Join our zoo community

photos of Pyongyang Zoo - North Korea

Discussion in 'Asia - General' started by vogelcommando, 9 Mar 2017.

  1. FunkyGibbon

    FunkyGibbon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11 Jan 2015
    Posts:
    4,293
    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    I just did a little 'binging' (#china), and I'm surprised to find that tours usually cost in the region of $200 dollars a day. That's a lot more affordable than I was expecting, although I'd still rather spend a month in Vietnam than five days there.

    It does seem to me that Chli is being a little harsh here. All of the secret footage I've seen of regular tour groups indicates that it is at times a very uncomfortable experience.
     
    d1am0ndback likes this.
  2. JVM

    JVM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1 Nov 2013
    Posts:
    371
    Location:
    United States
    I thought d1am0ndback was pretty diplomatic and fair in expressing that they personally felt unsafe visiting Pyongang, without having initially gone out of their way to attack North Korea as a government or its people. They yielded that "not many" Americans have been detained, just enough to make them uncomfortable - which is more credit than a great number of Americans would probably give when discussing North Korea.

    I think there's a difference between being personally uncomfortable with visiting a particular country and attacking its government or its people. There are countries I am not sure I would be comfortable in where I think the people, culture and government are fine - but just not a good fit for me as an individual.
     
    d1am0ndback likes this.
  3. Coelacanth18

    Coelacanth18 Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    23 Feb 2015
    Posts:
    1,968
    Location:
    United States
    I'm in agreement with FunkyGibbon and JVM. As an American who has been out of the country (although not to Asia), I would not be comfortable visiting that particular country either. To what extent my view of North Korea is biased by the media I can't say, but they have held and imprisoned American citizens enough times and the anti-American sentiment seems strong enough there that it's enough to dissuade me from seriously considering it. Same concerns for other countries such as Iran. There's also nothing there that I feel strongly enough about seeing to pull me to it, other than the value of experiencing North Korea as a whole.

    Chli does have a point about the US doing very similar things to foreigners here; however, my concern does not stem from the fact that it happens in the DPRK at all, but from the fact that Americans are more likely to be targeted.
     
  4. Chlidonias

    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    13 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    23,914
    Location:
    not travelling
    this is sort of veering away into "how Americans view the world" which is right off-topic from the zoo. I'll just say that I personally would have no problems visiting North Korea in terms of my safety, although I have no wish or plans to do so. If other people feel differently for themselves, then that is fine. That's how the world is.
     
  5. animalszoos

    animalszoos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    29 Feb 2016
    Posts:
    337
    Location:
    U.K.
    I think it was a Swedish person that brought most of the animals to that newly renovated Pyongyang zoo.
    I don't think the zoo is that bad either, because of the Swedish person, they have stopped the smoking chimpanzee attraction and the enclosures just lack some vegetation and climbing structures.
     
    Last edited: 19 Mar 2017
    d1am0ndback likes this.
  6. birdsandbats

    birdsandbats Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    17 Sep 2017
    Posts:
    5,022
    Location:
    Wisconsin
  7. FunkyGibbon

    FunkyGibbon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11 Jan 2015
    Posts:
    4,293
    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    sooty mangabey likes this.