains
    Great Plains Nature Center
    Flamingo Gardens
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    Houston
    Jenkinson’s Aquarium
    Lake Superior?
    Laura Quinn Wildlife Sanctuary
    Lee Simmons
    Leesburg Animal Park
    Living Treasures
    Louisville
    Mill Mountain
    Oklahoma City
    Omaha
    Patricia and Philip Frost Museum of Science
    Pioneers Park Nature Center
    Quarry Hill Nature Center
    Sandoway Discovery Center
    Sawgrass Nature Center
    Scovill
    St. Louis
    The Zoo in Forest Park
    Tracy Aviary
    Upper Schuylkill Valley Park
    Wildwood
    Wildlife Science Center
    Willowbrook Wildlife Center
    Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Refuge
    Zoo Montana
    Zoo Tampa


    Ptilopsis

    Southern White-faced Owl (3 holders)

    Bronx
    Metro Richmond
    Sacramento


    Pulsatrix

    Spectacled Owl (27 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Bergen County
    Birmingham
    Brights
    Canadian Wildlife Park
    Carolina Raptor Center
    Dallas
    DAK
    DWA
    Edmonton Valley
    Ellen Trout
    Fort Worth
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    LA
    Lake Superior
    Metro Richmond
    Phoenix
    Safari North Wildlife Park
    San Francisco
    Sedgwick County
    St. Louis
    Tanganyika Wildlife Park
    Toronto
    Tracy Aviary
    Tulsa
    Woodland Park
    World Bird Sanctuary


    Bubo

    Great Horned Owl (90-91 holders)

    ABQ Biopark
    African Lion Safari
    Alaska
    Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center
    Alexandria
    Animal Adventures
    Aquarium of Quebec
    ASDM
    Audubon Sharon
    Austin
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Bear Creek Pioneers Park
    Bear Mountain State Park
    Beardsley
    Binder Park
    Birmingham
    BC Wildlife Park
    Bronx
    Busch Wildlife Sanctuary
    CALM
    Cameron Park
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Cape May
    Carolina Raptor Center
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Catoctin
    Claws & Paws
    Cleveland Museum of NH
    Cohanzick
    Cosley
    Dallas
    David Traylor
    Elmwood Park
    Flamingo Gardens
    Gabbert Raptor Center
    Grizzly & Wolf Discovery Center
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    Hemker
    High Desert Museum
    Hogle
    Holtsville Wildlife and Ecology Center
    Hutchinson
    Indian Creek
    International Owl Center
    Irvine Park & Zoo
    Jack R. Facente Serpentarium
    Lake Superior
    Laura Quinn Wild Bird Sanctuary
    Lee Simmons
    Leesburg Animal Park
    Living Treasures Laurel Highlands
    Lowcountry
    Maine Wildlife Park
    MacKenzie Center
    Manitowoc Lincoln Park
    Marshy Point Nature Center
    McCarthy Wildlife Center
    Minnesota
    Navajo Nation
    Oatland Island Wildlife Center
    Ochsner Park
    Oklahoma City
    Palm Beach
    Phillips Park
    Phoenix
    Pine Grove
    Prospect Park
    Queens
    Sacramento
    Salmonier Nature Park?
    Santa Barbara
    Saskatoon Forestry Park & Zoo
    Sawgrass Nature Center
    Seaside Seabird Sanctuary
    SeaWorld Orlando
    Squam Lakes Natural Science Center
    St. Louis
    Staten Island
    The Living Desert
    Toronto
    Tracy Aviary
    Turtle Back
    Upper Schuylkill Valley Park
    Western North Carolina Nature Center
    Wildlife Science Center
    Wildlife World
    Wildwood Zoo
    Wildwood Wildlife Park
    Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Refuge
    Zollman
    Zoo Montana

