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the largest collection of lemurs in Europe

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  1. KEEPER

    KEEPER Well-Known Member 15+ year member

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    Hello everyone!

    I open this thread because I cannot find information about this topic, and I 'm curious ... Can anyone give me information on the zoo where they have the greatest number of species of lemurs in Europe? (number and species name, if possible)

    Thank you very much in advance!
     
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  2. Zebraduiker

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    Mulhouse Zoo in France has a great collection of lemurs, I don't know, if is it the biggest, but one of them, with a lot of rare species, I've visted the zoo 10 days ago.

    Sorry, I don't know the english names for all the lemurs of that zoo, but I'm pretty sure, somebody here can help you.
     
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    ^^
    Thanks Zebraduiker,I found information about this collection,in a French Forum and they says "8 species for Mulhouse" Bioparc Valencia have 7, any more?
     
  4. IceQueen

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    Mulhouse has:
    Red ruffed lemurs
    Black & white ruffed lemurs
    Crowned lemurs
    Redbellied lemurs
    Black lemurs
    Mongoose lemurs
    White-collared brown lemur
    Alaotran gentle lemur
    Verreauxs sifaka

    I can't remember seeing a larger collection, but maybe someone else can?
     
  5. Zebraduiker

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    Cologne in germany had once one of the biggest and finest collection of lemurs in europe, but most of them are gone now, just a few species left...What about Apenheul in the Netherlands ?
     
  6. Tim May

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    Vincennes (Paris) also once had a great lemur collection of rarely seen lemurs.

    It was the first zoo where I saw aye-aye, sifaka, Coquerels’s mouse lemur and bamboo lemur.

    It is still the only zoo where I have ever seen fork-marked lemur (Phaner furcifer) and sportive lemur (Lepilemur).
     
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    Banham Zoo have 7 lemur species
     
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    Not in the running for the most but we do have 6 here in Jersey :D

    Aye Aye,
    red ruffed lemur,
    black and white ruffed lemur,
    alaotran gentle lemur,
    ringtailed lemurs,
    and red fronted brown lemurs,

    :D
     
  9. Panthera Puss

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    7 for IOW Zoo

    Ringtail 7
    Red Ruffed 2
    Black & White Ruffed 3
    White Fronted Brown 2 (inc. one from Cologne b 1982)
    Mongoose 6?
    Black 2
    Grey Mouse 2
     
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    9 for Plzen
    Lac Alaotra bamboo lemur
    Fat-tailed dwarf lemur (= Lesser dwarf lemur)
    Gray mouse-lemur
    Ring-tailed lemur
    Black lemur
    Red ruffed lemur
    Red-fronted lemur
    Common brown lemur
    Black and white ruffed lemur

    only 8 for Ostrava
    Ring-tailed lemur
    Crowned lemur
    Black lemur
    Red-bellied lemur
    Red ruffed lemur
    Black and white ruffed lemur
    Sclater's black lemur
    White-fronted lemur
     
  11. Maguari

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    Cotswold - 10:

    Ring-tailed
    Collared
    Black
    Mongoose
    Red-bellied
    Broad-nosed Gentle
    Black-and-White Ruffed
    Grey Mouse
    Crowned Sifaka
    Alaotran Gentle


    Actually matches Mulhouse, number-of-species-wise, on 9. EDIT: Actually, 10! Missed off Alaotran - anyone beat 10?
     
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  12. Zambar

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    That's an amazing number of species compared to the two I saw on my first visit! Where are the Mongoose, Red-Bellied, Broad-Nosed Gentle and Grey Mouse Lemurs, as I don't remember these species as being part of the 'Madagascar' Exhibit.
     
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    Broad-nosed Gentles are in the back yard behind the Walled Garden - directly opposite the Yellow Mongooses. Mongoose Lemurs are in the Walled Garden - by the weaver aviary (where the Alaotrans were kept for a while before moving to 'Madagascar'. The Grey Mouse Lemur(s?) is mixed with Malagasy Jumping Rat in the old weaver aviary opposite the exit to the main Madagascar enclosure.

    Might be the lateness of the hour but I can't for the life of me recall exactly where the Red-bellies are - around the Walled Garden/Madagascar area somewhere, I think.
     
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    7:
    crowned sifaka
    ringtailed lemurs
    red ruffed lemurs
    black & white ruffed lemurs
    red bellied lemurs
    alaotra gentle lemurs
    black lemurs
     
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    Just a small point, but several 'species' mentioned are only subspecies (depending on your taxonomy). Ruffed lemurs are usually considered one species as are the brown lemurs (collared, white-fronts etc). Blacks and Slater's are also usually the same species.
     
  17. Tim May

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    Actually recent taxonomic reviews have resulted in most of these forms now being considered distinct species.

    In his book Primate Taxonomy (2001) Colin Groves considers that red ruffed lemurs and black & white ruffed lemurs are, indeed, two distinct species.

    Similarly, Groves considers that brown lemurs, white-collared collared lemurs and white fronted-lemurs are all different species.

    This view is also supported by Mammal Species of the World: A Taxonomic and Geographic Reference (Wilson & Reeder).
     
  18. Otocolobus

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    Another UK zoo with an excellent lemur collection is the South Lakes Wild Animal Park. It's a year or two since I have visited but the public were able not only to walk amongst the lemurs but also to feed them at a designated time during the Summer months (with individual fruit items provided by the zoo) - this was quite an experience!

    Lemurs on exhibit included:
    Alaotran gentle lemurs
    Belted ruffed lemurs
    Black and white ruffed lemurs
    Red ruffed lemurs
    Black lemurs
    White-fronted brown lemurs
    Ring-tailed lemurs
    Mongoose lemurs
     
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    They are different species if following the phylogenetic species concept that C. Groves follows. Some think this is right but others prefer the more traditional biological species concept where the status as separate species is more questionable. Using the primate chapter in 'Mammal Species of the World: A Taxonomic and Geographic Reference' as independent support of the views of C. Groves is problematic because he wrote the chapter. Like saying C. Groves supports the views of C. Groves.
     
  20. Maguari

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    Having visited Cotswold on Saturday, I have to unfortunately report that the park no longer has Black and White Ruffed Lemurs or Grey Mouse Lemurs (speaking to the keepers it seems the former were disposed of for troublemaking in the walkthrough and the latter have died). The park is therefore down to 8 lemur species:

    Alaotran Gentle
    Broad-nosed Gentle
    Crowned Sifaka
    Ring-tailed
    Collared
    Mongoose
    Red-bellied
    Black


    ...which I think puts Mulhouse back into the lead on 9.