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Perth Zoo Perth Orangs- Puan and HsingHsing.

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Pertinax, 2 May 2007.

  1. Pertinax

    Pertinax Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I can find an answer here- anyone know if Puan or Hsing Hsing, the Orangutans at Perth are still alive? If not, how long ago did either die?

    Whether she's still alive or not,Puan must have achieved a longevity record for the Australasian region.
     
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    Hi there. Yep, Puan and Hsing are still alive and kicking. Not sure how old Puan is - 40-something, I think. I'll check the ARKS records tomorrow to confirm.

    Hsing is diabetic; his blood glucose levels have dropped considerably since he was moved into one of the new enclosures. I was watching him Wookie-ing his way across the ropes this morning to get to his browse. It was raining and he had a sack on his head to keep the rain out. He shares his enclosure with Utama, the half-sister of Temara who recently went to Sumatra.
     
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    Many thanks for that info. Really pleased to know Puan is still alive- one of her sons-Puloh- is the breeding male at Chester here in UK. She must be late forties by now I reckon. Someone from Singapore was asking about Hsing so I'll try and pass that on too.
     
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    Hello again. I've checked the records and Puan was born in 1953, making her 54 years old. When I was Publications Officer here a couple of years ago, I did a story on Where Are They Now? and featured Puluh. By 2005 he had fathered four young 'uns and had escaped in 2003 by climbing up onto the roof.
     
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    Thanks for the update! Glad to know Hsing is still alive despite his diabetes. His mom is somewhat of an institution here in Singapore.
     
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    pamelas, what is your opinion of perth zoo's orangutan exhibit? i visited the zoo twice last year in july, and even though the exhibit still isnt finished and isnt yet as much an immersion experience i think it works really well, from both the animals and visitors perspective. however, i understand the design has met with alot of criticism and id be intereste din what you think about it :)
     
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    That's a very impressive age to reach, and she's obviously still going strong. Our oldest Orangutan in UK is 'Bulu' (Bornean) aged 46, she was born at London Zoo in 1961 and is now living at Paignton.

    Puloh at Chester finally acquired his 'padded face' a couple of years ago- Sumatrans seem to take anything up to 18 years to become fully mature. He and his family should make a good display in the new building.
     
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    Is Hsing Hsing's mother 'Ah Meh' by any chance? She must be getting on in years too...
     
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    Yup Hsing Hsing is the first born of "Ah Meng". She'll be turning 47 this June.
     
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    Zooish Yes, Sorry, Ah Meng, not Ah Meh. I have some postcards of her somewhere. 47 is a very good age too, presumably she is the oldest Orqangutan at Singapore?. How many young does she have in total? And do you nowadays keep your Bornean and Sumatran Orangs in seperate groupings- I think they used all to be all mixed together in the past.
     
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    melbourne has a gorilla, i think its betsy, that must be particuarly old by now.
    from emeory she had her last baby in her 40's (no small feat by any account) and that was quite some time ago!!

    i know chimps can live to be very old. anyone know how old the oldest orang in captivity made it to?
     
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    Indeed, she's the oldest. She has had 5 young, 2 males and 3 females. Her youngest is a male who will be turning 9 years old this December.

    Unfortunately, her second born, a female, is a hybrid. She actually mated with a Bornean male through the bars of their adjoining cages!

    Now the Borneans and Sumatrans are seperated and no more interbreeding is allowed. But the juveniles which have yet reach sexual maturity are still mixed together in a large playgroup.
     
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    Betsi at Melbourne is Australia's oldest gorilla by far.. She is listed in the World's top 50 oldest gorillas -where she shares fifth place along with five others all born in the same year(1959) which makes her/them all 48 years old.

    For the record the world's oldest is female Jenny at Dallas Zoo,USA(aged 54)
    oldest male currently is 'Matz' at the FRankfurt Germany(aged 50 now).

    Betsi's daughter (Bambuti + another name) is about twelve years old- lives at Jersey UK but hasn't produced offspring yet. Betsi's son Buzandi (a real beauty of a male) is at Hanover, Germany and has several children there.

    Orangutans- there's a male Sumatran 'Major' at a zoo in France who is in his very late forties(or even older), and fathered yet another baby in March this year. I'll try and research the World's oldest Orangutans, but I know that Puan at Perth is by far the oldest in your region. :)
     
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    I still haven't found another Orangutan anywhere worldwide that is older than Perth's Puan. Perth also had another female 'Mawar' who died about 1997 and that one may have been as old as 56. So Puan has only a couple of years to go and she could beat that... Anyone know of an older Orangutan anywhere?:)
     
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    Mawas was a Bornean who was born in January 1941. When she died in Dec. 1997, she was almost 57.
     
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    Yes, I found Mawas in the Studbook... listed as born 1941, and died in 1997.

    I think that could be some sort of World longevity record.
     
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    Current Orangutans at Perth Zoo

    Could you list for me the Orangutans currently at Perth? I'm particularly interested in any young born in the last few years and fathered by Hsing Hsing(if there are any)

    Since newer accomodation was built, are the Orangs now kept together, in small group combinations or what? Is this a completely new development or an upgrade on their old enclosures?

    Many thanks.
     
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    when i visited in 2006, most of the colony was displayed seperately. there were some young animals together for socialisation purposes; there was a lot of information displayed about this. the exhibits are i believe, some new, some refurbished on the site of existing exhibits.
    the original moats and fronts of the exhibits remain, but the side and back walls are not mad eof corrugated metal sheeting. the 'controversial' trees are new. in terms of landscaping its only really turf, but the animals were so active and climbing it really didnt bother me about what was happening at ground level. these are canopy animals, and this exhibit showcased their climbing skills to the max.
    on the visitor's sid eof the fence was new signage and a new viewing platform. further upgrades of the interpretation, more landscaping, an aerial boardwalk are planned, with details on the 2020 document.