    Eurasian Eagle Owl (45-47 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Animal Adventure Park
    Aquarium of Quebec
    ASDM
    Barn Hill Peserve
    Birmingham
    Boulder Ridge
    Brights
    Bronx
    Busch Gardens Williamsburg
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Cape May
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Central Park?
    Cincinnati
    Claws & Paws
    Dallas
    DAK
    Edmonton Valley
    Greenville
    Gulf Breeze
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    International Owl Center
    Jacksonville?
    LA
    Lake Superior
    Living Treasures Moraine
    Luray
    Milwaukee
    Minnesota
    Natural Bridge
    Omaha
    Riverbanks
    Rosamond Gifford
    Roscommon
    Safari North Wildlife Park
    San Diego
    San Francisco
    Shell Factory & Nature Park
    Sylvan Heights Bird Park
    Tanganyika Wildlife Park
    The Wild Animal Park
    Toronto
    Virginia Safari Park
    Wildlife World
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zoo Knoxville

    Spotted Eagle Owl (1 holder)

    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center

    Pharaoh Eagle Owl (1 holder)

    Woodland Park

    Verreaux’s Eagle Owl (Milky Eagle Owl) (12 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Cincinnati
    Dallas
    DAK
    Fort Worth
    Jacksonville
    Oregon
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    Tracy Aviary
    Wildlife World
    World Center for Birds of Prey
    Zoo Atlanta

    Snowy Owl (31-33 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Alaska
    Assiniboine Park
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Bergen County
    Big Bear Alpine
    Bronx
    Brookfield?
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Dodge Nature Center
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    Howell Nature Center
    Indian Creek
    John Ball
    Lehigh Valley
    Lincoln Park
    Louisville
    Maryland
    Minnesota
    NEW
    Rockton
    Roger Williams Park
    Salmonier Nature Park?
    Seneca Park
    Staten Island
    The Zoo in Forest Park
    Toledo
    Trevor
    Tulsa
    Woodland Park
    Zollman
    ZooAmerica


    Athene

    Burrowing Owl (46 holders)

    ABQ Biopark
    ASDM
    Assiniboine Park
    Boonshoft Museum of Discovery
    Brandywine
    BC Wildlife Park
    Bronx
    Busch Wildlife Sanctuary
    CALM
    Calgary
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Charles Paddock
    DWA
    Edmonton Valley
    Elmwood Park
    Flamingo Gardens
    High Desert Museum
    Hogle
    Houston
    Hutchinson
    Lake Superior
    Living Coast Discovery Center
    Knoxville
    Memphis
    National?
    National Aviary
    NEW
    North Carolina
    Oklahoma City
    Omaha
    Phoenix
    Queens
    Sacramento
    Salisbury
    San Antonio
    San Diego
    San Diego Zoo Safari Park
    San Francisco
    Saskatoon Forestry Park & Zoo
    Sawgrass Nature Center
    St. Louis
    Sylvan Heights Bird Park
    The Living Desert
    Tracy Aviary
    ZooAmerica
    Zoo Miami


    Ciccaba

    Chaco Owl

    African Lion Safari
    Carolina Raptor Center


    Strix

    Spotted Owl (4 holders)

    Mountain View Conservation & Breeding Center
    Northwest Trek
    Sequoia Park
    Wildlife Center of NM

    Barred Owl (75-76 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Alexandria
    Animal Adventures
    Aquarium of the Americas
    Audubon Sharon
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Bear Creek Pioneer’s Park
    Bear Mountain State Park
    Beardsley
    Binder Park
    Birmingham
    BC Wildlife Park
    Busch Wildlife Sanctuary
    Calgary
    Cameron Park
    Cape May
    Carolina Raptor Center
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Catoctin
    Cincinnati
    Cleveland Museum of NH
    Conservancy of Southwest Florida
    David Traylor
    Dodge Nature Center
    Edmonton Valley
    Elmwood Park
    Flamingo Gardens
    Gabbert Raptor Center
    Greenville
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    High Desert Museum
    Holtsville Wildlife & Ecology Center
    Howell Nature Center
    Hutchinson
    Indian Creek
    Irvine Park & Zoo
    Jack R. Facente Serpentarium
    Laura Quinn Wild Bird Sanctuary
    Lee Simmons
    Lehigh Valley
    Long Island Aquarium
    Lowcountry
    Luray
    MacKensie Center
    Maine Wildlife Park
    Marshy Point Nature Center
    McCarthy Wildlife Sanctuary
    National Aviary
    North Carolina
    Oatland Island Wildlife Center
    Ochsner Park
    Palm Beach
    Plumpton Park
    Popcorn Park
    Rosamond Gifford
    Saginaw Children’s Zoo
    Santa Fe Teaching Zoo
    Save Our Seabirds
    Sawgrass Nature Center
    Shedd Aquarium
    Squam Lakes Natural Science Center
    St. Louis
    The Zoo in Forest Park
    Toronto?
    Tracy Aviary
    Turtle Bay Exploration Park
    Upper Schuylkill Valley Park
    Westwood Hills Nature Center
    Wildlife Science Center
    Wildwood Wildlife Park
    Willowbrook Wildlife Center
    Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Refuge
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zollman
    ZooAmerica
    Zoo Tampa

