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  1. DesertRhino150

    DesertRhino150 Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    This news has been linked elsewhere on the forum, but it is again relevant to this project so I will repost here as well:

    The Fernandina giant tortoise has been rediscovered in a remote corner of Fernandina 113 years after the type specimen was found. The female tortoise has been caught and moved to Santa Cruz, where it is living in a specially-constructed pen at a giant tortoise breeding centre.

    The link to this news is included below:
    Giant tortoise believed extinct for 100 years found in Galápagos
     
  2. birdsandbats

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Honesty I thought that was one of the less likely ones.
     
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    carl the birder Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    crasy thing is the same man who go a zanzibar leopard on film
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Wallace's Giant Bee was found as well.
     
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    ThylacineAlive Well-Known Member 10+ year member

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    Well that's awkward for all the posts on the first page heavily criticizing this effort :p

    ~Thylo
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    What do you guys think of the supposed Wondiwoi Tree Kangaroo seen back in September? Apparentley the guy who described the Dingiso thinks it really is one.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    Not necessarily. Just because a small tortoise is found on one island doesn't cancel out the possibility that it is actually from one of the other islands, either through human or natural means. I'm not saying it isn't the "extinct" species of course, and I certainly hope that it is, but ideally I'd want to see some genetic confirmation.
     
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    Chlidonias Moderator Staff Member 15+ year member

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    There isn't really any doubt that it is that (sub)species.
     
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    Pertinax Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Presumably they will be able to DNA test this newly discovered one to see if its a genuine species or a hybrid as you suggest.
     
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    Fingers and toes firmly crossed. Hopefully they find some more, too.

    It's been a good couple of years for rediscoveries it seems.

    ~Thylo
     
  11. Kakapo

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    I can't access to the link of the first post... so I don't know what are these 25 species. Is the Chinese paddlefish included? It should be, if not...
     
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    birdsandbats Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Here is the list. I have put an * after the species that have been found:

    Jackson's Climbing Salamander*
    Wallace's Giant Bee*
    Fernandina Giant Tortoise*
    Wondiwoi Tree Kangaroo*
    Pondicherry Shark
    Attenborough's Long-Beacked Echidna
    Pink-Headed Duck
    Namdapha Flying Squirrel
    Wellington's Solitary Coral
    Ilin Island Cloundrunner
    De Winton's Golden Mole
    New Zealand Greater Short-Tailed Bat
    Sierra Leone Crab
    Scarlet Harlequin Frog
    Himalayan Quail
    Velvet Pitcher Plant
    Voeltzkow's Chameleon (why?)
    Omiltemi Cottontail
    Bullneck Seahorse
    Syr Darys Shovelnose Sturgeon
    Somali Sengi
    Sinu Parakeet
    Miss Waldron's Red Colobus
    Zug's Monitor
    Silver-Backed Chevrotain
     
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    Mehdi Well-Known Member 5+ year member

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    Why not?
     
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    I thought that it was considered conspecific with Furcifer rhinoceratus, but it looks like that changed last year.
     
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    Thanks a lot for this list! Sadly my beloved Chinese paddlefish is not in it :-( there is a shovelnose sturgeon but is not the same...
     
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    A secondary goal of the expedition is to also try and find chameleons Brookesia dentata and Chamaeleon grandidieri, which are native to the same region.

    ~Thylo
     
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    I think it's great that (possibly, if not probably) four of the twenty five species on the list have been rediscovered so far, and within the last year-and-a-half, too. Of course, further genetic testing is needed to confirm the tortoise's identity, but the salamander and bee are definite, and the kangaroo photographed is almost certainly the wondiwoi tree kangaroo.

    Personally speaking, I'm optimistic that most of these species will be found alive. And this list doesn't even include some other notable rediscoveries in recent times, like the San Quintin kangaroo rat. And some of those species are fairly big animals, like the metre-long Namdapha flying squirrel.

    I do wonder if, like the Top 10 Lost Frogs list, they will replace rediscovered species with new species that have yet to be rediscovered?
     
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    While certainly not a confirmation, that is excellent new indeed that gives some hope. I can see clouded leopards being more likely to evade detection than other big cats given their more arboreal nature. Combined with the terrain of much of Taiwan, and I can certainly see a small population clinging on.
     
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  20. TeaLovingDave

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    Of course, a lot rests on whether the findings by the recent felid taxonomic reassessment that indicated Formosan Clouded Leopard represented an introduced population of nominate and was genetically identical to said are valid :p
     
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