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  1. Great Argus

    Great Argus Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Such as what species? You've piqued my curiosity!
     
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    Takin. 4 Founders total, all right when the population was founded.
     
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    Wait but then how do we have multiple subspecies represented?
     
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    Er, Sichuan Takin, specifically.
     
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    Mishmi Takin is even worse, as all animals in the western hemisphere are descended from 3 animals :p and Golden Takin also from 3 animals AFAIK.
     
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    The Takins I had no idea! I was thinking the initial founders for babirusa, Slender-Horned Gazelle, and Dhole, all of which I think had five or less founders at the beginning.

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  7. John Marchwick

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    Well the platypus are now still their I believe
     
  9. John Marchwick

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    ya there there permanently. The park has full ownership of them unlike with the giant pandas that were at San Diego zoo
     
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    This isn't the plan I thought they were pursuing. Even when Nola was alive and on an episode of The Zoo, it was explained that they intended to initially do IVF on southern whites with southern white eggs and sperm, and if they carried successfully, they would use eggs recreated through DNA of the last remaining black rhinos and, I think, frozen black rhino sperm to do IVF implanted in the white rhino carriers. How does retrieving white rhino eggs fit into this plan?
     
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    I think you meant northern white instead of the black! Right now what is in the quote is even more technically challenging in genetic engineering then in 2 closely related taxa in the same genus!
     
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    I believe the plan is to take southern white rhino eggs (the cell not the DNA) and use DNA from preserved northern white rhino material to basically clone a northern white rhino baby. It would still be IVF. I believe they are still pretty far off from actually getting a baby northern white rhino on the ground and this procedure may just be in preparation for future procedures leading towards that goal. I’m sure you miss typed but black rhinos are not a part of the plan at all.
     
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    My memory..ugh. You have caught me with this slip twice now. :eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:o_O But the SP did show the initial trials of southern carriers of IVF southern rhinos, saying that if certain females reliably produced calves from both the IVF and in pregnancy, then and only then would they start using the extremely valuable--and limited--genetic materials from northern whites to be carried in surrogate southern whites. I think EchoBeast's explanation of using the southern white egg but the northern white DNA is the procedure I first heard about in 2015 while at the SDSP.
     
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    An male Indian rhino was born to mom Asha at the safari park

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    Not anything news wise but a question I have. Does anyone know if J Gregory, a southern white rhino, is still able to breed even though he’s had no offspring. He’s 24 to 25 years old I believe
     
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    J Gregory sired "Future" born to Amani in 2019 via artificial insemination.

    Southern White Rhino Calf "Future" at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park