    Tawny Owl (3 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    World Bird Sanctuary

    Ural Owl (2 holders)

    African Lion Safari
    World Bird Sanctuary

    Great Gray Owl (4-5 holders)

    Alaska
    BC Wildlife Park
    Calgary
    Canadian Raptor Conservancy
    Woodland Park?


    Glaucidium

    Ferruginous Pygmy-Owl (1 holder)

    Phoenix


    Asio

    Long-eared Owl (4 holders)

    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    BC Wildlife Park
    Tracy Aviary
    ZooAmerica

    Short-eared Owl (4 holders)

    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Lee Simmons
    Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Refuge
    World Bird Sanctuary


    Surnia

    Northern Hawk-Owl (1 holder)

    World Bird Sanctuary


    Aegolius

    Northern Saw-whet Owl (9-10 holders)

    Audubon Sharon
    Bay Beach Wildlife Sanctuary
    Cascades Raptor Center
    Gabbert Raptor Center
    Grizzly & Wolf Discovery Center
    Hawk Creek Wildlife Center
    Quarry Hill Nature Center
    Woodland Park?
    World Bird Sanctuary
    Zollmann


    Ninox

    Boobook sp

    African Lion Safari
     
  12. birdsandbats

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    Ochsner Park keeps Snowy Owl.

    Ba Beach no longer keeps Long-eared Owl.

    Any idea which facilities keep New World Barn Owls and which keep the Old World ones?
     
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    Far as I'm aware the majority of them hold American - World Bird Sanctuary holds European, and there are likely a few others. There are some older indications of European birds at a couple places, but I am not sure of any other European holders at present though.
    Cornell has yet to separate the Barn Owls out, but I anticipate a split as the IUCN status is missing per typical pending fashion. If anyone has information re European Barn Owls being kept here please share, it would be helpful in sorting out the split for the thread.
     
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    Add: Lehigh Valley Zoo and Six Flags Wild Safari.
    Add: Peace River Wildlife Center, Lehigh Valley Zoo, and Smithsonian National Zoo
    Add: Peace River Wildlife Center and ZooTampa
    Add: Peace River Wildlife Center
    Add: Peace River Wildlife Center and Smithsonian National Zoo
    Remove: ZooAmerica
    Remove: Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Refuge
     
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    Wish I'd gotten to posting the species list last week so you could include it in your updates: Living Coast Discovery Center (San Diego) also has Barn Owl, Long-eared Owl, Great Horned Owl, and Western Screech-owl.

    There's at least one small nature center in SoCal that has Long-eared Owl also (Placerita Canyon); up to you whether to include it or not, it's a very small place but since few facilities display LEO it could be worth listing?
     
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    Also Stone Zoo and Utica Zoo.
    Also Boston Museum of Science and Franklin Park Zoo.
    Also Prospect Park Zoo.
    Also Southwicks Zoo and Animal Adventures.
    Also Natural Encounters, Inc. if you want to count it, temporarily at Roger Williams Park Zoo.
    Unfortunately no longer kept at Roger Williams Park Zoo.

    I'd also just like to end this post by giving a HUGE thank you to @Great Argus for compiling so many great lists documenting the status of birds in North American zoos! Your work is greatly appreciated.
     
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    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    You're welcome, I'm glad you appreciate them! :)
    Likewise thanks to everyone who contributes to the threads, it's a massive help to keeping these lists rolling!
     
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    Aviarius in Costa Maya/Mahahual Mexico holds them.
     
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    CuriOdyssey (AZA) holds Barn and Great Grey.